Therein73 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Coolie...... Just checked, it was Oldham and they were in the second division as it was then........58-12 we lost, at home, and Kelly went on the Tuesday after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christheram Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 46 minutes ago, Wilsden Ram said: GM is part time and would you like to inform the Forum how much he is paid? From the list you mentioned one of the few was looking for far more 4 years ago! I am sure the three would apply for any coaching vacancies as none of them are currently involved in the game apart from giving expert opinions on Radio Leeds. I've heard a salary mensioned but not for me to say. My point isn't Glens salary, it's the point we may need a new coach because clearly at the minute it's just not working out or happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old nine ole Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Before we throw the baby out with the bathwater ..... have all the usual 'fixes' to this scenario been exhausted? .... This kind of thing happens regularly in the business world .....in fact any world where people are concerned !!! It could be something very simple and easily fixed ... usually a clear the air session or a moderated 'team listening' excersize would identify the cause and effect, then a plan of action implemented to fix the problem, with all parties signing up to it!! Having said all that ..... If it were my team ... I would just find a way to get a playmaking No7 .... who would open up some space for creative play .. score a few tries ... and then we would see confidence and morale grow!! Anyone can look good when things are going well ... true leaders find a way when things aren't going so well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 4 hours ago, the old nine ole said: Before we throw the baby out with the bathwater ..... have all the usual 'fixes' to this scenario been exhausted? .... This kind of thing happens regularly in the business world .....in fact any world where people are concerned !!! It could be something very simple and easily fixed ... usually a clear the air session or a moderated 'team listening' excersize would identify the cause and effect, then a plan of action implemented to fix the problem, with all parties signing up to it!! Having said all that ..... If it were my team ... I would just find a way to get a playmaking No7 .... who would open up some space for creative play .. score a few tries ... and then we would see confidence and morale grow!! Anyone can look good when things are going well ... true leaders find a way when things aren't going so well!! All the usual fixes? This reads as though our problems are new. They are not and started some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old nine ole Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, NickD said: All the usual fixes? This reads as though our problems are new. They are not and started some time ago. I don't think i said or implied they were new problems .... I just asked have the usual fixes been exhausted??? ..... I don't know do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, the old nine ole said: I don't think i said or implied they were new problems .... I just asked have the usual fixes been exhausted??? ..... I don't know do you? You are right of course TONO - we don't know, just assume. I suppose that the recent seasons have now convinced most of us that we are getting no "added value" from the current coaching set up. Our style of play is totally forward based and uninspiring; personally I don't see that changing. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Blind side johnny said: You are right of course TONO - we don't know, just assume. I suppose that the recent seasons have now convinced most of us that we are getting no "added value" from the current coaching set up. Our style of play is totally forward based and uninspiring; personally I don't see that changing. Cheers BSJ. You answered for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyoldram Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 14 hours ago, NickD said: All the usual fixes? This reads as though our problems are new. They are not and started some time ago. Absolutely right Nick, but I'm not sure changing the coach will help us avert the drop. For me, it is GM's recruitment as much as his coaching that is to blame for our plight, largely because he resigned a hard core of players now in their third and fourth seasons who are not, and never were good enough - and of course we can't afford to replace them. If we really are down to 13 players, and resorting to recruiting a player released by a bottom ch1 side, then we really are staring down the barrel. Censorship ends in logical completeness when nobody is allowed to read any books except the books that nobody reads. George Bernard Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauliflower lugs Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 hours ago, grumpyoldram said: Absolutely right Nick, but I'm not sure changing the coach will help us avert the drop. For me, it is GM's recruitment as much as his coaching that is to blame for our plight, largely because he resigned a hard core of players now in their third and fourth seasons who are not, and never were good enough - and of course we can't afford to replace them. If we really are down to 13 players, and resorting to recruiting a player released by a bottom ch1 side, then we really are staring down the barrel. I think some of them were good enough when he signed them Grumpy, but Morrisons bad coaching , or lack of any coaching , is now very apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Because I weeded him out 4 years ago Do get to pick the next one?? Or at least sit in on the interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old nine ole Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, coolie said: Do get to pick the next one?? Or at least sit in on the interviews So , lets say you are on the selection panel ...... who would realistically be on your shortlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsden Ram Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 27 minutes ago, coolie said: Because