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Les Tonks Sidestep

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#3059763 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 05:59 PM

So Cas should be promoting their brand in that area and if successful, presumably they will be on a par with Warrington catchment
area wise.


Clearly you don't know much about the area if you mean Ponte, South Elmsall, Knottingley etc as Cas are already targetting there, and have been for years, just as are Featherstone and Wakefield. There's no way any of the 3 could claim these places as an exclusive catchment area. As others have pointed out there's a lot of affinity for the area's other teams (and now even Leeds due to the house buiding that has taken place over the last 15 years or so) in these towns which would not only take years to change but also require the other 2 teams to disappear. Even if folk don't actually attend PO Rd or Belle Vue they'd be even less likely to go to Cas. Further afield in the Selby District they face competition from Leeds, Doncaster, York and the 2 Hull clubs for (potential) supporters.


As l'ange has said, the combined support for the 3 Wakefield District clubs is pretty abysmal for a so called hot bed of the game, although to be fair, it's the same story for most of the 'heartlands'. The sad reality is that in the UK RL isn't anywhere near as big, or important, as many on here seem to think it is.

#3059580 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 23 January 2015 - 10:59 AM

Ponte is in the immediate vicinity, it's stuck on to Cas at junction 32. Selby and eastwards from there are the way to go locally, but they and all other clubs should be working on broadening their demographic as well.


Problem is that although the Selby District has a population of about 80k it is spread quite thinly making targetting potential attendees difficult and, more importantly, costly. The population of Selby itself (ca20k) isn't much bigger than that of Featherstone (ca15k), with the next biggest urban areas of Tadcaster and Sherburn having pops of about 6k each. Tadcaster and Sherburn are much more likely to be attracted to Leeds and I also suspect the east of the district is probably more inclined to lean towards 'Hull' rather than any of the 'Wakefield' clubs. To match the population of Warrington (200k+) you need to combine the populations of Ponte (30k), Cas (40k), Hemsworth (13k), Featherstone (15k), South Elmsall (13k), South Kirkby/Moorthorpe (7k) and the whole of the Selby District. In reality the only one of the 'Wakefield' clubs with the real potential to become huge is Wakefield, and they are in deperate need of a new ground to have any chance of doing so. Unless, of course, the 3 unite to form a 'super club' but there's more chance of me winning the lottery 2 draws on the trot than that happening.

#3057420 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 19 January 2015 - 10:40 AM

That's one thing that's a bit weird. The 10k capacity of the new stadium will be less than the current capacity (before the wall collapsed) of Wheldon Road.

A lot of these new stadiums are designed to be able to increase the capacity at a future date though.

Anyway, I know of two households on Park Road and Stainburn Avenue who are strongly against the development. Has the process gone beyond where they consider the objections of local residents? I have no idea.



good point.

We've seen that figure surpassed by cas during the SL era.

But more importantly to me there has to be growth built in to a plan for the future. On top of this the stadium needs to be multi use and be able to stage other major events.


There's very little detail regarding the stadium  - the only comments I've seen are the capacity and the description 'community'. Definitely no mention of whether it can be expanded or not and (lack of) parking is a massive negative for planning, match day and potential other use. I'd also wager there'll be quite a few more residents on the Pontefract side of the M62 who'll be objecting when they realise that their streets will become car parks on match days too.


In reality the stadium really is only a sweetener from the developers and is more than likely to be built as cheaply as possible - no doubt the developers have set aside a figure they will spend. IF it does come to fruition, CTRLFC may regret going down this particular route in the longer term

#3054196 cas ground

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 10 January 2015 - 01:46 PM

Not sure why anyone would gloat about this - 'there but for the grace of God' and all that. And, thank goodness it wasn't tomorrow with lots of folk about.

#3030594 keegan hirst

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 10 November 2014 - 10:00 AM

Good luck Keegan. Don't think your contribution was appreciated as much as it should've been.

