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#3013483 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 10:14 PM

Can we just agree that a handful of one-eyed Wigan fans have one opinion and the entire rest of the world have another and leave it there?




#3013471 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 09:49 PM

good Lord, do you even see why those 2 paragraphs are so funny.

When Padge writes "Saints supporters" he includes all non-Wigan fans, including the national media.  It is funny St Helens RLFC do not take more advantage of this seemingly omnipotent control of the national consciousness. 




#3013399 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 08:39 PM

Should Hohaia attend the same classes as Flowers, see video above, LH ran 10 meters or more to get that hit in Flowers reacted instantly (this does not defend the second punch at all), you can see from that video clip why Flowers reacted with a swinger (not condoning it or excusing what followed).

 

No-one is that outraged by the first punch that knocked Hohaia out of it.  If that had been the end of it, your comparison would be valid.  Instead it is tiresome and silly.




#3013162 Straight Red for punching is killing the game and turning fans away

Posted by Bob8 on 13 October 2014 - 04:14 PM

For me what lance did on Saturday was worse than what flower did, the second punch was already unleashed before he realised he was out. Watch it in normal time and see how he pulls out of caving his face in. If he had give him it full on with the second then his face would of been a lot worse.
If someone runs in with the elbow it is a worse incident than a punch.

That is pure fiction. 

 

Presumably, the reason the papers are not full of what Lance did is part of a huge global anti-Wigan conspiracy.




#3012268 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 12 October 2014 - 01:27 PM

How's the pitch fork sharpening coming on?
For mine, it's all we could have done at this stage, and I am pleased we have at least done this much.

Can you see why this is not a normal incident?  Reposting the same nonsense does not make it true.




#3012034 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Bob8 on 12 October 2014 - 08:03 AM

Throw the book at him! The RFL need to step up here and take a strong hold on this situation. 2014 saw a player banned for 12 months for placing a bet. This incident is no less than full blown assault.

I'm all for a bit of biff, but what happened yesterday was thuggish and sickening to watch. To attack the head of someone's son, someone's husband, someone's father when they lay unconscious is just disgusting.

While this may strike people as unfair, the impact of the incident is made far worse by it being the Grand Final, with a huge number of people watching and it being rugby league's showcase.  It is this sort of incident that means more Mums will be making sure their kids play soccer instead.  It has to be seen to be taken seriously. 




#3012030 11/10/14 - SLGF: St Helens v Wigan Warriors KO 6pm (TV)

Posted by Bob8 on 12 October 2014 - 07:51 AM

Got back from the game and saw the Flower/Hohaia incident on the SKY half time review.
Wells drew attention to the incident kicking off with Hohaia running in at Flower off the ball and slamming his forearm into Flowers jaw.
Flower obviously took it that Hohaia intended to break his jaw and reacted as he did.
Flower was rightly sent off but Hohaia, the instigator, was not dealt with.
From the SKY TV review it is very obvious that both men should have been sent off.

 

Had Flowers not reacted, then there would have been a yellow card for Hohaia.  Flowers first punch would have got the same, or possibly a red as it was in the Grand Final.  Once Hohaia had been knocked out, I consider him to have been more than dealt with, leaving only the red for Flowers.

 

If it seems like Saints were let off, then consider that they lost their only play maker.  The match then became a side to twelve against one with no play makers. 




#3011502 Air Serbia feature RL in magazine

Posted by Bob8 on 11 October 2014 - 11:11 AM

Good stuff! What's the rags to riches?

The article was a review of the sport of rugby league and its history.  It did mention rugby union, but the members of this board would be very pleased with the comparison.  Indeed, the article seemed to assume league's moral superiority in the casual manner that is more often the other way.
It discussed how Red Star (the traditional police team) and Partizan (the traditional army team) is the big Belgrade rivalary, but that Partizan had been holding out by only playing rugby union.  Now that that has been corrected, we had a great derby match on our hands.




#2996956 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by Bob8 on 16 September 2014 - 10:31 PM

Pretty much the same could be said of little englander, or southeastern man. The only difference being their spot on a political sectrum.

I am not sure I understand your point, sorry.  The campaign for No seems to be arrogantly run by a bunch of people who are unaware that they are the problem.




#2994603 Ian Paisley dies

Posted by Bob8 on 13 September 2014 - 11:24 AM

He was an absolutely horrendous bigot, who created a climate in which men killed innocent people merely for being Catholic. He may not have sent them off to do the killing but he was certainly in the background, whispering hatred in their ears. And he did absolutely everything in his power to stop any form of political or social equality, from the 1960s onwards - leading to a continued cycle of violence for decades to come. Even when the winds had changed and the UUP and SDLP were doing everything possible to bring a resolution, even bringing SF/IRA into the tent, Paisley still stood outside p**sing in. 

