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  1. Jim Mills posted this photo on Facebook and said it was around 1977. Looking at records Workington Town v Widnes in 1977 at Derwent park was August in The lancashire Cup 8-6 to Town and then again in the league game in September 14-20 to Widnes. I reckon the field is to muddy for that early in the season and also Harry Beverley didnt sign from Dewsbury until 1978. So Big Harry,Muddy Derwent Park,Widnes asking the ref " How long to go" i reckon the game is November 1978 when Widnes held onto win 6-4. We are discussing the Town pack. Alf McCarron,Ian Hartley, Harry Beverley front row,Bobby Blackwood on the 13 but cant make out the second rowers. I reckon Les and Peter Gorley (Both still at the club then ) Can any one help with a team list..... from an old programme maybe ??
  2. 30 years ago North Wales Coasters attracted players from Bangor down to Nant Conwy and all along the coast to Rhyll and played in the NWC League (lower divisions) The club started of in Llandudno then moved to Abergele before getting their own ground at Boddylwythen Hospital where they built their own changing rooms pitchside, which was unique back then. They had the potential to develop league in North Wales. Off course the RFL had no money / interest in devloping the area which as you state was less of a union stronghold (back then). Come forward to the present day and the union have ploughed money into North Wales (maybe because of the presence of NW Crusaders) and RGC playing out of Colwyn Bay have risen through the ranks and are now be quite competetive in the Welsh Premiership . Another chance lost in Wales. Loads of potential with a more "Northern" attitude than South Wales and only an hour from the likes of Wigan and Saints.
  3. Played against Cardiff on Ninian Park. Paul Ringer,Tommy David,Steve Fenwick,Brynmore Williams all Welsh Union internationals with David and Fenwick and Williams also British Lions (Union) players. A few other player's people seem to forget were the likes of Paul Woods, the ex Widnes and Hull FC player also went down to play for Cardiff.Ness Flowers (14 games for Wigan),Chris O'brien over 100 games for Oldham,Graham Walters played for Hull at Wembley v HKR (and Wakey) Gordon Pritchard (Leeds,Bradford,Barrow,Huddersfield)..Maybe not the same caliber players that Carlisle and Fulham signed but they did have a core of League players along with their union converts. They actually beat Carlisle as they went on a four game winning streak after they got "monstered " at Keighley. But as you say never had the depth to be really competetive . Some interesting first season results here (won 17 L 16 D 1 in all competitions) and also look at the two away gates at Carlisle(John Player and league) both 3,000 plus . https://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/s680/st147706.htm
  4. Singapore (born), England (Father), Scotland (Mother), Wales (Grandfather) Netherlands (National/resident) . GB Despite all that choice representing Cumberland was as far as I got Masters Gold shorts now though, age sneaked* up and caught me * or is that snook.. as in Cumbrian
  5. Went over to pay my respects to the Big Man as an ex team mate ,opposition and long standing friend of the family. Les got a great send off. Despite the circumstances it was nice to meet up with guys who I have never bumped into since the old days. A great team could have taken to the field , ,Boxer,Korky,Banksy,Ian Rudd,Dave Smith,Harry Bev,Chris Arkwright,Harry Pinner,Risso,Bobby Blackwood,Shemmy Collister,Phil Kitchen,Spanky,Eddie Bowman,Buck,Keith Davies plus others I have proberbly missed. Some memories were re lived long into the night believe me. Gone but never forgotten marra.
  6. try this link https://play.ovo.com.au/event/12509 Ah ...Knights game is Geo blocked in NL .Looks like its only available (at present) to a handful of competing nations as I have just seen this ..but no worries I land in Sydney Friday evening . "The World Cup Nines on October 18 and 19 will be broadcast on the platform into seven competing nations: France, Samoa, Lebanon, Papua New Guinea, United States, Cook Islands and Fiji with a combined fan base of over three million people." Undecided if I will pop into Cambeltown yet (its on the way down to the Souther Highlands ) or head down to the village and catch the games in the pub . Wife and daughter in tow this time so s different holiday planned .Still defo going to the double header at Wollongong on the 25th. Knights game 04:00 am Aussie time ......could be a problem on a sunday morning !!!!