I weeded him out 4 years ago Do get to pick the next one?? Or at least sit in on the interviews Good Idea, then at least I can blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, the old nine ole said: So , lets say you are on the selection panel ...... who would realistically be on your shortlist? Simply see who casts their hat into the ring to start It's fine having someone in mind for the job,but more important is they've to show an interest first I would like kelly brook as my au pair... But in realistic terms I'd end up with dot cotton It's all. About knowing your limitations.. Forget talk of Cummins, Anderson,Morgan,or any big name Even Webster would be out of our price bracket... We need someone to come in who's hungry to make a success and believes in Dewsbury, and can make a difference.. Broadbent managed to turn it around in 7 games..so could the right man again for the job.. Like I said we simply have to beat Sheffield & Bradford and then.match their results to.stay up Bradford's hand outs from the other super league teams is a serious worry to us and a major threat to our championship existence. It's to be financially viable who we get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wilsden Ram said: Good Idea, then at least I can blame you. Lol yup I'll take full responsibility mate lol I don't have any problem admitting when I've got it wrong...it's called been HUMBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauliflower lugs Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, coolie said: Lol yup I'll take full responsibility mate lol I don't have any problem admitting when I've got it wrong...it's called been HUMBLE Aussies don't do HUMBLE . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauliflower lugs Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Ours doesn't even do humble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christheram Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 hours ago, coolie said: Because I weeded him out 4 years ago Do get to pick the next one?? Or at least sit in on the interviews Weeded him out? He did have 2 good seasons with us to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzzy Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 10 hours ago, grumpyoldram said: Absolutely right Nick, but I'm not sure changing the coach will help us avert the drop. For me, it is GM's recruitment as much as his coaching that is to blame for our plight, largely because he resigned a hard core of players now in their third and fourth seasons who are not, and never were good enough - and of course we can't afford to replace them. If we really are down to 13 players, and resorting to recruiting a player released by a bottom ch1 side, then we really are staring down the barrel. Try doing what Bradford did they seem to be getting quality players gifted to them left right and centre chappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, christheram said: Weeded him out? He did have 2 good seasons with us to be fair. 2 good years? First season (excuse was it wasn't his team) Second season with a halfback was his team and achieved the same as it was when it wasn't his team Third season and forth season lost twice as many games each of those season's than won Remind me again where these 2 great season's were? This season Played 3 lost 3 scored 1 try in 240 minutes of rugby Lost to both championship 1 teams promoted last season,also lost to a team fancied to struggle No halfback recruited, not even from the DR system No conditioner last season Get one this season and now more injuries than ever, and now only 13 players If carlsberg did relegation disasters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsey The Ram 97 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hi guys, long time no see (very long time at that lol). Karl Harrison has gone in to player agency so most likely wouldn't go back in to coaching. If we do get a new coach Phil Veivers may be a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 13 hours ago, coolie said: 2 good years? First season (excuse was it wasn't his team) Second season with a halfback was his team and achieved the same as it was when it wasn't his team Third season and forth season lost twice as many games each of those season's than won Remind me again where these 2 great season's were? This season Played 3 lost 3 scored 1 try in 240 minutes of rugby Lost to both championship 1 teams promoted last season,also lost to a team fancied to struggle No halfback recruited, not even from the DR system No conditioner last season Get one this season and now more injuries than ever, and now only 13 players If carlsberg did relegation disasters.... Just to defend the new man: conditioners can't prevent bones being broken. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham fisher Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Blind side johnny said: Just to defend the new man: conditioners can't prevent bones being broken. Beat me to it BSJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Woe ta horses boys I'm not for one minute blaming the new conditioner so you can forget that. I'm drawing more to the point that why didn't we have one? Surely these appointments should be standard in a teams backroom staff And if the only thing you can pull me up on is that I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, coolie said: Woe ta horses boys I'm not for one minute blaming the new conditioner so you can forget that. I'm drawing more to the point that why didn't we have one? Surely these appointments should be standard in a teams backroom staff And if the only thing you can pull me up on is that I'm happy No Coolie, we're just being kind. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsey The Ram 97 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, coolie said: Woe ta horses boys I'm not for one minute blaming the new conditioner so you can forget that. I'm drawing more to the point that why didn't we have one? Surely these appointments should be standard in a teams backroom staff And if the only thing you can pull me up on is that I'm happy Should have been here before this season Coolie mate I agree there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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