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Les Tonks Sidestep

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#3090031 Leigh sunday

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 16 March 2015 - 08:03 PM

Batley aren't full time and neither are Whitehaven. Check their results from yesterday and especially Batley's performance.


But, Batley didn't win and they got the same number of league points as did Fev from their fixture with Bradford. Pushing the top teams (ie Bradford and Leigh) close gets you nothing. To finish in the top 4 (realistically 3rd or 4th) you need to be beating the other contenders. So far Batley have played 2 of the other likely contenders for those positions, namely Sheffield and Halifax, and lost both. Games like yesterday's are Kear's forte, but it's the bread and butter stuff that will really count for 3rd and 4th.

#3089627 Leigh sunday

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 16 March 2015 - 09:29 AM

The only problem I had with the ref yesterday was him allowing tackled players to move forward as they got up/played the ball forcing the markers to touch them to gain a penalty - St Helens used to be experts at this tactic. Having said that, our discipline, again, at times was terrible and the markers totally ineffective (as they were many times at Fax too). But, all is not lost, we only need another halfback (assuming we can get Moore fit, otherwise 2), another centre, a second rower who can break a tackle and a big rampaging prop and we'll be fine for the top 4 (but no DRs please!). Oh, and a few attacking moves wouldn't come amiss.........

#3082108 fev -v- Oldham 2007

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 03 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

After a bit of digging, I've found this match report: http://www.yorkshire...am-18-1-2461204

#3082024 fev -v- Oldham 2007

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 03 March 2015 - 11:24 AM

From memory when Tony got sent off that day it involved a fight with Gavin Swinson (also dismissed) and few others in front of the family stand near the half way line, must admit I was glad when he joined the Rovers he turned out to be a cracking signing for the few seasons he was with us.


Swinson was only sinbinned for providing the best 'play' of the match in winding Tonks up enough to thump him.

#3080816 DR YES OR NO

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 01 March 2015 - 12:26 PM

Everyone is saying the same thing "No" but if we need to finish 4th as we know we do then we must play on a level playing field. To me it's all in or all out. If AH thinks it strengthens us and we can then we should. The lost issue here is development as it doesn't encourage youth investment and dare I say it makes us a feeder club. In summary no but if others do then so should we - if it gets us 4th


So why have we signed so many players on? If they're not good enough they should be shipped out with whoever signed them on in the first place following close behind.

#3077647 The squad numbers are out, and so is the betting...

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 February 2015 - 08:16 PM


500-1 Paul Wood (though someone somewhere will probably find a way to spell his name wrong too)


C'mon, you're all just messing with me now...check out today's man of the match thread and four different people have added an S to Wood's surname!



You'd never make a Bookie :tongue: Still offering those odds after the rank outsider had already cantered in 3 times after the Hunslet game.....

#3075834 Doncaster v Featherstone match thread.

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 21 February 2015 - 11:13 AM

This season isn't about sentiment.... it's about that middle 8. Nowt less.


So why the h3ll have we signed so many forwards? If they're not good enough they shouldn't have been signed. Gives me no confidence at all in the judgement of whoever is agreeing to sign players on. Bringing in 2 new players who haven't trained with the rest of the squad, don't know the plays..... well that's really going to help. Far too early to be panicing as it would appear we are (again).


Seems you've also done a u-turn on this season being one of consolidation ;)

#3059763 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 05:59 PM

So Cas should be promoting their brand in that area and if successful, presumably they will be on a par with Warrington catchment
area wise.


Clearly you don't know much about the area if you mean Ponte, South Elmsall, Knottingley etc as Cas are already targetting there, and have been for years, just as are Featherstone and Wakefield. There's no way any of the 3 could claim these places as an exclusive catchment area. As others have pointed out there's a lot of affinity for the area's other teams (and now even Leeds due to the house buiding that has taken place over the last 15 years or so) in these towns which would not only take years to change but also require the other 2 teams to disappear. Even if folk don't actually attend PO Rd or Belle Vue they'd be even less likely to go to Cas. Further afield in the Selby District they face competition from Leeds, Doncaster, York and the 2 Hull clubs for (potential) supporters.


