Gold Coast titans sign wallabies star

[Sports Prophet]

On 14/06/2024 at 10:23, unapologetic pedant said:

Headlines are here today gone tomorrow.

NRL will only overtake AFL when elite schools are playing League.

RL has too much of a “bogan” image, so much so I am surprised the PNG team isn’t being proposed for Buka over Port Moresby.

RL will never crack the elite Sydney and Brisbane schools.

[Sports Prophet]

2 hours ago, Damien said:

Both players released early:

I think Mark has an Olympic gold to compete for before heading to Bondi.

[unapologetic pedant]

5 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

RL has too much of a “bogan” image,

RL will never crack the elite Sydney and Brisbane schools.

The image would change if League were played in elite schools.

Some posters appear to think RL exists to "raid the ranks" of RU. 

[Sports Prophet]

1 hour ago, unapologetic pedant said:

The image would change if League were played in elite schools.

Some posters appear to think RL exists to "raid the ranks" of RU. 

But it won’t happen, there is over 100 years of hegemony preventing the working class sport from entering the system, so it’s not a strategy worth entertaining. Especially when the NRL clubs cherry pick much of the best players on scholarships anyway.

I think an active campaign to cherry pick the best of RU is a good strategy as well, on the proviso the players turn out to be a success. 

On 14/06/2024 at 10:11, Anita Bath said:

Not one of them was a wallaby. 

Who was the last Wallaby to make it to Origin or Kangaroos after switching codes. I am thinking Michael OConnor over 40 years ago. Surely I must have missed someone.

Ricky Stuart toured Argentina with Wallabies but never played a test…switching codes in 1988.

Scott Gourley played 5 tests for Wallabies and then one game for Kangaroos v PNG in 1991.

So lets not expect to find the next Dally Messenger from the current list of Wallabies.

so you’ve demonstrated successful examples of crossover (Wallaby or not). It’s not like the NRL have a long history of failed pro RU converts. We are starting to see this happening again for the first time since RU went pro.

I would say the last player to convert successfully would be the current Leeds FB Lachie Miller.

[Futtocks]

10 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

But it won’t happen, there is over 100 years of hegemony preventing the working class sport from entering the system, so it’s not a strategy worth entertaining. Especially when the NRL clubs cherry pick much of the best players on scholarships anyway.

I think an active campaign to cherry pick the best of RU is a good strategy as well, on the proviso the players turn out to be a success. 

so you’ve demonstrated successful examples of crossover (Wallaby or not). It’s not like the NRL have a long history of failed pro RU converts. We are starting to see this happening again for the first time since RU went pro.

I would say the last player to convert successfully would be the current Leeds FB Lachie Miller.

The way things are going, the Wallabies are going to be selecting players from a shrinking talent pool, with the NRL keeping closer tabs on school talent. That means fewer capped Australian RU players will end up in the NRL.

But there are always late developers, so it isn't impossible.

[Jonty58]

13 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

RL has too much of a “bogan” image, so much so I am surprised the PNG team isn’t being proposed for Buka over Port Moresby.

RL will never crack the elite Sydney and Brisbane schools.

I was under the impression that Rugby League is starting to get a foothold in many private schools.

Maybe not the very elite but certainly expensive private colleges.

There have been many League players that have come from that school background that played Union for school and club league at the same time to the point that Rugby League is now being an option for School sport.

 

Michael Croker, Dylan Napa and Jayson Bukuya all came out of St Patrick’s College Brisbane.

[Anita Bath]

8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

But it won’t happen, there is over 100 years of hegemony preventing the working class sport from entering the system, so it’s not a strategy worth entertaining. Especially when the NRL clubs cherry pick much of the best players on scholarships anyway.

I think an active campaign to cherry pick the best of RU is a good strategy as well, on the proviso the players turn out to be a success. 

so you’ve demonstrated successful examples of crossover (Wallaby or not). It’s not like the NRL have a long history of failed pro RU converts. We are starting to see this happening again for the first time since RU went pro.

I would say the last player to convert successfully would be the current Leeds FB Lachie Miller.

Demonstrated very limited examples ….from over 20 years ago.

[The Future is League]

15 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

RL has too much of a “bogan” image, so much so I am surprised the PNG team isn’t being proposed for Buka over Port Moresby.

RL will never crack the elite Sydney and Brisbane schools.

