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I did read it and despite the headline in the body text it says

 

"Asteroid OR2 will drastically cut this down to just 3.9 million miles (6.29 million km) on April 29.

In other words, the space rock is expected to miss us by about 16.36 times the distance from Earth to the Moon."

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It's not funny. I've had those asteroids and trust me, there is not enough Preparation H  in the universe to deal with a 4.5 km one.

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“If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.” Zen Proverb

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2 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Don't worry. We're busily excluding regional mayors and devolved governments from planning meetings because politics.

devolved governments... the top level planning documents is a joint national and devolved government document following the cross devolved government involvement.. Plus the relevant devolved CMO's are working  together.  So you need to explain a little more on your devolved governments non involvement from planning meetings.

As to regional mayors, of which we have various political parties i.e both Labour and Conservative mayors ... what politics... I assume politics with a small P given that they are both Labour and Conservative.  

 

 

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12 hours ago, Copa said:

People are panic buying toilet paper in Australia.

Australia produces a lot of its own toilet paper so we aren’t going to run out anytime soon.

We also have an enormous agricultural sector but if the virus really kicks off people will panic buy food also.

we have a stock pile of toilet paper... nowt to do with the virus... we still buy toilet paper as if the whole family are still living with us... although its just the two of us now.... every time I open any cupboard their is rolls and rolls of the stuff... 

Mind you stockpiling  of anything is something I grew up with... in that me dad was often on strike for months and me Mam stored food in case... we had sufficient tinned food to last out the longest of strikes many time's over .... its a habit that is ingrained in me from the 60s/70s when me Dad seemed to always be on strike .... He was a Liverpool Docker btw...

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3 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Don't worry. We're busily excluding regional mayors and devolved governments from planning meetings because politics.

You really can be silly sometimes.

All the devolved governments have been involved.  

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9 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said:

It's all a big fuss over a form of flu.

Just getting boring now all the scare mongering and panic being created over a glorified cold.

Worse than flu apparently.  More deadly too it seems.  But it appears not to be as good at spreading itself around widely.  The report I just read on the Gruniad included comment from the WHO saying these things.

All but two of the cases in the UK involve people who have returned from trips abroad, particularly Italy (presumably a lot of people went on skiing trips during the February half term!).

Two members of my extended family have serious asthma and my parent is in their 80s so personally I'm nervous, and I'm helping my parent to prepare insofar as we can ever be prepared for something we are likely to have no resilience to.

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2 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Worse than flu apparently.  More deadly too it seems.  But it appears not to be as good at spreading itself around widely.  The report I just read on the Gruniad included comment from the WHO saying these things.

All but two of the cases in the UK involve people who have returned from trips abroad, particularly Italy (presumably a lot of people went on skiing trips during the February half term!).

Two members of my extended family have serious asthma and my parent is in their 80s so personally I'm nervous, and I'm helping my parent to prepare insofar as we can ever be prepared for something we are likely to have no resilience to.

Having seen and read what I have in connection with this virus it would appear to me that the response has been a tad hysterical.

I take on board your comments regarding your elderly family members. I too have a 81 year old mother who finds out tomorrow the extent of her recent cancer diagnosis who may be at risk of this virus, but at no more risk than other flu like viruses and maladies that affect the elderly in the winter months. 

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33 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said:

It's all a big fuss over a form of flu.

Just getting boring now all the scare mongering and panic being created over a glorified cold.

Any shortages yet?

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1 hour ago, Private Baldrick said:

It's all a big fuss over a form of flu.

Just getting boring now all the scare mongering and panic being created over a glorified cold.

Ah no, now I’m convinced you’re a trollIng in my view as a forum member. You don’t go over the line where I’d pay attention as a moderator. You do go into my “do not feed the troll” queue though. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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55 minutes ago, ckn said:

Ah no, now I’m convinced you’re a trollIng in my view as a forum member. You don’t go over the line where I’d pay attention as a moderator. You do go into my “do not feed the troll” queue though. 

Yep, go against the gang and get the old troll accusation.

Nothing I have seen or heard about this virus makes me concerned that it is anything worse than the flu epidemics that regularly occur. It certainly isn't the black death.

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2 hours ago, Saintslass said:

You really can be silly sometimes.

All the devolved governments have been involved.  

He can't help himself. There is a forum for polical posts. He should use that. 

“If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.” Zen Proverb

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2 hours ago, Private Baldrick said:

Having seen and read what I have in connection with this virus it would appear to me that the response has been a tad hysterical.

I take on board your comments regarding your elderly family members. I too have a 81 year old mother who finds out tomorrow the extent of her recent cancer diagnosis who may be at risk of this virus, but at no more risk than other flu like viruses and maladies that affect the elderly in the winter months. 

.. One big difference. There is an effective flu vaccine and an effective flu vaccine process. 

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46 minutes ago, JohnM said:

.. One big difference. There is an effective flu vaccine and an effective flu vaccine process. 

Absolutely, any credible clinician treating vulnerable people will have had their flu jab therefore be almost guaranteed not to pass it on to them. This one has no vaccine and people can be carriers for a while before showing. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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The winter flus have a death rate of around 1%, the WHO just upped this one to 3.4%. 

The experts seem suitably concerned about it, so not sure it's a scare/hoax/nothing.  

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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9 hours ago, JohnM said:

He can't help himself. There is a forum for polical posts. He should use that. 

Nope - very specifically I was responding to a question about why the UK hasn't regionalised and responded.

We haven't because both small p and big P politics get in the way. I'm not getting drawn into a wider debate about it because, as you say, this isn't the politics board.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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Britain may be faulty in many ways in its handling of such things, but I’m eternally grateful I don’t live in the US. 

Reasons from it being too expensive and directly billed to patients, to state officials sticking their heads in the sand and hoping it just goes away. 

This thread, rather than politics ones, because it’s meant to help reassure a bit that we’re doing all we can as a country and NHS to try to minimise this. 

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"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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We've postponed our early April trip to the Continent  - to Vichy for a friend's 70th bday. Her daughter and son in law live in Paris and they are not travelling either. More cases in France than here. We will not be  continuing to Northern Italy and Germany as planned, either. 

Overall, people are relying on the general willingness of individuals to take the right precautions. Still concerned about screening of people entering the UK by plane, and the provision of information in languages other than English. 

“If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.” Zen Proverb

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13 minutes ago, JohnM said:

We've postponed our early April trip to the Continent  - to Vichy for a friend's 70th bday. Her daughter and son in law live in Paris and they are not travelling either. More cases in France than here. We will not be  continuing to Northern Italy and Germany as planned, either. 

Overall, people are relying on the general willingness of individuals to take the right precautions. Still concerned about screening of people entering the UK by plane, and the provision of information in languages other than English. 

The reason why we’re not putting big efforts into screening is that it doesn’t work. By the time you show temperature symptoms, you’ll be showing other more noticeable ones. 

The language thing is a problem though. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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Daughter is meant to have a school trip to CERN in a few weeks - not convinced that will happen but school want final £200 by this Friday.

As we have a the shut primary schools a couple of miles away I think the Swiss might not let them in more than anything

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26 minutes ago, SSoutherner said:

Daughter is meant to have a school trip to CERN in a few weeks - not convinced that will happen but school want final £200 by this Friday.

As we have a the shut primary schools a couple of miles away I think the Swiss might not let them in more than anything

A shame if  it doesn't go ahead. Could it not just be postponed till say October or such?

Going isn't the problem. It's the (not) coming back!

Granddaughter #4 due to take part in an overnight DoE Award hike in Peak District (in late April I think) but that has now been officially postponed till November.

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