As l'ange has said, the combined support for the 3 Wakefield District clubs is pretty abysmal for a so called hot bed of the game, although to be fair, it's the same story for most of the 'heartlands'. The sad reality is that in the UK RL isn't anywhere near as big, or important, as many on here seem to think it is.

#3059580 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 10:59 AM

Ponte is in the immediate vicinity, it's stuck on to Cas at junction 32. Selby and eastwards from there are the way to go locally, but they and all other clubs should be working on broadening their demographic as well.


Problem is that although the Selby District has a population of about 80k it is spread quite thinly making targetting potential attendees difficult and, more importantly, costly. The population of Selby itself (ca20k) isn't much bigger than that of Featherstone (ca15k), with the next biggest urban areas of Tadcaster and Sherburn having pops of about 6k each. Tadcaster and Sherburn are much more likely to be attracted to Leeds and I also suspect the east of the district is probably more inclined to lean towards 'Hull' rather than any of the 'Wakefield' clubs. To match the population of Warrington (200k+) you need to combine the populations of Ponte (30k), Cas (40k), Hemsworth (13k), Featherstone (15k), South Elmsall (13k), South Kirkby/Moorthorpe (7k) and the whole of the Selby District. In reality the only one of the 'Wakefield' clubs with the real potential to become huge is Wakefield, and they are in deperate need of a new ground to have any chance of doing so. Unless, of course, the 3 unite to form a 'super club' but there's more chance of me winning the lottery 2 draws on the trot than that happening.

#3057420 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 19 January 2015 - 10:40 AM

That's one thing that's a bit weird. The 10k capacity of the new stadium will be less than the current capacity (before the wall collapsed) of Wheldon Road.

A lot of these new stadiums are designed to be able to increase the capacity at a future date though.

Anyway, I know of two households on Park Road and Stainburn Avenue who are strongly against the development. Has the process gone beyond where they consider the objections of local residents? I have no idea.



good point.

We've seen that figure surpassed by cas during the SL era.

But more importantly to me there has to be growth built in to a plan for the future. On top of this the stadium needs to be multi use and be able to stage other major events.


There's very little detail regarding the stadium  - the only comments I've seen are the capacity and the description 'community'. Definitely no mention of whether it can be expanded or not and (lack of) parking is a massive negative for planning, match day and potential other use. I'd also wager there'll be quite a few more residents on the Pontefract side of the M62 who'll be objecting when they realise that their streets will become car parks on match days too.


In reality the stadium really is only a sweetener from the developers and is more than likely to be built as cheaply as possible - no doubt the developers have set aside a figure they will spend. IF it does come to fruition, CTRLFC may regret going down this particular route in the longer term

#3054196 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 10 January 2015 - 01:46 PM

Not sure why anyone would gloat about this - 'there but for the grace of God' and all that. And, thank goodness it wasn't tomorrow with lots of folk about.

#3030594 keegan hirst

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 10 November 2014 - 10:00 AM

Good luck Keegan. Don't think your contribution was appreciated as much as it should've been.

#2989234 Fax boss Harrison slams “amateurish” performance

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 05 September 2014 - 08:36 PM

I wouldn't mind him at Fev. ....


Really? He's taken Halifax from being one of the most exciting and entertaining teams in the Championship to a dour 5 drives and a kick side (and not even a winning one, for which he would be forgiven) in next to no time. I doubt there's any other supporter of Fev who'd share your view.

#2984138 Donny & Batley Get Points Back !

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 28 August 2014 - 05:01 PM

The RFL have made a rod for their own back with this one. Suppose, say, Keighley, Whitehaven and Workington now break those same operational rules in an attempt to ensure they avoid relegation...........

#2976332 New CEO

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 13 August 2014 - 09:02 AM

Oh, how I love these "I know something you don't know, but I'm not allowed to tell you" threads.