Mike Cooper : Season ending injury. (Merged Threads)

[hullste]

14 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

Wow

My point is every team defends their players, even when others feel it is indefensible. If that type of tackle is considered reckless and dangerous then it should be met with a long ban regardless of the injury suffered because they all have the potential to cause serious injury.

[Dunbar]

5 minutes ago, hullste said:

If that type of tackle is considered reckless and dangerous then it should be met with a long ban regardless of the injury suffered because they all have the potential to cause serious injury.

Completely agree with this.  The action is what should be punished, not the outcome.'

And that is not to say that Knowles' ban is too harsh - the other hip drop tackles should be punished the same as it is pure luck when they don't cause serious injury.

[haskey]

The point is it DID cause serious injury.

[Dunbar]

27 minutes ago, haskey said:

The point is it DID cause serious injury.

If you think foul play should be punished more based on the injury caused then fair enough. 

My view is that with tackles like that, injury incurred (or not) is really down to chance and so all such tackles should be heavily punished.

[StandOffHalf]

These dangerous and cowardly tackles must be eradicated.

[Phil]

13 hours ago, Dunbar said:

If you think foul play should be punished more based on the injury caused then fair enough.

Yes, absolutely 

[Dave T]

13 hours ago, Dunbar said:

If you think foul play should be punished more based on the injury caused then fair enough. 

My view is that with tackles like that, injury incurred (or not) is really down to chance and so all such tackles should be heavily punished.

 

5 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yes, absolutely 

I think this is a real challenge, and tbh my instinct is to agree with Phil. However I think that brings it's problems. What if we don't have scans back before sentencing? What if diagnosis is not accurate? 

That brings us back to Dunbar's approach that we should be harsh on these tackles, and tbh, we have watered down the punishments, so this is the outcome we are getting. We seem to deem these tackles serious enough for 1 or 2 matches. 

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

On 13/04/2023 at 14:26, Kenilworth Tiger said:

I saw that - Joe Westerman showed up shortly afterwards

And that bloke from Red Dwarf....what was his name?

[Dunbar]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Yes, absolutely 

I understand the sentiment but in the cold light of day I think it just introduces too much of a lottery.

We see so many innocuous incidents in Rugby League result in injury while some horrific tackles (cannonballs, hip drops, spear tackles) result in, thankfully, no injury.

I genuinely believe that the only way you can punish foul play fairly - and significantly - is to punish the action and not the outcome.