#2989234 Fax boss Harrison slams “amateurish” performance

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 05 September 2014 - 08:36 PM

I wouldn't mind him at Fev. ....


Really? He's taken Halifax from being one of the most exciting and entertaining teams in the Championship to a dour 5 drives and a kick side (and not even a winning one, for which he would be forgiven) in next to no time. I doubt there's any other supporter of Fev who'd share your view.

#2984138 Donny & Batley Get Points Back !

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 28 August 2014 - 05:01 PM

The RFL have made a rod for their own back with this one. Suppose, say, Keighley, Whitehaven and Workington now break those same operational rules in an attempt to ensure they avoid relegation...........

#2976332 New CEO

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 13 August 2014 - 09:02 AM

Oh, how I love these "I know something you don't know, but I'm not allowed to tell you" threads.

#2956380 Major new investors

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 08 July 2014 - 02:27 PM

Like I said thebacca, its all down to how you define success and sod all about "what I or any other bug ger deserves"!
If you define success as winning tge league leaders sheild daryl was an unequivocal success.
if you regard success as winning trophies, he wasn't.
Thats a simple enough concept to grasp is it not? And absolutely nowt to do with what we deserve.
Daryl took the cas job and fair play to him. He's done well there with limited resources.
Daryl leaving wasn't the issue.... he'd have gone anyway.
appointing bastian was a bad un.... a bloody nightmare of a coach who looked way way out of his depth and so far out of touch with reality he might have well come from mars. That was the issue. Set us back at least six years


Just a point though Robin, as I'm sure you know, we won those league titles by small margins (3pts 3 times and 6pts once) so we weren't the totally dominant force people believe. We did win 4 of the 10 trophies available over the period DP was in charge (would have been 5 but for a complete fluke event and I'm not counting the LLS or GF last season as he'd gone by then). Anyone who does not consider that a success is living in a dream world. Interestingly a bloke was brought in at the end of last season and hailed as some sort of messiah even though he failed to even get us to the GF!

#2949196 Nahaboo

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 24 June 2014 - 04:13 PM

...We would all own a miniscule amount of rovers then lol :-D


You can do just that if you're a season ticket holder and have the princely sum of £10 spare.

#2946216 Manning Ban

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 18 June 2014 - 08:41 AM

I can't believe that only Manning and Haggerty have been up before the disciplinary following that game. I really thought that they'd been charged quickly as they were the two sent off, and others would be cited following review of the video. I can only conclude that whoever reviewed it needs to urgently visit the referees' sponsor.


Haggerty got 2 games following an EGP.

#2943677 Fev make bid for Huddersfield Big 3

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 12 June 2014 - 07:55 PM

I'm one Fev fan that agrees with you Terminator.

What have all these brash statements achieved over the last couple of months? Nothing that couldn't have been achieved by keeping things in-house and making considered announcements as and when things have actually been finalised.



The big problem is that it's all a bit like the boy 'who cried wolf' When there is some real news to announce, no one will be interested.

#2930615 the coach

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 16 May 2014 - 10:07 PM

like who????
Who is available who wants to come to fev?
Despite how we might hope, the justin morgans of this world just aren't bashing campbell's door down.


I don't know Robin, but I do know that the Club got rid of someone who was doing alright because they thought the grass was greener.... and look what's happened.


Maybe more thinking should take place before rushing into actions (and statements for that matter)?

#2930115 The new Featherstone Rovers Head coach is..............

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 15 May 2014 - 10:52 PM

Good luck to him.


He'll need it. Bucket of salt time for all new announcements from the club........

#2930112 Fev DR with Wakefield

Posted by Les Tonks Sidestep on 15 May 2014 - 10:46 PM

not good for the club in the long term. hth


Not good for the club full stop. I wish people would stop trying to justify the change in attitude, strikes me as blind panic.


Temporary because of injury situation my jacksie.


'Clubs going down the DR route are settling for mediocrity' - or so said a very senior official at the club not very long ago.


I really fear for the future.


And as for the club's statement on the matter, the least said the better........