How may grounds have you been to which are of near 21st century standard?

[ParisSurtout]

Just a bit of a twist on the old "how many grounds have you been to?" topics we've had in the past.

How many grounds in the northern hemisphere have you been to to watch rugby league which have a panoramic view of the playing field from at least one sideline stand, and which have decent toilet facilities (extensive urinals and sit down closed cubicles for men, and multiple sit down enclosed cubicles for women)?

I have been to most of those:

KC in Hull

DW in Wigan

Galpharm in Huddersfield

Gilbert Brutus in Perpignan

Ernest Wallon in Toulouse

Elland Road in Leeds

The Stoop in London

Twickenham in London

Wembley in London

Murrayfield in Edinburgh

Milllenium in Cardiff

The fact is that all of these other than Gilbert Brutus are dual use or triple use (football, rugby union, rugby league), with Wembley being multi use and Tickenham being primarily rugby union and Elland Road primarily soccer.

So of all the Super League clubs stadia only Gilbert Brutus is a dedicated rugby league stadium with modern facilities appropriate for the 21st century. It will be joined by the new St Helens stadium in 2012.

How many have a decent restaurant or seated cafes, as well as a large bars?

None for the general fan (DW and Galpharm have modern restaurant facilities for the special elite), Wembley and Twickenham for members, but Gilbert Brutus in 2011 and St Helens in 2012 will have modern restaurant and bars for all premium seated fans.

Alll of this shows how backward rugby league is in looking after their fans' convenience. Bravo only to Les Catalans and St Helens. Gentle pat on the back to Wigan, Hull FC, Huddersfield, Warrington and Harlequins. Shame on the rest.

Edited August 1, 2010 by ParisSurtout

[terrywebbisgod]

yawn

[Bomb Jack]

yawn

Took the word right out of my mouth...........

[terrywebbisgod]

Just a bit of a twist on the old "how many grounds have you been to?" topics we've had in the past.

How many grounds in the northern hemisphere have you been to to watch rugby league which have a panoramic view from at least one sideline stand, and which have decent toilet facilities ((extensive urinals and sit down closed cubicles for men)?

I have been to most of those:

KC in Hull

DW in Wigan

Galpharm in Huddersfield

Gilbert Brutus in Perpignan

Ernest Wallon in Toulouse

Elland Road in Leeds

The Stoop in London

Twickenham in London

Wembley in London

Murrayfield in Edinburgh

Milllenium in Cardiff

The fact is that all of these other than Gilbert Brutus are dual use or triple use (football, rugby union, rugby league), with Wembley being multi use and Tickenham being primarily rugby union and Elland Road primarily soccer.

So of all the Super League clubs stadia only Gilbert Brutus is a dedicated rugby league stadium with modern facilities appropriate for the 21st century. It will be joined by the new St Helens stadium in 2012.

How many have a decent restaurant or seated cafes, as well as a large bars?

None for the general fan (DW and Galpharm have modern restaurant facilities for the special elite), Wembley and Twickenham for members, but Gilbert Brutus in 2011 and St Helens in 2012 will have modern restaurant and bars for all premium seated fans.

Alll of ths shows how backward rugby league is in looking after their fans' convenience. Bravo only to Les Catalans and St Helens. Shame on the rest.

You are Angela Powers and I claim my

[ParisSurtout]

Good to see the fans of Championship clubs --- present and future -- are so willing to yawn up. I guess that is why they will always be mere Championship club fans.

Edited July 31, 2010 by ParisSurtout

[hindle xiii]

Took the word right out of my mouth...........

You are MeatLoaf and I claim my

[ParisSurtout]

What this thread establishes is that Les Catalans and St Helens are the cutting edge clubs of 21st century quality for the consumer--- i.e. the rugby league fan.

[terrywebbisgod]

Most of the grounds you have been to do not hold regular rugby league games.

[ShotgunGold]

I've been to the Rungrado May Day Stadium, and that my friend is what you call a damn stadium!

Watching rugby league with a sell-out crowd there on a Friday night is as good as it gets.

[ParisSurtout]

Most of the grounds you have been to do not hold regular rugby league games.

DW, KC and Galpharm do (they also hold other sports' events), and Gilbert Brutus does.

