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Les Tonks Sidestep

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#3181149 karma

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 August 2015 - 10:48 AM

Not sure what I want the outcome of the Middle 8s to be. On the one hand it would be great for a Championship team to be promoted - and if it's Leigh, there's the added advantage of getting rid of a 'nasty' team and (some of) their supporters - but, on the other hand it would be so funny if Leigh were consigned to at least another year down here with us rubbing rags.

#3158300 Who is at fault ?

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 14 July 2015 - 06:59 PM

Tony Smith has expressed his unhappiness that many young players at SL clubs will effectively end their season in 2 weeks time and get no further game time after that.

Part of the problem is the DR rule for the middle and lower 8s which says that at the point of the split a player has to be allocated to either his parent club or their partner club and this can't be changed afterwards. He can only play for one or the other. They also must have played a minimum of 3 games for the partner club to be eligible.

However, SL clubs are also partly to blame as they do not want to send players out just in case they have an injury crisis as they wouldn't be able to recall them.

Of course, if we still had a reserve team system this wouldn't be an issue, but as things stand dozens of players are going to be not playing from 24th of this month (the registration deadline). That is a shocking state of affairs really.


The fault lies fairly and squarely with the clubs who decided to get rid of the 'reserves'.

#3120816 Can someone please get rid of the muppets running our game at the RFL!

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 10 May 2015 - 08:00 PM

Maybe The Daddy, Scotchy etc should get together and visit (or at the very least, write to) all the club chairmen outling their 'vision' for the future. I'm sure with it being such a great idea they'll get the ovewhelming support form all of the clubs who will, no doubt, thrust them forward as spokespersons for the bright future their vision will bring to TGG.


In fact I'm surprised none of them have already risen above the flotsam that is the leadership of the RFL to take their place......

#3105193 20 years ago next week (23/4)

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 12 April 2015 - 06:40 PM

Apologies to anyone under 25 years of age but next week marks the 20th anniversary of Featherstone's last top flight game. It was on the 23/4 at home to Oldham. There was a protest march before the game from Pontefract to the ground. I remember Ian Clayton and Sir Geoffrey Lofthouse (MP) rallying the criwd before the march.

Does anyone have any pictures of that day, either march or match? Smart phones and social media weren't about in those days so I guess pictures will be scarce.

Incidentally we won the match quite easily, and looking at the love rugby league archive of the match it appears that Freddie Banquet kicked the gials that day, I guess Aston did not play. I remember the march and the aftermath on the pitch but the gane is a blur.


Like you Andrew I remember little about the game - about the only thing I remember was the players standing in the area that is now the corporate viewing area and I'm pretty sure Steve Molloy throwing his boots into the crowd. It certainly was an emotional day, and nevermind being Featherstone's last top flight game, many thought it might be their last, ever.

#3100769 Rovers v London and Sheffield match threads.

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 04 April 2015 - 10:27 PM

Andy Hay kept faith in the players who did a good job last week and they let him down badly, too busy patting themselves on the back. I've feeling there will be changes on Monday, likely Moore, Ellis and Bussey all coming back, Mendeika an outside chance, although the club were trying to arrange a reserve game for him next week. He might play on Monday instead after that show.


If the performance at Dewsbury is going to be considered good enough we are in for a very long season. Dewsbury's mistakes masked some absolutely dire defence on Rovers' part. Moore is head and shoulders the best half back at the Club and Ellis the same at hooker. Those 2 should be playing whenever fit.

#3096272 RFL Investigate Leeds transfer deals.

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 27 March 2015 - 10:31 PM

Precedent set by Warrington/Swinton and the RFL are big on precedence (see Batley v the RFL 2014)

#3090031 Leigh sunday

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 16 March 2015 - 08:03 PM

Batley aren't full time and neither are Whitehaven. Check their results from yesterday and especially Batley's performance.


But, Batley didn't win and they got the same number of league points as did Fev from their fixture with Bradford. Pushing the top teams (ie Bradford and Leigh) close gets you nothing. To finish in the top 4 (realistically 3rd or 4th) you need to be beating the other contenders. So far Batley have played 2 of the other likely contenders for those positions, namely Sheffield and Halifax, and lost both. Games like yesterday's are Kear's forte, but it's the bread and butter stuff that will really count for 3rd and 4th.

#3089627 Leigh sunday

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 16 March 2015 - 09:29 AM

The only problem I had with the ref yesterday was him allowing tackled players to move forward as they got up/played the ball forcing the markers to touch them to gain a penalty - St Helens used to be experts at this tactic. Having said that, our discipline, again, at times was terrible and the markers totally ineffective (as they were many times at Fax too). But, all is not lost, we only need another halfback (assuming we can get Moore fit, otherwise 2), another centre, a second rower who can break a tackle and a big rampaging prop and we'll be fine for the top 4 (but no DRs please!). Oh, and a few attacking moves wouldn't come amiss.........

