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16 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

I'm not spinning it anyway. 

Newcastle being replaced by saracens would likely see a huge increase next year for the RU 2nd tier

Bradford playing in dewsbury and say Leigh going up and being replaced by Saford would likely see a huge fall.in the RL 2nd tier.

Would 2nd tier RU have suddenly become more popular and the RL one less? Obviously not. 

The average attendance for the 2nd tier tells us little because the outliers have such a vast effect on it

You don’t pick and chose which teams you include when working out an average attendance. Yes there are outliers, but it’s like saying Scottish attendances are small if you exclude Celtic and Rangers. 

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19 minutes ago, Eddie said:

You don’t pick and chose which teams you include when working out an average attendance. Yes there are outliers, but it’s like saying Scottish attendances are small if you exclude Celtic and Rangers. 

It's not Eddie in fairness because "Scottish attendance" will always include both Celtic and Rangers even if one or other for whatever season is out of the top flight whereas Scottish Premier League attendance will vary in such circumstances.

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4 hours ago, JohnM said:

It's not like that. It vitally important that the numbers are right, for example  in case of an evacuation emergency. 

A club knowing the literal occupancy of the ground for an emergency, and the reported attendance of any game (usually # of tickets sold), are two very different things.

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8 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

Scottish attendances are small if you exclude celtic and rangers. 

To use your analogy it would be like comparing the scottish premier the year before rangers were promoted to the year after and then thinking scottish premier football had suddenly become incredibly popular

No it wouldn’t. 

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37 minutes ago, meast said:

Yes, but the clubs can announce whatever attendance figures they choose.

Do you mean that they are able to do so or that theY do actually misreport the figures. If so, isn't there a word for that.

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9 minutes ago, meast said:

Clubs have to give an official figure based on the actual amount of people through the gates, but they can and do announce different figures

Who says they have to provide an official figure? Is it not just convention to announce something?

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On 23/06/2020 at 12:32, scotchy1 said:

I'm not spinning it anyway. 

Newcastle being replaced by saracens would likely see a huge increase next year for the RU 2nd tier

Bradford playing in dewsbury and say Leigh going up and being replaced by Saford would likely see a huge fall.in the RL 2nd tier.

Would 2nd tier RU have suddenly become more popular and the RL one less? Obviously not. 

The average attendance for the 2nd tier tells us little because the outliers have such a vast effect on it

Saracens average in reality around 7/8000 in the championship they will be lucky to get 5000 so not much change .

 

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13 minutes ago, M j M said:

Who says they have to provide an official figure? Is it not just convention to announce something?

I mean they have to disclose for health and safety reasons, amongst others, so there could be 5,000 in attendance but the announced attendance could include  unused season tickets for example and be 8,000

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