[terrywebbisgod]

DW, KC and Galpharm do (they also hold other sports' events), and Gilbert Brutus does.

If you notice I said MOST not ALL

[goldcard]

Panoramic view?

Roll me one will you....

Basic answer to your question,4.

[ParisSurtout]

If you notice I said MOST not ALL

Fair point. But it reinforces the point of my original posting. Only Catalans and St Helens will soon be taking care of their fans in a modern and civilised manner. Perhaps Salford will join them with Barton in 2012 (I hope so).

Edited July 31, 2010 by ParisSurtout

[ParisSurtout]

Panoramic view?

Roll me one will you....

I am referring to a panoramic view of the playing field. TV telecasters demand this for their viewers, and the more discerning fans have a right to demand it as well.

[terrywebbisgod]

Fair point. But it reinforces the point of my original posting. Only Catalans and St Helens will soon be taking care of their fans in a modern and civilised manner. Perhaps Salford will join them with Barton in 2012 (I hope so).

So you'd rather judge a game for it's facilities rather than the product on the field, bad stadia and getting soaked are what Rugby League is all about, not prawn sandwiches and cafes.

[ParisSurtout]

So you'd rather judge a game for it's facilities rather than the product on the field, bad stadia and getting soaked are what Rugby League is all about, not prawn sandwiches and cafes.

We already have a great product on the field. We need to have the fan facilities that so many Australians take for granted.

Nobody wants to get soaked, especially women and children. That is why the RFL is demanding a covered stadium as one criterion for SL license qualification

Edited July 31, 2010 by ParisSurtout

[terrywebbisgod]

We already have a great product on the field. We need to have the fan facilities that so many Australians take for granted.

Nobody wants to get soaked, especially women and children. That is why the RFL is demanding a covered stadium as one criterion for SL license qualification

So why is it when I see the NRL on tv, most of the speccies look like drowned rats during a game, all wearing ponchos?

[Lee]

So why is it when I see the NRL on tv, most of the speccies look like drowned rats during a game, all wearing ponchos?

Cos all their stadia bar the big Sydney multi stadia are ###### uncovered hovels

[terrywebbisgod]

Cos all their stadia bar the big Sydney multi stadia are ###### uncovered hovels

So what is PS banging on about?

[goldcard]

I am referring to a panoramic view of the playing field. TV telecasters demand this for their viewers, and the more discerning fans have a right to demand it as well.

So define what your "panoramic" view is?

If it's a full unobstructed view of the entire playing area, no stantions (really big spelling query on that) in the way, or a nice view of the sky like new panoramic windscreens (yeah, they'll be safe if you roll the car...).

[boxhead]

Cos all their stadia bar the big Sydney multi stadia are ###### uncovered hovels

REALLY?

I never realised Brisbane and Melbourne were like that.

They say Suncorp does not measure up to the "Jungle"

Edited July 31, 2010 by AndyCapp

[Lee]

So what is PS banging on about?

Usual male genitals, dont quote him ffs, only saw your post

[Lee]

REALLY?

I never realised Brisbane and Melbourne were like that.

They say Suncorp does not measure up to the "Jungle"

I was using Sydney clubs to base it on not the 2 you mentioned, my bad

[ShotgunGold]

So define what your "panoramic" view is?

Forget what he means by 'panoramic', I want the toilet situation cleared up first!

and which have decent toilet facilities (extensive urinals and sit down closed cubicles for men, and multiple sit down enclosed cubicles for women)?

Is there a limit to how many urinals a toilet must have for it to be of 21st century quality? Must all toilets in the ground have extensive urinals or would a simple single urinal not do for smaller toilets? And what do you mean by multiple? If a club doesn't attract many lady fans must there be multiple sit down enclosed cubicles for women or would one just be enough? Could a ground be regarded as 'Super League' standard if it only possesses one sit down enclosed cubicle? How to Toulouse do when it comes to extensive urinals and multiple cubicles?

[amm]

Forget what he means by 'panoramic', I want the toilet situation cleared up first!

me too!

bragging about French toilets seems a bit rich to me

and burning question IZAL or Andrex and should we deduct points for none available?