#3082108 fev -v- Oldham 2007

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 03 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

After a bit of digging, I've found this match report: http://www.yorkshire...am-18-1-2461204

#3082024 fev -v- Oldham 2007

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 03 March 2015 - 11:24 AM

From memory when Tony got sent off that day it involved a fight with Gavin Swinson (also dismissed) and few others in front of the family stand near the half way line, must admit I was glad when he joined the Rovers he turned out to be a cracking signing for the few seasons he was with us.


Swinson was only sinbinned for providing the best 'play' of the match in winding Tonks up enough to thump him.

#3080816 DR YES OR NO

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 01 March 2015 - 12:26 PM

Everyone is saying the same thing "No" but if we need to finish 4th as we know we do then we must play on a level playing field. To me it's all in or all out. If AH thinks it strengthens us and we can then we should. The lost issue here is development as it doesn't encourage youth investment and dare I say it makes us a feeder club. In summary no but if others do then so should we - if it gets us 4th


So why have we signed so many players on? If they're not good enough they should be shipped out with whoever signed them on in the first place following close behind.

#3077647 The squad numbers are out, and so is the betting...

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 February 2015 - 08:16 PM


500-1 Paul Wood (though someone somewhere will probably find a way to spell his name wrong too)


C'mon, you're all just messing with me now...check out today's man of the match thread and four different people have added an S to Wood's surname!



You'd never make a Bookie :tongue: Still offering those odds after the rank outsider had already cantered in 3 times after the Hunslet game.....

#3075834 Doncaster v Featherstone match thread.

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 21 February 2015 - 11:13 AM

This season isn't about sentiment.... it's about that middle 8. Nowt less.


So why the h3ll have we signed so many forwards? If they're not good enough they shouldn't have been signed. Gives me no confidence at all in the judgement of whoever is agreeing to sign players on. Bringing in 2 new players who haven't trained with the rest of the squad, don't know the plays..... well that's really going to help. Far too early to be panicing as it would appear we are (again).


Seems you've also done a u-turn on this season being one of consolidation ;)

#3059763 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 05:59 PM

So Cas should be promoting their brand in that area and if successful, presumably they will be on a par with Warrington catchment
area wise.


Clearly you don't know much about the area if you mean Ponte, South Elmsall, Knottingley etc as Cas are already targetting there, and have been for years, just as are Featherstone and Wakefield. There's no way any of the 3 could claim these places as an exclusive catchment area. As others have pointed out there's a lot of affinity for the area's other teams (and now even Leeds due to the house buiding that has taken place over the last 15 years or so) in these towns which would not only take years to change but also require the other 2 teams to disappear. Even if folk don't actually attend PO Rd or Belle Vue they'd be even less likely to go to Cas. Further afield in the Selby District they face competition from Leeds, Doncaster, York and the 2 Hull clubs for (potential) supporters.


As l'ange has said, the combined support for the 3 Wakefield District clubs is pretty abysmal for a so called hot bed of the game, although to be fair, it's the same story for most of the 'heartlands'. The sad reality is that in the UK RL isn't anywhere near as big, or important, as many on here seem to think it is.

#3059580 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 10:59 AM

Ponte is in the immediate vicinity, it's stuck on to Cas at junction 32. Selby and eastwards from there are the way to go locally, but they and all other clubs should be working on broadening their demographic as well.


Problem is that although the Selby District has a population of about 80k it is spread quite thinly making targetting potential attendees difficult and, more importantly, costly. The population of Selby itself (ca20k) isn't much bigger than that of Featherstone (ca15k), with the next biggest urban areas of Tadcaster and Sherburn having pops of about 6k each. Tadcaster and Sherburn are much more likely to be attracted to Leeds and I also suspect the east of the district is probably more inclined to lean towards 'Hull' rather than any of the 'Wakefield' clubs. To match the population of Warrington (200k+) you need to combine the populations of Ponte (30k), Cas (40k), Hemsworth (13k), Featherstone (15k), South Elmsall (13k), South Kirkby/Moorthorpe (7k) and the whole of the Selby District. In reality the only one of the 'Wakefield' clubs with the real potential to become huge is Wakefield, and they are in deperate need of a new ground to have any chance of doing so. Unless, of course, the 3 unite to form a 'super club' but there's more chance of me winning the lottery 2 draws on the trot than that happening.