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1st round draw

Great Cliffton Tigers - Wath Brow

East Hull - Bye

Batley Boys - Bye

Myton Warriors - Eastern Rhinos

Doncaster Toll Bar - Hull Isburg

West Leeds - Oldham St Anns

Ossett Trinity - Bye

Mirfield Stags - Hunslet Club Parkside

Sharlston Rovers - Upton

Boothtown - Fryston

Egremont - Bye

Queens - Selby Warriors

Thatto Heath - Widnes West Bank

Thornhill Trojan - Morley Borough

Birkinshaw - Bye

West Bowling - North Herts Crusaders

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I am a huge fan of the BARLA National cup and have managed to collect the results of every game ever played in it! The BARLA National cup peaked about 1986-87 and in those days I was with a club that played in NWCL division 7 but we, and many other clubs like us, entered because it was the only chance of getting to travel, or host, a team from another league or another area. Bit of an adventure, but attitudes changed and clubs started saying "We are not going to win it so why enter". It doesn't help that the NCL won't give free dates to clubs who enter, plus its still a winter competition so some of the Summer based clubs are not ready to start when the early rounds are played.

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Why don't more winter based teams enter as this competition is ran as a winter comp but allows all comers to enter. Take out the ncl based teams, 7 teams, plus widnes West Bank, summer nwml, great Clifton, Cumbrian summer league, and the 2 southern based teams which leaves 16 winter based clubs from the hull and Pennines leagues. Why is there so little interest from the teams from these winter based leagues?

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Yeah cost will often be the problem. My own club have not accepted invites into the Challenge cup recently for the same reason. One time you would look forward to battling through to the third round and a big pay day against a pro club but now you could draw Oxford, Gloucester, Hemel or South Wales away and draw a crowd of 200 and not even come anywhere near the cost of your coach. In fact, in some cases, once the pro club have taken out expenses they have been known to tell us there is nothing left to share!

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Nice to see Wath Brow A in the cup again, like to see them have a good run in the cup, apparently they have another good batch of youngsters coming in from last seasons u16s, a few of them have already had a taste on O/A rugby at the end of last season.

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I put it down to the amateur game being in turmoil, lets face it, the BARLA cup started going down hill when the NCL committee put pressure on their own clubs and now a lot of the clubs who would enter have been inducted into the expanding RFL run NCL.

 

This has left the lesser pub teams losing their goal of progressing in the competition so they could have a crack at the NCL teams


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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Cost of an away game is the reason teams dont enter , lots of people within the game dont have a clue what barla , ncl , rfl , stands for and are not bothered .

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Hull to Doncaster and Oldham to Leeds are the only journeys over 20 miles apart from the two southern clubs and probably not one fixture in the north that requires a coach

 

Draw may be regionalised looking at fixtures

 

Blaming BARLA or travel distance just an excuse

 

The lack of numbers applies to the Yorkshire cup too where even less travel

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The game is so diverse in playing standard and the chance of a weak side drawing a top side is greater, in the past you've had seeded rounds which gave the chance of weaker teams to have a little cup run against a side ranked a little bit higher, this just doesn't happen now.

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/

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The Challenge Cup format is weird as well. They won't invite the bottom half of NCL division 1 or runners up in Conference League South but they invite the winners of a Welsh league that only features three first teams (despite the three strongest Welsh amateur clubs playing in CLS) and Aberdeen Warriors who play in no league at all. Either they need to go back to more qualifying rounds or qualifying cups and open up the entry to at least all NCL and CLS clubs and the winners of the local leagues (or top two/four in the heartlands) like they used to or they need to have a more logical criteria for qualification.

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Bath have played in the BARLA National cup before. Watch for announcements in the RL press. Any amateur teams are invited and they publish a closing date for applications. The date was extended this season.

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Steer well clear. Learn your lessons from recent match in Wales!

All the same something to be considered. The Wales games was not just about the result, it gave our players the chance to play in a quality venue under the floodlights, we may well be scheduling another fixture with them later on in the season, could be a lot closer if we retain the bath based players ;)

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Thatto 40 v 14 West Bank. We were missing a good few and we're hoping Thatto won't be quite as strong when their NCL team are playing on the same day.....but that remains to be seen

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