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#3036735 The Lib Dems

Posted by Bob8 on 23 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

Who are the rich? 


And why should they pay more?

People with more money.


Because they have more money.


I have more money than some, in great part because of fortunate advantages and the good society has done for me.


I have less money than some, in great part because of fortunate advantages and the good society has done for them.

#3036729 UKIPpery

Posted by Bob8 on 23 November 2014 - 10:37 PM

He should represent all his constituents.

Let us hope that none of them have differing opinions.


Regarding UKIP, a couple of repetitive points. 


My feeling is that there is more isolation from Westminister than at any time in my lfe (38 years, since you ask).  This means increasing popularity for any alterntative and scepticism of any suggestion coming from Westminister.  So, the EU is more popular than ever and so is UKIP.


Labour is becoming increasing rubbish in a was the Conservatives always have been.  It is following the American model of a party that barely conceal their contempt for working people and one that do not even try.  As a leftie, UKIP might be good thing.


UKIP are a classic continental party, with right wing ideology coupled wiith some left wing populism.  Were they in a coalition, only the right wing policies would see the light of day.

#3034806 Denmark Rugby League (Merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 18 November 2014 - 09:04 PM

The DRLF YouTube is up.  Only a few poor resolution videos at the moment, but much better stuff is already under production.


#3034580 If you're under 30, bad luck. You're screwed

Posted by Bob8 on 18 November 2014 - 10:04 AM

I seem to remember my parents doing a fair bit for me, so I am inclined to let them off.  The issue is not really one of generation, but that people will gain wealth from their parents rather than from working for it.

#3028102 MacNamara supping in the Last Chance Saloon

Posted by Bob8 on 06 November 2014 - 03:47 PM

I think McNamara was out-thought last week by Sheens - a coach with limited resources
He didn't change tack looking like there was 1 game plan and thats it. Sheens had to change to win the game and it worked
It looked like McN thought the big props were going to blow Australia way by just battering away in the 2nd half. At some points we had 3 props on the field when Sheens was speeding the game up.

The refereeing didn't help whatsoever, and we didn't have good field position for much of the 2nd half, but I feel it was an opportunity missed. Commentators on the BBC and on Channel 9 said that the Aussies were struggling early in the 2nd half. Instead we shut up shop and didn't vary the play.


Out-thought by Sheens?  He was swindled by the ARL.  That was a crooked match and that cannot be blamed on McNamara.

#3027405 Not having neutral refs makes the sport look like a shambles!

Posted by Bob8 on 05 November 2014 - 07:24 AM

Mickey Mouse is very popular.



We have to put a positive spin on it.  For people in Denmark who are typically new to the game and got up even earlier than UK fans to watch the game, having officiating clearly there to benefit one side was rather shocking. These people are hardly one-eyed Poms and I could not dismiss them as such when they ask WTF was going on in that game.  It is hard to convince people in DK that we are a proper sport when they see one of the biggest internationals of the year fall below the integrity of most park football - it does not do us much good.  


Ultimately, the strength of the game in small nations is not that huge a concern in terms of the Australian market, but my opinion is that it was very short-sighted.

#3027400 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 05 November 2014 - 07:01 AM

Danish rugby league fans are apparently hugely bias too, they all seemed to think the officiating was bent.  


OzWelsh may think they are just biased, but this nonsense does harm the credibility of the game.  

#3025540 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 02 November 2014 - 01:11 PM

I read your reasoning and didn't really think you were being reasonable. It sounded like a rant. You don't have to start getting snotty because I don't agree with you.


Very well.  Let's just agree that you think one thing and everyone else with half a brain saw it differently :D

#3025312 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 02 November 2014 - 09:38 AM

You could argue the same for contentious refereeing decisions. They happen in every game.


We need to look at what we did wrong and I hope the boys are doing before next week. I would rather that than the bottom lip out stuff I read on here

I wrote how it would go earlier, just enough wrong decisions to ensure an Aussie win.  Imagine if some of those errors from England had been eliminted, there would have merely been more decisions going Australia's way to ensure the result.  The ref was under huge pressure from his boss to make sure Australia won and did enough. 


Ref decisions will sometimes be incorrect.  As a St Helens fan, I have never felt that the ref was bent.  When watching soccer, I have never felt the ref was bent against my team.  Indeed, it is extremely rare that I have seen any major game where I have been confident the ref was bent, the only ones I recall are Porto vs Celtic over ten years ago and a few of the Australia vs GB/England tests.

#3025265 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 02 November 2014 - 09:09 AM

this doesnt wash. We did enough for at least a draw.
An Aussie ref changed the rules to prevent that happening.

All the things you mention are just part of the game, we did enough.

Indeed, the more England had got right, the more Sutton would have got wrong to keep the result the same.  It was fixed, but that was announced a few days in advance. 


It really is at the level of playing with a six year old who declares they will only play if they get to decide the winner.  Once you accept these terms there is little room to complain afterwards.

#3025146 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 02 November 2014 - 07:59 AM

The issue is that the ARL feared they would be humiliated by losing two in a row after all this time.  By fixing a result, the potential humiliation increases and the acceptability of cheating increases.

#3022001 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Bob8 on 28 October 2014 - 05:20 PM

It is unfortunate.  If the AFL have no interest is not being seen as cheating, it seems hardly unlikely they do not intend to cheat.  Clearly, the ref will be made to understand that he is there to prevent the current AFL being administration being the one humiliated.  There will be a couple of decisions if the game is close.  Outrageous decisions will only happen as in 2006, 2008 and 2010 if it is getting a bit hairy.


The AFL have sacrificed the international game for their own vanity.  They are a bunch of cheats and cowards.

#3017682 25k for Wallabies last week, 14k today v Arg ... Ouch

Posted by Bob8 on 21 October 2014 - 06:06 PM

The other option is the ignore function which I am really pleased with. Now unless someone quotes MB I never have to see his trolling which makes the cross code forum a much more pleasant place without seeing his personal attacks and petty digs at RU.



Until someone quotes him.

#3013483 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 10:14 PM

Can we just agree that a handful of one-eyed Wigan fans have one opinion and the entire rest of the world have another and leave it there?

#3013471 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 09:49 PM

good Lord, do you even see why those 2 paragraphs are so funny.

When Padge writes "Saints supporters" he includes all non-Wigan fans, including the national media.  It is funny St Helens RLFC do not take more advantage of this seemingly omnipotent control of the national consciousness.