The General 'Toronto Wolfpack' Discussion Thread

[Eddie]

6 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

I don't think Argyle, a man that has failed to pay numerous bills on time over the past three and a half years, a man who has failed to pay player wages on time for the past 6-7 months and has made racist comments to a player in the last year, needs any help in looking the fool.

What are all these failed bill payments that you have details of?

[Hela Wigmen]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

What are all these failed bill payments that you have details of?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/toronto-wolfpack-super-league-wages-late-sonny-bill-williams-visa-553387/amp

[LeytherRob]

Just now, Eddie said:

What are all these failed bill payments that you have details of?

Her are 5 separate instances found of late payments found with a quick google:

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/paper-talk-hull-kr-eye-drinkwater-ikahihifo-and-wardle-swap-toronto-face-winding-up-order/

https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/carter-confirms-caton-browns-transfer-fee-now-paid-1004388

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/salford-launch-legal-action-18988/

https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/toronto-wolfpack-super-league-wages-late-sonny-bill-williams-visa-553387

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/46780440

 

[GUBRATS]

16 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Who knows? We don't have licencing so its all conjecture. Widnes managed it before.

When applying in 2008 the RFL ignored an 85% finished LSV , but we're happy to include a nice drawing of a stadium proposed in Bridgend , and similar at CAS , Wakey and Salford 

We don't trust them , they tell lies , as does Mr Argyle , he has just seen an opportunity to reorganize his club , dumping the unwanted and too expensive , and give his club a chance to remain in SL ,if they play this year they will be relegated , that's why he has gambled , he is now talking about ' junior development ' in Canada to garner support 

Not happy 

[tms]

7 minutes ago, Dave T said:

It should be pointed out that the Visa issue has been resolved, thanks to the RFL, as acknowledged by Bob Hunter. 

what I couldn't understand about the visa anomaly is why didn't the players all go home instead of sitting about in the uk? 

 FEV have 3 in aus and 1 in france so if they had temporary visas they would still be valid 

[Hela Wigmen]

7 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

When applying in 2008 the RFL ignored an 85% finished LSV , but we're happy to include a nice drawing of a stadium proposed in Bridgend , and similar at CAS , Wakey and Salford 

We don't trust them , they tell lies , as does Mr Argyle , he has just seen an opportunity to reorganize his club , dumping the unwanted and too expensive , and give his club a chance to remain in SL ,if they play this year they will be relegated , that's why he has gambled , he is now talking about ' junior development ' in Canada to garner support 

Not happy 

You know it’s twelve years on, don’t you? It’s pure conjecture saying Leigh wouldn’t ever get a place. 

[dboy]

1 minute ago, POR said:

what I couldn't understand about the visa anomaly is why didn't the players all go home instead of sitting about in the uk? 

 FEV have 3 in aus and 1 in france so if they had temporary visas they would still be valid 

They were on 6 month visas, so not run out yet - but would do before the end of the extended season.

[GUBRATS]

2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

You know it’s twelve years on, don’t you? It’s pure conjecture saying Leigh wouldn’t ever get a place. 

Mr Beaumont will leave Leigh if licencing returns , he , like me knows Leigh will never be offered one , I know this because he told me so , he only came back to Leigh ( he rejoined the ownership of Leigh by buying my shares off me ) when on the pitch P and R returned , and will not remain if it ends 

If you tried your best to find a location least suitable to be offered a licence , you would put a pin in the map on Leigh , probably next would be Fev , we are under no illusions , and as Harry and Robin have stated what they will do if it returns , so will I , I did so last time , it took a couple of years , but I lost interest , I attended more away games than home more for a day out than the RL 

[GUBRATS]

10 minutes ago, dboy said:

They were on 6 month visas, so not run out yet - but would do before the end of the extended season.

Then they should have gone home to Canada 

[dboy]

2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Then they should have gone home to Canada 

They don't live in Canada - it's not home.

[GUBRATS]

Just now, dboy said:

They don't live in Canada - it's not home.

Which in a nutshell , IS THE problem 

[dboy]

Just now, GUBRATS said:

Which in a nutshell , IS THE problem 

It's really not.

It was down to the Covid-19 pandemic stopping every source of income they have.

[GUBRATS]

Just now, dboy said:

It's really not.

It was down to the Covid-19 pandemic stopping every source of income they have.

But the fundamental issue with the TORONTO Wolfpack IS they aren't from Canada 

Which other Sports club is based on a different continent to its ' home ' ?

[Kayakman]

42 minutes ago, Dave T said:

It should be pointed out that the Visa issue has been resolved, thanks to the RFL, as acknowledged by Bob Hunter. 

The horse has left the barn.

[dboy]

1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

But the fundamental issue with the TORONTO Wolfpack IS they aren't from Canada 

Which other Sports club is based on a different continent to its ' home ' ?

None that I am aware of - is it a condition of membership?

Why do you describe it as the fundamental issue? Do you understand the phrase?

Fundamentally, TWPs issue is, they don't have the money to complete the season.

[Man of Kent]

22 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Mr Argyle , he has just seen an opportunity to reorganize his club , dumping the unwanted and too expensive , and give his club a chance to remain in SL ,if they play this year they will be relegated , that's why he has gambled , he is now talking about ' junior development ' in Canada to garner support 

That’s an overreading of the situation. I don’t think this is ‘moral hazard’ a la the bankers.

Toronto didn’t have the dollars to continue and withdrew.

They are now on their best behaviour- ‘it’ll be different next time, if you take us back we’ll change etc.’ - because Arygle will get less for his equity if Toronto is a Championship/L1 club when he sells up.

I wouldn’t expect anything less from anyone in that situation.

[Whippet13]

2 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

That’s an overreading of the situation. I don’t think this is ‘moral hazard’ a la the bankers.

Toronto didn’t have the dollars to continue and withdrew.

They are now on their best behaviour- ‘it’ll be different next time, if you take us back we’ll change etc.’ - because Arygle will get less for his equity if Toronto is a Championship/L1 club when he sells up.

I wouldn’t expect anything less from anyone in that situation.

Toronto are a guest club so dont even have a licence to sell, what equity do they have?

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Whippet13 said:

Toronto are a guest club so dont even have a licence to sell, what equity do they have?

When they ' purchase ' west Wales and get their membership and set up an academy there for a couple of years , all will be good

[RobertAM]

12 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

But the fundamental issue with the TORONTO Wolfpack IS they aren't from Canada 

Which other Sports club is based on a different continent to its ' home ' ?

a lot of formula 1 teams

[GUBRATS]

Just now, RobertAM said:

a lot of formula 1 teams

How many home games do they play ?

[RobertAM]

Just now, GUBRATS said:

How many home games do they play ?

mebbe 1 of out of 20..if they have a "home" GP

[dboy]

1 minute ago, RobertAM said:

a lot of formula 1 teams

Only if you consider tracks in individual countries as "home".

F1 teams are generally based in the UK.

Regardless, I refuse to accept F1 as a sport. It's a sham.

[RobertAM]

Just now, dboy said:

Only if you consider tracks in individual countries as "home".

F1 teams are generally based in the UK.

Regardless, I refuse to accept F1 as a sport. It's a sham.

thanks for the insight..I'll stop watching then.

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, RobertAM said:

mebbe 1 of out of 20..if they have a "home" GP

So a stupid answer deserved a stupid question 

Do you want to give any more stupid answers ?

[RobertAM]

Just now, GUBRATS said:

So a stupid answer deserved a stupid question 

Do you want to give any more stupid answers ?

keep those stupid questions coming