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My old school choir. Okay, one of the schools I attended, at least. And while I never made the first team, as it were, I was in the reserves, and did perform with them a few times a year.

 

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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On 01/12/2017 at 11:52 PM, Futtocks said:

 

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Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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On 12/1/2017 at 10:34 PM, Futtocks said:

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Gaudete is one of my all time favourite Christmas toons and Erasure did a very good version of it which gets played a lot by me at this time of year, but not quite as much as this jolly little number by the King of Christmas Past, Perry Como.

 


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On 16/12/2017 at 00:29, Futtocks said:

My old school choir. Okay, one of the schools I attended, at least. And while I never made the first team, as it were, I was in the reserves, and did perform with them a few times a year.

 

I must have missed this thread two years ago, but am catching up now.  A heartfelt 'thank you', Futtocks, for selecting this, which I have been lucky enough to sing a couple of times; a quite brilliant piece.

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On 12/12/2017 at 08:14, Trojan said:

 

or there's always (for those of us from Yorkshire that is)

 

I seemed to miss this thread in 2017, so belated thanks for these two versions of While shepherds watched.  I haven't heard the Maddy Prior tune before

You might like to know that attendees at the annual village carol service in the village of Whiteparish near Salisbury (tomorrow - Sunday, 22nd - at 6pm) will hear this text sung to the tune used by the Stamford Bridge Singers. 

To be honest, it has nothing to do with Yorkshire, other than subsequent use of the tune for the song, Ilkley Moor.  The words are by Nahum Tate, a Dubliner who settled in London, and the tune is a hymn tune used for this and other texts, from the pen of Thomas Clark, a Canterbury boot and shoe maker.  He gave the tune the title Cranbrook, which is a village a few miles east of Tunbridge Wells, and so still in Kent, I'm afraid!

At one time, when these matters were tightly regulated by the established church authorities, While shepherds watched was the only, Christmas-related text which could be set to music.  This explains why so many tunes have been noted in use with this text.

There is an outstandingly good, Yorkshire one.  It was written by John Foster (d 1822) of High Green, Ecclesfield, near Sheffield, who was a keen amateur musician, but a coroner by profession.  The Taverner Choir & Players give a very spirited performance of it on YouTube.

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12 hours ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

I seemed to miss this thread in 2017, so belated thanks for these two versions of While shepherds watched.  I haven't heard the Maddy Prior tune before

You might like to know that attendees at the annual village carol service in the village of Whiteparish near Salisbury (tomorrow - Sunday, 22nd - at 6pm) will hear this text sung to the tune used by the Stamford Bridge Singers. 

To be honest, it has nothing to do with Yorkshire, other than subsequent use of the tune for the song, Ilkley Moor.  The words are by Nahum Tate, a Dubliner who settled in London, and the tune is a hymn tune used for this and other texts, from the pen of Thomas Clark, a Canterbury boot and shoe maker.  He gave the tune the title Cranbrook, which is a village a few miles east of Tunbridge Wells, and so still in Kent, I'm afraid!

At one time, when these matters were tightly regulated by the established church authorities, While shepherds watched was the only, Christmas-related text which could be set to music.  This explains why so many tunes have been noted in use with this text.

There is an outstandingly good, Yorkshire one.  It was written by John Foster (d 1822) of High Green, Ecclesfield, near Sheffield, who was a keen amateur musician, but a coroner by profession.  The Taverner Choir & Players give a very spirited performance of it on YouTube.

The tune is called Cranbbrook, the Ilkley Moor words were, so it is said made up by a choir on a trip to Dick Hudsons - a hostelry on Ilkley Moor.  The Maddy Prior tune is called Lydia, and is in the Methodist Hymn Book. Also used for O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing.  There is another tune in the MHB called Lyngham.

 

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What i don`t get is xmas no 1`s  being played at xmas when they have no connection to the actual season . East 17`s "stay another day " being a case in point , no mention at all in the lyrics , but just because they dressed up in white parkas and threw a bit of snow about doesn`t make it a xmas record.....stop playing it !

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On 22/12/2019 at 00:30, RL does what Sky says said:

I wonder why we never hear the 1969 Christmas number one on the radio at this time of year !!! 😉

"Have you guessed what it is yet ?"

I can think of two reasons:

1. It's by a convicted sex offender.

2. It's absolutely bleddy terrible.


And when they found our shadows

Grouped around the TV sets

They ran down every lead

They repeated every test

They checked out all the data on their lists

And then the alien anthropologists

Admitted they were still perplexed

But on eliminating every other reason

For our sad demise

They logged the only explanation left

This species has amused itself to death

No tears to cry no feelings left

This species has amused itself to death

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On 22/12/2019 at 11:38, Trojan said:

The tune is called Cranbbrook, the Ilkley Moor words were, so it is said made up by a choir on a trip to Dick Hudsons - a hostelry on Ilkley Moor.  The Maddy Prior tune is called Lydia, and is in the Methodist Hymn Book. Also used for O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing.  There is another tune in the MHB called Lyngham.

 

Thanks for an excellent post, Trojan.  I didn't know about the alleged origin of the Ilkley Moor words, though I have been in Dick Hudson's a time or two, as I have friends in Eldwick.  Thanks for the name of the Maddy Prior tune and for the clip of Lyngham, which I have heard mentioned before, but never heard the tune.

You (and others) might well enjoy Andrew Gant's very readable paperback Christmas Carols if you haven't already come across it.  It has an entire chapter on While shepherds watched, which is maybe not surprising, given that it was the only legally permitted Christmas music text for church use for much of the 18th century!

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On 22/12/2017 at 13:13, John Drake said:

Gaudete is one of my all time favourite Christmas toons and Erasure did a very good version of it which gets played a lot by me at this time of year, but not quite as much as this jolly little number by the King of Christmas Past, Perry Como.

 

John, there is an excellent version of Gaudete by The Sixteen, on YouTube.  If you don't know it, try it; an interesting contrast to the Erasure version, which I didn't know but enjoyed (for which, thanks)

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