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Would not insurance, following career ending injury, have been covered?  If so then any further salary package would be new money wouldn't it?  In other words Burgess would be effectively been getting paid twice?  

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What is the complication around salary cap discussions? If he has now retired, surely that comes off the cap and he is no longer a Souths player?

I understand that there maybe needs to be protection in place to stop clubs forcing players to retire to avoid this etc. but surely the cap should just be around the players you have playing?

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1 hour ago, Dave T said:

What is the complication around salary cap discussions? If he has now retired, surely that comes off the cap and he is no longer a Souths player?

I understand that there maybe needs to be protection in place to stop clubs forcing players to retire to avoid this etc. but surely the cap should just be around the players you have playing?

The problem is that some star player might have 1 year left in them and a club might only have $300K space in their cap. The club then signs the player to a 3-year deal at $300K/year, the player retires after that year and the club keeps paying them the other $600K - effectively paying them $900K for the year despite only having $300K space in their cap.

The problem isn't clubs forcing players to retire, it's clubs signing long-term contracts which players won't physically be able to fulfill as a way of getting around the salary cap.

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Sounds like more inane, incomprehensible, baseless, contradictory nonsense from Carney.

Players from team’s Academies should be exempt from being counted on the salary cap in an attempt to promote growing the game, keeping our best talent in the sport and in Super League and with the hope it will help the International game, too. 

 

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Just now, Oliver Clothesoff said:

Sounds like more inane, incomprehensible, baseless, contradictory nonsense from Carney.

Players from team’s Academies should be exempt from being counted on the salary cap in an attempt to promote growing the game, keeping our best talent in the sport and in Super League and with the hope it will help the International game, too. 

 

Wrong thread dude!

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5 hours ago, Dave T said:

What is the complication around salary cap discussions? If he has now retired, surely that comes off the cap and he is no longer a Souths player?

I understand that there maybe needs to be protection in place to stop clubs forcing players to retire to avoid this etc. but surely the cap should just be around the players you have playing?

Souths are looking to pay out what was left of his contract. 

However his salary is not guaranteed to be removed from the Souths cap for next year. It is partly down to the timing of his retirement and partly down to the fact that the injury was in effect a pre existing (although I think Souths are arguing that it is not the original injury that forced the retirement but the subsequent infection although there would not be one without the other of course).

If their application is successful then Burgess could get the remainder of his playing deal paid out and this new role and salary. Add in any media deals and he could be in a very good position financially (although I am sure he would have preferred to keep playing).

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

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The NRL approved the medical retirement of Burgess. This means any payment of his remaining contract will not effect the cap.

Also means they may now be in the mix to sign Latrell Mitchell. 

https://www.nrl.com/

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

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