Tommygilf Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 hours ago, SL17 said: Just pay off who is costing and bring another three in. Are they short of money? Sack the mismanagement team as reinforcements are in waiting. Perez must be ####### his sides. Paying off people still counts on cap spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 hours ago, SL17 said: Sack the mismanagement team as reinforcements are in waiting. This. Said for the last few years the club had an issue with its choice of administrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: This. Said for the last few years the club had an issue with its choice of administrators. What's wrong with noble? And surely McDermott is a fantastic English coach if not the best one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, aj1908 said: What's wrong with noble? And surely McDermott is a fantastic English coach if not the best one A quick look on Facebook banter pages would suggest there is considerable polarised opinion to your last assumption.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, aj1908 said: And surely McDermott is a fantastic English coach if not the best one I was not talking about coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: I was not talking about coaching staff. so who perez? argyle ? what mistakes have they made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Robin Evans said: A quick look on Facebook banter pages would suggest there is considerable polarised opinion to your last assumption.... Glad we use those as the barometer of society and public opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 06/02/2020 at 13:12, scotchy1 said: No it doesnt. The european schedule doesnt preclude them putting it on at a more convenient time for the Canadian market. When in Rome, when in Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 08/02/2020 at 11:39, usain bolt said: Is it being used for the rochdale players to step up or toronto to step down, the gulf between championship 1 and super league is massive, especially for players that have just come from ncl ranks. If Toronto are relying on this then there'll be a rude awakening for both parties. Which all our friends in Toronto will readily appreciate come the end of the season, if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 08/02/2020 at 14:12, TIWIT said: Leyther feels threatened somehow by TWP. No idea why. Maybe they don't have anything better to do there. I have thought of opening a thread about it but never have. I figure it would get pretty nasty pretty quick. The invitation is wide open TIWIT, please tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Cynic Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 09:58, Dave T said: Indeed. TWP already had their two marquee slots, I believe by Lussick and Leutele, let's assume that they were on £3-400k, according to the reports around at the time. So, before they signed SBW, they had 22 players, and a maximum spend of £1.7-£1.8m (versus a cap of £2.1m) - so they had £3-400k to recruit three players to fill their squad. We know those sums work out because when they signed SBW, one of their other marquee's had their salary included, so they must have had this amount available on the cap. So instead of filling their squad with three decent players on £100k+ each, they went down the route of signing another marquee player, meaning they are now spending a silly amount of cap space on either Lussick or Leutele. It is easy to see why the other clubs lack sympathy here. This wasn't an unfortunate balancing of books gone wrong, they actively made this decision to go down this route and spend up with 23 players. And then ask for more. Now I am supportive of a higher cap based on the things I have previously highlighted (weighting and youth dispensation) but let's not make out that TWP have 23 players because they had to pay over the odds for Matty Russell. They had 23 players because they chose to sign a 3rd marquee when they already had 2. That is poor squad management. The signing of SBW should be applauded, hopefully it encourages other clubs to be more bold with signings in future, but it has come at the expense of being able to sign a full squad. That is a hell of a brave move. Has it been confirmed that the permission of Messrs.Hudgell & Co. were obtained about this signing as the religious beliefs of SBW may have affected sponsorship - of the main non-broadcast sponsor? 2 hours ago, aj1908 said: so who perez? argyle ? what mistakes have they made I think the doubts may be about Vickers and Noble.Past experience. No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 08/02/2020 at 22:23, Dave T said: Rod Studd enjoys a bit of provocation.... Is that true, do TWP have the biggest wage bill ever? And if so in true Oliver Twist fashion they say, "Can I have some more please Sir" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Is that true, do TWP have the biggest wage bill ever? And if so in true Oliver Twist fashion they say, "Can I have some more please Sir" If they are at full cap, with SBW on a reported £2.5m and another marquee on, say £400k, then that would mean their spend could be up to £4.7m. I think it is a fair argument to say that if you have spent £4.7m on a squad and ended up with a 23 man squad then you haven't done your sums quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 09/02/2020 at 11:30, bobbruce said: That doesn’t work as has been pointed out money isn’t the issue salary cap space is. So effectively TWP could’ve signed two run of the mill players on £75k each or SBW with all the publicity that has brought them. Under the Rules in force, Lowdessert is correct, completely bad management on TWP's part, come the end of the season if TWP are relegated all the media interest in SBW will have done them no good whatsoever, would you thrown you all your eggs into the SBW basket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dave T said: If they are at full cap, with SBW on a reported £2.5m and another marquee on, say £400k, then that would mean their spend could be up to £4.7m. I think it is a fair argument to say that if you have spent £4.7m on a squad and ended up with a 23 man squad then you haven't done your sums quite right. Haters gonna hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Angelic Cynic said: Has it been confirmed that the permission of Messrs.Hudgell & Co. were obtained about this signing as the religious beliefs of SBW may have affected sponsorship - of the main non-broadcast sponsor? I think the doubts may be about Vickers and Noble.Past experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I see Saints have got the South Stand for their game at the Halliwell Jones vs Toronto. That’ll look great live on Sky...! https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2020/02/11/toronto-wolfpack-vs-saints-ticket-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dave T said: If they are at full cap, with SBW on a reported £2.5m and another marquee on, say £400k, then that would mean their spend could be up to £4.7m. I think it is a fair argument to say that if you have spent £4.7m on a squad and ended up with a 23 man squad then you haven't done your sums quite right. But, still within the cap remit at £300K contribution for SBW and A.N, Other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: But, still within the cap remit at £300K contribution for SBW and A.N, Other? Yes, I did my sums on £175k each marquee actually, but the point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I see Saints have got the South Stand for their game at the Halliwell Jones vs Toronto. That’ll look great live on Sky...! https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2020/02/11/toronto-wolfpack-vs-saints-ticket-news/ Do you think it likely that Saints fans will treat this like a home game and try and pack the terrace with 'away' fans? Wonder what we will get for this, could be anything from 3k to 10k tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave T said: Yes, I did my sums on £175k each marquee actually, but the point stands. Would that be £2.5 million for the season, just one season! if so and he played every minute of each of the 29 fixtures that would be over a £1000 per minute, not bad for a guy with a lot to proove, i.e. what he now is, not what he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave T said: Do you think it likely that Saints fans will treat this like a home game and try and pack the terrace with 'away' fans? Wonder what we will get for this, could be anything from 3k to 10k tbh! Will Wire fans attend do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Will Wire fans attend do you think? I wouldn't personally tbh, but I wonder if they will do an offer for Wire season ticket holders to go and support the Wolfpack or something? Wire are away, so who knows, but not sure it is a massive draw to Wire fans, apart from being in their town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I see Saints have got the South Stand for their game at the Halliwell Jones vs Toronto. That’ll look great live on Sky...! https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2020/02/11/toronto-wolfpack-vs-saints-ticket-news/ Will it make your crowd counting more difficult ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Will it make your crowd counting more difficult ? never gets old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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