Mon 2 AugL SL: Hull FC v St Helens KO 7.45pm (TV)

[Waynebennettswinger]

Saints look fresher for obvious reasons, glad to see Hull up the tempo before half time, they are still in this but need Reynolds and Sneyd to manage the game better.

[Waynebennettswinger]

2 minutes ago, MZH said:

I turned off in disgust for 10 minutes but then couldn't help but flicking it back on

Saints should be 22 (or 20 since it was a tough conversion) up. Nothing wrong with that contest. Then a little bit more fortune with that Hull try. I wouldn't say it's a lifeline. We are second best by a long way. At least it gives us something to play for in the second half though.

Laughing at you turning back on pal, we’ve all done it I’m sure. The VR call was harsh, especially as sent up as a try but such is life. Glad to see Hull upping the tempo late in the half, just close enough to stay in it for now.

[MZH]

1 minute ago, Waynebennettswinger said:

Laughing at you turning back on pal, we’ve all done it I’m sure. The VR call was harsh, especially as sent up as a try but such is life. Glad to see Hull upping the tempo late in the half, just close enough to stay in it for now.

It's just so frustrating to see us looking so limp in recent weeks after what was a really promising start to the season. I know we are missing some important players but we look miles away from being a team that can compete at the top. At least we are showing some fighting spirit though.

[Waynebennettswinger]

1 minute ago, MZH said:

It's just so frustrating to see us looking so limp in recent weeks after what was a really promising start to the season. I know we are missing some important players but we look miles away from being a team that can compete at the top. At least we are showing some fighting spirit though.

Every season Hull are my dark horses…that either shows my lack of knowledge or that Hull flatter to deceive. Anyway here’s hoping that late surge pushes Hull on so we can watch a better second half.

One thing that does stand out to me, Saints desperation in defence. That effort to push players back even when they are well up on the scoreboard. The desperate efforts to tackle in to touch or to stop Swift grounding. If Hull match that then this could be a game.

 

[Padge]

On the contested kick no-try, I believe you are not allowed to steal the ball off a player who is in the air following a kick.

[dkw]

2 minutes ago, Padge said:

On the contested kick no-try, I believe you are not allowed to steal the ball off a player who is in the air following a kick.

It wasn't a steal, it was 2 players getting the ball at the same time.

[Just Browny]

He's dropped that Fonua reason.

[Padge]

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

It wasn't a steal, it was 2 players getting the ball at the same time.

The Hull player had hold of the ball first, it was only very briefly but that is slo-mo for you.

[Padge]

... and that Hull try as I was posting should be disallowed.

[dkw]

Just now, Padge said:

The Hull player had hold of the ball first, it was only very briefly but that is slo-mo for you.

Come on, they both competed for it and one managed to get it thrown backwards.  It's a joke that was given as a penalty. 

[MZH]

We only seems likely to score from kicks but I'll take it for now. Little bit of hope.

[Padge]

Just now, dkw said:

Come on, they both competed for it and one managed to get it thrown backwards.  It's a joke that was given as a penalty. 

Which other things should we ignore (I know we ignore a lot but what should be added to the list).

[Just Browny]

Shame MZH switched off, it's livened up this.

[Waynebennettswinger]

Big let off for Saints there, Hull desperately unlucky with the kick just running out 

[Padge]

Just now, Just Browny said:

Shame MZH switched off, it's livened up this.

He's switched back on, do keep up.

[MZH]

Just now, Just Browny said:

Shame MZH switched off, it's livened up this.

Like I said earlier I couldn't stay away. We've looked much better this second half, if only that ball bounces a bit kinder for Faraimo. It's the hope that kills you though.

[dkw]

Like last night sin bin for that kind of thing is far too harsh. 

[MZH]

Cheers Johnstone

I certainly hope a hooker is right at the top of Hodgson's shopping list for 2022.

[Saint 1]

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Like last night sin bin for that kind of thing is far too harsh. 

On that particular one perhaps, but that's only cause he didn't execute the late hit particularly effectively 

[MZH]

Just now, dkw said:

Like last night sin bin for that kind of thing is far too harsh. 

Whilst I do think the game is getting a little soft at time, that was cheap from Johnstone. He's got his back turned and the ball is gone. Wasn't massively late, but I've not got any complaints.

[M j M]

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Like last night sin bin for that kind of thing is far too harsh. 

Nah the game has a commitment to protect players. if the consequences are too harsh, players will eventually learn to stop going over the line.

[jacksy]

4 minutes ago, MZH said:

Cheers Johnstone

I certainly hope a hooker is right at the top of Hodgson's shopping list for 2022.

He's certainly cost us any chance of winning.

[dkw]

2 minutes ago, MZH said:

Whilst I do think the game is getting a little soft at time, that was cheap from Johnstone. He's got his back turned and the ball is gone. Wasn't massively late, but I've not got any complaints.

Was barely late at all, sky showing it in slow motion doesn't help. It's not a blatant late hit on a prone player like we do see sometimes, it's barely even left his hands and he's tackled. Give a penalty, fair enough but never a sin bin for that.

[Man of Kent]

Well, that’s it. After 20 minutes it looked for all the world that Hull would be taking a spanking but fair play to them for sticking in there and making a game of it. 

[jacksy]

3 minutes ago, dkw said:

Was barely late at all, sky showing it in slow motion doesn't help. It's not a blatant late hit on a prone player like we do see sometimes, it's barely even left his hands and he's tackled. Give a penalty, fair enough but never a sin bin for that.

Hate the slo-mo stuff..makes everything look 5m late.