Toulouse out of pocket again

[Tommygilf]

4 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Like if someone who is a ball runner and can pass a ball with accuracy would favour the present Salford before Wigan?

No chance sadly H. Ultimately if you think you are good enough you go to the best environment for you on average - and academies like Wigan pump out top quality players all the time. 

[Harry Stottle]

34 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Corrupt rather than just not particularly well handled?

Yes Corrupt, to three clubs, "Sorry lads your grounds are not good enough and don't come up to standard, so get them sorted or your out" to be fair one of them sorted it out in 3 years but 13 years later..............

[GUBRATS]

2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

No chance sadly H. Ultimately if you think you are good enough you go to the best environment for you on average - and academies like Wigan pump out top quality players all the time. 

Which needs to change for the good of the sport , don't you agree ?

[Tommygilf]

3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Which is what all ' fans of the sport ' want to see change , don't you ? , Well don't you ? 

I see you have found a new hobby horse Gubrats.

From an "all sport" perspective, I want a well funded academy system that produces the strongest pro player pool possible; whilst not decimating the junior game to put some lads through sub standard facilities to make some clubs feel like they are bigger than they are. If that is 6 academies across the whole country, so be it.

[Tommygilf]

2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Which needs to change for the good of the sport , don't you agree ?

Only in such a way that there is more talent than Wigan etc can scoop up annually. Restricting them in some vague equality push is frankly nonsense.

[Harry Stottle]

3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

No chance sadly H. Ultimately if you think you are good enough you go to the best environment for you on average - and academies like Wigan pump out top quality players all the time. 

And also Tommy reject loads of kids who are probably lost to the sport, they hoover up as many as possible afraid to miss anyone.

PS are you board with watching your team on TV?

[GUBRATS]

2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I see you have found a new hobby horse Gubrats.

From an "all sport" perspective, I want a well funded academy system that produces the strongest pro player pool possible; whilst not decimating the junior game to put some lads through sub standard facilities to make some clubs feel like they are bigger than they are. If that is 6 academies across the whole country, so be it.

" Whatever you want " springs to mind 

[Harry Stottle]

2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I see you have found a new hobby horse Gubrats.

From an "all sport" perspective, I want a well funded academy system that produces the strongest pro player pool possible; whilst not decimating the junior game to put some lads through sub standard facilities to make some clubs feel like they are bigger than they are. If that is 6 academies across the whole country, so be it.

And obviously have an advantage on the SC with reduced fees accountable for hone grown player's.

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

And also Tommy reject loads of kids who are probably lost to the sport, they hoover up as many as possible afraid to miss anyone.

PS are you board with watching your team on TV?

That's just player production it seems. Even the most efficient production lines need X number of players to produce Y. The question RL has is what those numbers are, and what is a responsible way to do it.

We've not had a man sin binned so we clearly don't know how to play with 13!

[Tommygilf]

3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

And obviously have an advantage on the SC with reduced fees accountable for hone grown player's.

Virtuous circle isn't it H. 

[Tommygilf]

5 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

" Whatever you want " springs to mind 

I just said what I want. Did you not see?

[GUBRATS]

3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I just said what I want. Did you not see?

It's a song Tommy , a clue 

[Harry Stottle]

1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

That's just player production it seems. Even the most efficient production lines need X number of players to produce Y. The question RL has is what those numbers are, and what is a responsible way to do it.

We've not had a man sin binned so we clearly don't know how to play with 13!

Then that production system is wrong, limit each club to the number of signings they can make each year, too many lads are signed up with expectation for the future only to be discarded and then they walk away.

Doesn't look like the know how to play full stop, and were is Newman, not injured again is he?

[Tommygilf]

3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Then that production system is wrong, limit each club to the number of signings they can make each year, too many lads are signed up with expectation for the future only to be discarded and then they walk away.

Doesn't look like the know how to play full stop, and were is Newman, not injured again is he?

That is one solution. Though to me it is weakening the production line - and consequently would have an impact on our international strength.

Newman was injured against HRK a month ago

[Tommygilf]

4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

It's a song Tommy , a clue 

Golden Brown 

[David Shepherd]

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

Corrupt rather than just not particularly well handled?

You could add opaque, secretive, bent too if you want.

[Harry Stottle]

6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Virtuous circle isn't it H. 

No, it is a purpose built advantage, Leigh had everything in place with an academy manager - Gareth Carvell, a coaching and background staff and welfare officers all in place, plus £400K budgeted to run it, can thus cash strapped game afford to turn that down, or was there some ulterior motive in the decision to turn them down like being close to Wigan, Saints and Wire? Since that decision Wigan have signed more Leigh lads to their Scholarship programme than they have signed Wigan lads.

[GUBRATS]

5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Golden Brown 

I don't think you understand this game Tommy 

[Tommygilf]

Just now, Harry Stottle said:

No, it is a purpose built advantage, Leigh had everything in place with an academy manager - Gareth Carvell, a coaching and background staff and welfare officers all in place, plus £400K budgeted to run it, can thus cash strapped game afford to turn that down, or was there some ulterior motive in the decision to turn them down like being close to Wigan, Saints and Wire? Since that decision Wigan have signed more Leigh lads to their Scholarship programme than they have signed Wigan lads.

Is £400k enough to run an academy?

And what was the long term basis for the funding?

[Harry Stottle]

7 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

That is one solution. Though to me it is weakening the production line - and consequently would have an impact on our international strength.

Newman was injured against HRK a month ago

Having more lads playing the game would be impacting on our international strength?

On Newnan is he just unlucky or brittle?, not worth risking a squad place with him in the world cup if he keeps breaking down.

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

Is £400k enough to run an academy?

And what was the long term basis for the funding?

Oh here we go 

Leeds spend 10 million a year on their academy , they have 73 people running it , the players all get gold plated boots 

Leeds , Leeds , Leeds , Leeds 

[Davo5]

1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

No, it is a purpose built advantage, Leigh had everything in place with an academy manager - Gareth Carvell, a coaching and background staff and welfare officers all in place, plus £400K budgeted to run it, can thus cash strapped game afford to turn that down, or was there some ulterior motive in the decision to turn them down like being close to Wigan, Saints and Wire? Since that decision Wigan have signed more Leigh lads to their Scholarship programme than they have signed Wigan lads.

Even if Leigh had an Academy don’t you think a lot of those amateur Leigh lads would still have signed for Wigan.or Saints.

[gingerjon]

6 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

You could add opaque, secretive, bent too if you want.

Nope.

Just wanted you to explicitly accuse the RFL of corruption.

Getting Harry too was a bonus, mind.

[Harry Stottle]

4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Is £400k enough to run an academy?

And what was the long term basis for the funding?

As I know that was the first years input.

[GUBRATS]

Just now, Davo5 said:

Even if Leigh had an Academy don’t you think a lot of those amateur Leigh lads would still have signed for Wigan.or Saints.

In that case don't you EVER criticise Leigh for not having one , and I expect you to defend us against anybody else EVER criticising us for it in the future