 

He did nothing to help bring about peace, merely undermine it at every turn. When it was finally in place, and he faced a fait accompli after the agreement had passed the referendum, he took advantage of the wounds inflicted on David Trimble by years of negotiations to manouvre his own party, the DUP, into a position of power. Even then it took another decade for him to accept a deal.

 

The fact that he could then sit in government with SF does not wipe out all that he did in the decades before.

Whilst everything you say is correct, there are things in his favour.  That his principles could be bought off meant that he would keep peace hostage, but would release it when he got his ransom.  Giving him a house and his family titles was a small price to pay.

 

He and McGuinness should be friends, they have much in common.  They are/were driven by murder, with personal prestige and power.  This meant they were easier to deal with.  A genuine idelogue, rather than hate filled egotists, would have been even worse.

 

They are hypocrites, but as they claimed that their 'principles' would prevent any compromise, we are fortunate they were lying.




#2993629 UK has most breweries per head of population

Posted by Bob8 on 12 September 2014 - 05:45 AM

Great news!

I am currently in the Red Lion, Ealing enjoying a pint of ESB (notes of marmalade etc).

(This is the pub directly opposite the old Ealing Film Studios.)

That is my local when I am in Ealing, which is not rarely.  Very fond of the place.




#2991623 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by Bob8 on 09 September 2014 - 03:10 PM

Oh yes

Believe it or not the only person I could remotely stand was the Tory

I've always had a lot of time for her

And as for Eddie 'set my people free' Reeder...

As an ordinary english person from a working class background I'm getting more resentful with everything I hear and read

 

Independence can't soon enough I'm sick of even hearing a Scots accent even especially a certain kind of Scots accent. OK so your Scottish and?

I have experienced that some Scots when referring to the English are using it as short hand for the evil, posh, London hoorah Henries and find it odd if you refer to yourself as English when not fitting that mould.




#2988436 RLEF has revoked Germany’s Affiliate Membership and Catalonia’s Observer status.

Posted by Bob8 on 04 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

@Supertyke

Well, I partly disagree. Just to give an example:

RU in Germany is a minor sport as well. But they have at least a decent competition and the national team attracts a few thousands. The last game I attended Germany v NZ ambassadors attracted 3.000 something people despite bad weather and less marketing. Now compare this to the RL in Germany. The matches I attended at the Euro Shield - Germany v Italy (at 40 degrees) and Germany v Serbia - attracted approx. 50 people each. It is not about TV coverage as neither RU nor RL is being broadcast on German TV. And it shows that there is room to gain interest in RL in Germany.

 

I really don't know how anyone expects Rugby League to grow on the continent, never mind flourish. How do you expect people to gain interest in a sport they can't watch?

 

Instead of being broadcast on Sky Sports, the Super League should be on Eurosport, a programme that can be watched for free in Europe!

 

I've been living in Germany for more years than I care to count, and the only way I can watch Super League, or Rugby League at all for that matter, is via Internet streams...

 

In Denmark, the dominant club, that are like Rangers and Celtic all wrapped into one, attract about 15,000.  The second sport is hardball and top flight matches attract a few hundred.  Rugby union matches do not get crowds.  

 

The way rugby league has had hundreds along is by making it an event, getting relatively well known pop-stars along to perform, getting very good beer, food and music.  It is a struggle, but it is possible.  Roller derby are getting four figure crowds, we can learn from them.




#2984029 Ukip gets its first MP

Posted by Bob8 on 28 August 2014 - 03:03 PM

How much does it cost to stage a by-election, just to re-endorse someone who decides to switch horses mid-term?

It would be much cheaper if they scrapped this voting business.  I entirely agree, John, but I never thought you would come round ;)




#2982362 Rugby Codes Collide at Bath and Wigan Training Camp

Posted by Bob8 on 25 August 2014 - 07:47 AM

He was a contemporary of Victor Obogu, Jeremy Guscott, Andy Harriman, Adedayo Adebbayo and Steve Ojomoh. They've got 112 caps between them. Can you guess what else they have in common?

True, though at the time that Offiah went to league, they were yet to play.  The only black English rugby players that were playing for England in his lifetime up to that point were playing league.  He might well have percieved it as an issue.  That said, he was certainly hoping to make the squad and one of the conversations in which Loughton persuaded him to come to Widnes was detailing his weak kicking game as a reason he would not play for England RU.