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#3108245 UAE, Spain & South Africa bid for 2021 World Cup

Posted by Bob8 on 18 April 2015 - 09:38 PM


Please, just ask yourselves if England could by, any stretch of the mind, host a succefull floorball or handball world cup.
Then, for the love of god, just let's move on.


England hosted the Olympic handball and did very well.  So, yes.  It also was a great launch pad for handball in the UK, which previously had not really existed.  What made the difference was political will to make it work.  There are serious players involved in the South African bid, if it does have political backing, it could work extremely well.

The UAE were clearly serious enough to get the soccer world cup, if they are serious about the RL world cup they could certainly get and host it.  Also, the bribe would keep the RFL going for years.

Spain is more doubtful.

#3058467 worst import ever ?

Posted by Bob8 on 21 January 2015 - 12:33 PM

Barry Ward?

That was it.  Most came for the pay cheques, he came for Greggs.

#3057091 News from Sweden

Posted by Bob8 on 18 January 2015 - 05:24 PM

I misread that as 'Impact Power League'. Now that would be a good name for a competition.

What does this mean for the joint Sweden-Denmark league?

It means there will not be a Pan-Scandinavian League.  However, there are solid plans for a domestic league in Denmark, tying in with a lot of the youth work that has been less visible.


There is a new President and vice-President of Danish rugby league as off yesterday (hand over rather than coup), who should be able to do a very good job.  

#3050020 Country people - just like townies

Posted by Bob8 on 29 December 2014 - 04:12 PM

Likewise nowt wrong with shooting em if they're predating your livestock or diseased

That is a bit Logan's Run, isn't it?  How old are your livestock?

#3049857 Wiki..pedia and others.

Posted by Bob8 on 29 December 2014 - 08:04 AM

Really?  Well I wouldn't have guessed.


However, that still doesn't change the fact that Wiki is unreliable as primary source material.  It can be used as secondary source material, with caveats.

Wikipedia is not a primary source material at all (unless you can be certain that a witness to an event is directly typing).  Nor is a text book.  It cannot be  used as a primary source, leading to a low mark or otherwise.  This is the point L'Ang was making and Just Browny was referring to.  In the vast majority of cases, it is a tertiary source, though at times it is secondary or primary.*


Clearly, depending on the level of your subject, a text book could only be used as a viewpoint source, not as evidence.  Wikipedia can also be used as a text book.  You will find no other general source of referenced information as good as Wikipedia.  I hope though, that when writing your degree, you read further than just text books and used them as sources to find the information, which you could then read for yourself.  


If a scientist has to look into a new field, Wikipedia is often a great place to start, as it will give a huge number of references.  These references can then be used, but also have to be assessed (peer reviewed science is rather good, medical journals are gossip).


I would repeat that link that JohnM mentioned:


Like a text book, Wikipedia should just be a starting point.  However, it is the starting point that I go to time and time again.





*A personal example, I have done research and put a result of two on Wikipedia on what I saw (primary - but essentially anonymous), assuming it was published as data I would cite the reference (secondary).  Most of what I have written on there is a review of information commonly referenced and known (tertiary).

#3049406 so what's he bringing you this year

Posted by Bob8 on 27 December 2014 - 05:54 PM

I had it drilled into my head at university never to trust Wiki.  I've not been able to shake that distrust ever since, so I don't trust Wiki. 


Wikipedia is a great place to start any investigation.  Many publications ridicule Wikipedia, but if those articles were in Wikipedia, they would have a banner at the top explaining that the articles did not cite their sources and had strong indications of bias.  As someone of a reasonable age, people used to rust encyclopedias far more than they trust Wikipedia now, and  encyclopedias really were unreliable (e.g. the IRB would write the entry for rugby league). 


What is notable, is that many people on this forum will post a link to a newspaper as strong evidence.

#3048230 UK's most desirable place

Posted by Bob8 on 23 December 2014 - 07:01 AM

Well done on winning your local competition.





It is worth noting that it topped the list in the second link only once a rugby league club had been established.

#3045403 Places I have played - watched Rugby

Posted by Bob8 on 15 December 2014 - 10:38 AM

Played in Denmark, England, Norway, Sweden and USA.

#3045128 Hong Kong Rugby League

Posted by Bob8 on 14 December 2014 - 08:14 PM

Wonderful news. 


Having been at the founding of similar initiatives I hae a few bits of advice that you are welcome to ignore.


Be bold, you have nothing to lose.


The exceptions here are be careful, not vain with finances, and keep your word.

#3039799 Black Friday...Seriously, is it worth it?

Posted by Bob8 on 01 December 2014 - 03:10 PM

Absolutely, there's nowt poncey about eating herring, even on rye bread.


#3039714 Black Friday...Seriously, is it worth it?

Posted by Bob8 on 01 December 2014 - 12:30 PM

There was a bit of a queue for the pickled herring at the Scandinavian Seamen's Church Christmas market and I bumped into somebody at one of the stalls.

I eat herring regularly.  On rye bread.  May I be excused from being a ponse as I live over there?

#3039689 New RL World Rankings

Posted by Bob8 on 01 December 2014 - 11:10 AM

Australia should be at 3, this ranking system is totally wrong. They are on the way down big time.

They are still world champions and you cannot expect a system to take account of a match being bent.  Even with that, I would still expect Australia to beat England in a years time and I expect that you would too.

#3039188 World Ranking 2014

Posted by Bob8 on 30 November 2014 - 06:30 AM

The ranking is a bit insensitive at the bottom.  Germany are in a period of reconstruction after a few years inactivity and are still ranked 18th.  Sweden (30) and Denmark (26) won the Nordic Cup (2013 and 2014) in the last two years and both have won their games over Norway for the last two years (19).

However, Norway has its own domestic championship, where as Sweden and Denmark play cross border and had fewer clubs than Norway.

#3036735 The Lib Dems

Posted by Bob8 on 23 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

Who are the rich? 


And why should they pay more?

People with more money.


Because they have more money.


I have more money than some, in great part because of fortunate advantages and the good society has done for me.


I have less money than some, in great part because of fortunate advantages and the good society has done for them.

#3036729 UKIPpery

Posted by Bob8 on 23 November 2014 - 10:37 PM

He should represent all his constituents.

Let us hope that none of them have differing opinions.


Regarding UKIP, a couple of repetitive points. 


My feeling is that there is more isolation from Westminister than at any time in my lfe (38 years, since you ask).  This means increasing popularity for any alterntative and scepticism of any suggestion coming from Westminister.  So, the EU is more popular than ever and so is UKIP.


Labour is becoming increasing rubbish in a was the Conservatives always have been.  It is following the American model of a party that barely conceal their contempt for working people and one that do not even try.  As a leftie, UKIP might be good thing.


UKIP are a classic continental party, with right wing ideology coupled wiith some left wing populism.  Were they in a coalition, only the right wing policies would see the light of day.