You really wouldn't want me to post a list of bogan AFL players over the years would you?

Edited July 2, 2024 by The Future is League

[The Rocket]

12 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

You really wouldn't want me to post a list of bogan AFL players over the years would you?

I think fumbleball`s most recognized image is pale skinny white blokes with pencil necks and arms.

[Pulga]

Rugby League doesn't need to be played in private schools. It's precisely why union is hated in this country. 

 

[Sports Prophet]

2 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

Demonstrated very limited examples ….from over 20 years ago.

Yeah, but give me an example of the number of ex Wallaby’s in the last 20 years to give it a shot. Still, very limited examples.

I can’t demonstrate a long list of successes if there hasn’t been a long list of attempts.

[Sports Prophet]

2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

You really wouldn't want me to post a list of bogan AFL players over the years would you?

If you did it wouldn’t bother me, nor detract from my point. It would certainly be off topic of you though.

If you feel compelled to, throw a list on that AFL thread we converse on. That would be the best place for it.

Edited July 2, 2024 by Sports Prophet

[unapologetic pedant]

2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

You really wouldn't want me to post a list of bogan AFL players over the years would you?

Yes please.

[unapologetic pedant]

12 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

But it won’t happen, there is over 100 years of hegemony preventing the working class sport from entering the system, so it’s not a strategy worth entertaining. 

Lots of things won't happen and can't happen. Right up to the point that they happen.

In the early-mid 90s, experts were still insisting RU would never go pro.

[unapologetic pedant]

2 hours ago, Pulga said:

Rugby League doesn't need to be played in private schools. It's precisely why union is hated in this country. 

And precisely why NRL exerts less influence in the upper echelons of society than AFL.

[Pulga]

50 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:

And precisely why NRL exerts less influence in the upper echelons of society than AFL.

Not at all. The big problem is Australia's media all comes out of Melbourne. It's not a schooling thing but geographic.

[unapologetic pedant]

11 minutes ago, Pulga said:

Not at all. The big problem is Australia's media all comes out of Melbourne. It's not a schooling thing but geographic.

Whingers on BigFumble claim everything comes out of Sydney, orchestrated by "media tart V'landys".

[The Future is League]

15 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:

Whingers on BigFumble claim everything comes out of Sydney, orchestrated by "media tart V'landys".

Fumbleball fans on big footy. have a huge fear of Peter V'landys. 

[Sports Prophet]

42 minutes ago, Pulga said:

Not at all. The big problem is Australia's media all comes out of Melbourne. It's not a schooling thing but geographic.

That’s simply not true. Fake news as they say.

Edited July 2, 2024 by Sports Prophet

[Sports Prophet]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-03/nrl-carter-gordon-gold-coast-titans-wallabies-rugby-union/104054460
 

had his first training session and could play as early as next weekend in Qld Cup.

[The Rocket]

On 02/07/2024 at 21:52, Pulga said:

Not at all. The big problem is Australia's media all comes out of Melbourne. It's not a schooling thing but geographic.

 

On 02/07/2024 at 22:28, Sports Prophet said:

That’s simply not true. Fake news as they say.

I tell you one thing that is a dead eye cert , a lot of their sports `chat` shows on our national broadcaster the ABC are definitely fumbleball centric, some of the hosts seem to even have a hard time saying the words `Rugby League`, it`s like asking them to say a dirty word. 

This latest show `Monday Experts` on prime-time monday nights is hosted by the ever politically correct and pea-brained ex-fumbleball player somebody Armstrong, it`s fumbleball this and fumbleball that, any angle they can bring it in on. I gave it one episode.

Thank god no one watches the ABC.

[Sports Prophet]

7 hours ago, The Rocket said:

 

I tell you one thing that is a dead eye cert , a lot of their sports `chat` shows on our national broadcaster the ABC are definitely fumbleball centric, some of the hosts seem to even have a hard time saying the words `Rugby League`, it`s like asking them to say a dirty word. 

This latest show `Monday Experts` on prime-time monday nights is hosted by the ever politically correct and pea-brained ex-fumbleball player somebody Armstrong, it`s fumbleball this and fumbleball that, any angle they can bring it in on. I gave it one episode.

Thank god no one watches the ABC.

So you tell us the ABC has a leaning to AFL (which I agree with) and this constitutes all the Australian media? No way. Press and TV are predominantly Sydney.