  7. Interesting development regarding the World Nines. Just been released via Facebook. England Knights v Jamaica game also scheduled to be streamed. https://mailchi.mp/f9a28e29177f/londonninespartnerswithrlwc-636465 I downloaded the app. Works fine in the Netherlands. Not sure if it will be blocked in countries that have Sky showing games. All legal and above board so worth seeing if its available where you live. Chromecast available on it also to watch on your TV.
  8. So many arm chair referees on here. Maybe one or two have taken up the whistle and been in charge of local footy games. Give the guys a break... Decisions on what they see.. In the heat of the moment... In the pace of the game... Anyone on here ever tried it at junior level never mind the pressures of the biggest game of the season.?? Anyway with the support of video referee we hope they get crucial calls right. Other calls are what's in front of them... After all they are only human. Cracking final
  9. Can't see what hockey has to do with it to be honest. Yes it's massive over here but their surface is totally different from the rugby and soccer fields. The councils are paying to roll out 3 and 4G pitches as apparently it is cost effective compared to maintaining natural grass. Unless you have visited the Netherlands its hard to imagine the facilities available to sport clubs. Real Eye opener when I first arrived. You have to remember over here a local soccer club (Sunday pub league equivalent in the UK) can turn out a lot of teams over a weekend and on training nights. Take my nearest soccer club RKDEO Nootdorp... Over 80 teams from under 8 to seniors to consider. Five pitches, 2 artificial turf. Rugby Union clubs are now heading the same way and replacing grass fields. AZ played against United at ADO Den Haag where they have been playing all their home games since a roof blew of one of their stands. ADO is ten minutes from my house and have a hybred pitch. Real grass intertwined with artificial grass.Nowhere near as bad as Ole Gunner said. I think he was getting excuses in before the game As for really big clubs I guess your talking about the big three Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord? These clubs still have natural grass fields. The rubber fill did cause a lot of concern a few years ago but newer fields seem to use a sand fill. The National Rugby Stadium in Amsterdam has a new 4G field. Den Haag Knights beat Amsterdam Cobras in the Dutch GF on this field with no more skin burns than can be expected in a summer dry grass field. One problem we had the week before, on the same pitch, was the heat being reflected of the artificial turf. It was crazy and something we had not even considered.
  10. 3G (now 4G) pitches are growing all the time here in the Netherlands. Local councils are installing them everywhere to cut down on the maintainence cost of traditional grass pitches. Apparently it is cheaper to maintain a 3G / 4G pitch . We have six in the two villages (Town) of 25,000 people, in four clubs. (soccer) But then again anyone who has ever been to play soccer or rugby in the Netherlands know even at the lowest level the fields are top quality..no park fields full of dog poo , ruts and broken glass. Six Dutch Premier League (Eredivisie) soccer clubs play on "Kunstgrass" and twelve Championship (Kuekenchampieon) clubs ...so there must be a benefit in it . Rugby union clubs are gradually changing to 4G fields and in my opinion its for the better. Regarding Rugby League, when we first started here in the Netherlands it was impossible to get a grass field from the end of May to midway in August due to them being closed down for maintainence. 3G /4G fields has now opened up a whole new season . From a sandy beach to a top quality surface..notice the difference
  11. Hacettepe are not a League club as far as I am aware. https://turkishrugbyleague.com/men/ Other code . Their Facebook page confirms this.
  12. has the filter been applied ?? fervent traditionalist becomes "fervent traditionalist " in the above post !!!!!!!! EDITED f l a t c a p p e r is no longer allowed and I was talking about myself !!!!
  13. No insult intended.... just an opinion . I have followed a small Town Northern Club for over 40 years..(a real fervent traditionalist me ),to League one,four Lancashire cup finals and before my time Wembley and Premiership winners to being on the verge of going out of business yet even I realise the game has to attract new investment to grow. Three years down the line and I dont see Toronto slowing down like Paris,South Wales,Mansfield,Trafford Borough,Kent Invicta etc etc . It seems to me that a lot of people want them to fail for their own reasons.
  14. Yep typical comment and thought process of a new fan. I watched my first game last night and loved it
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