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13 minutes ago, TIWIT said:

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League Express says there will be a 2 point deduction for the Wolfpack next year...looks like we are back in....I think that such a heavy penalty is only fair and just.

 

We will get over it.

THE PACK IS BACK!

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I am devastated by todays decision.Obviously I think its wrong but I think it shows the narrow minded thinking of most super league clubs.I very much doubt the Wolfpack will ever be back as I don't se

Rugby League as a sport - fans, owners, administrators, the lot - gets what it deserves. There was an opportunity here, an owner who's spent £10m, a growing fanbase and a very attractive market,

To avoid the forum being swamped with dozens of individual threads about Toronto which generally all end up heading down the same rabbit hole eventually anyway, we're opening this general discussion t

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18 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

"The Tension!"...".Waiting on the Edge of Our Seats!"..."The Drama!"...."The Decision Coming Down Like A Jack Hammer!"

-How much longer SL gonna be able to drag this out for?

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1 hour ago, Kayakman said:

League Express says there will be a 2 point deduction for the Wolfpack next year...looks like we are back in....I think that such a heavy penalty is only fair and just.

 

We will get over it.

THE PACK IS BACK!

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500 more pages to go!

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6 minutes ago, ojx said:

Not sure if this is true, but 2 a point deductions seems like a bit of tokenism. Recruitment is going to be tricky if they are allowed back in.

I agree, 2 points seems very small in light of the initial super league response...I wonder if by¬†‚Äúhave agreed‚Äú to a 2 point reduction that‚Äôs what the Wolfpack have ‚Äúoffered‚ÄĚ?

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In a weird and completely unintended way, TWP pulling out has probably done the 11 other clubs some good this year. There has been a weekly break for one club in a very cramped fixture list and players available to supplement several squads.

Given the strain on clubs to meet an insanely cramped run in over the next month and the inevitably that games are going to be cancelled now we are getting deeper into the 2nd Wave, I wonder if this has bought them a level of "sympathy" from some SL club owners.

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On 22/10/2020 at 20:00, Harry Stottle said:

I took the test on Monday, and came back positive Tuesday, I will go along with your symptoms and add in a throat that feels as though if has been scrubbed with a wire brush.

Good luck Robin.

Evening Harry, just got back from 4 days on Kangaroo Island with only the briefest link to the wifi. So I hope that things are progressing well for you and anyone else from this site that has the virus.  Good to read that Robin got a negative result.

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1 minute ago, Adelaide Tiger said:

Evening Harry, just got back from 4 days on Kangaroo Island with only the briefest link to the wifi. So I hope that things are progressing well for you and anyone else from this site that has the virus.  Good to read that Robin got a negative result.

A weeks leave spent mostly in bed.

Monday comes round and suddenly I feel much better. Great!!

Toronto then. From a purely selfish perspective their reintroduction is probably the best fit.. SL back to 12 clubs with promotion back on the agenda in 2021. Gives fev, leigh, toulouse et al something to shoot for.

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10 hours ago, Kayakman said:

"The Tension!"...".Waiting on the Edge of Our Seats!"..."The Drama!"...."The Decision Coming Down Like A Jack Hammer!"

-How much longer SL gonna be able to drag this out for?

 

8 hours ago, Kayakman said:

Was it ever really in doubt?

Yes, it says in the report it will state what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, now I have asked this question on these pages numerous times and have not recieved any logical reply, all we hear is a passionate 'it will be good for the game' nothing more than a suck it and see mentality.

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2 hours ago, Whippet13 said:

In a weird and completely unintended way, TWP pulling out has probably done the 11 other clubs some good this year. There has been a weekly break for one club in a very cramped fixture list and players available to supplement several squads.

Given the strain on clubs to meet an insanely cramped run in over the next month and the inevitably that games are going to be cancelled now we are getting deeper into the 2nd Wave, I wonder if this has bought them a level of "sympathy" from some SL club owners.

Good spin Whippy, look hard enough and you can find something good even in the worst situations.

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55 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

 

Yes, it says in the report it will state what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, now I have asked this question on these pages numerous times and have not recieved any logical reply, all we hear is a passionate 'it will be good for the game' nothing more than a suck it and see mentality.

Patience Harry.

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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

 

Yes, it says in the report it will state what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, now I have asked this question on these pages numerous times and have not recieved any logical reply, all we hear is a passionate 'it will be good for the game' nothing more than a suck it and see mentality.

Are you SURE you're not parksider? He also liked to repeat that nobody had satisfactorily answered his questions,  so matter what had actually been said.

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1 hour ago, TheReaper said:

Are you SURE you're not parksider? He also liked to repeat that nobody had satisfactorily answered his questions,  so matter what had actually been said.

Hey, no point in insulting people

 

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1 hour ago, TheReaper said:

Are you SURE you're not parksider? He also liked to repeat that nobody had satisfactorily answered his questions,  so matter what had actually been said.

Just asked Mrs Stottle, she confirmed I am definitely not Mr Parksider, but I don't lie Mr Reaper yes I have asked the question on numerous occasions and no nothing tangible has ever been offered in what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, can you offer me anything other than hollow promises?

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12 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just asked Mrs Stottle, she confirmed I am definitely not Mr Parksider, but I don't lie Mr Reaper yes I have asked the question on numerous occasions and no nothing tangible has ever been offered in what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, can you offer me anything other than hollow promises?

Try to be more positive Harry.

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15 hours ago, Kayakman said:

No news is good news.

Saw a funny comedy skit by P.G. Wodehouse once where the boring and bit dotty Uncle used to bore his nieces and nephew with tales of his `Big game hunting`, and how they would say behind his back, " No gnus is good gnus".

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On 19/09/2020 at 11:32, TheReaper said:

 

But they can monetize that, I said exactly how.  Advertising by international companies operating in multiple countries. Sky would pay for UK broadcast rights,  and in turn sell UK subscriptions in the UK and sell advertising on those channels. Some of those advertisers would be league - wide sponsors who will (ideally) be higher value than they currently. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just asked Mrs Stottle, she confirmed I am definitely not Mr Parksider, but I don't lie Mr Reaper yes I have asked the question on numerous occasions and no nothing tangible has ever been offered in what TWP and Canada will bring to SL, can you offer me anything other than hollow promises?

See above for only one of many times this has been addressed. International viewers with a stake in the game means international visibility for larger sponsorship. Bigger TV rights from Canadian broadcasters than they currently pay (Sportsnet paid for SL rights before TWP existed. So there is a value there, and it is defintiely worth more now).

It is potential. That money can't be guaranteed by any club, it requites all putting in the work to get there.

Just because it isn't a cheque directly to their bank accounts doesn't mean it isn't real.

Just because the short term cost is too much for the other clubs to stomach doesn't mean that it isn't there. 

Just because it wasn't in direct reply to you doesn't mean it hasn't been answered. You just need to read what's out there rather than demand it given to you.

Just because you aren't personally satisfied with answers provided doesn't make them invalid.

 

Note, I'm not promising anything, "hollow" or not, because I'm not the Toronto Wolfpack. I'm laying out where I see the potential for value. All business is about potential. 

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25/10/20

Toronto Wolfpack are set to speak to the Super League board next week as a decision on their future draws nearer.

Sources across Super League have told League Express they have invited the Wolfpack’s new ownership group an opportunity to speak to the other Super League club owners on November 2nd.

The Wolfpack submitted their revised application on Friday after the competition had given them a four-week extension.

As part of their application, Toronto have, as they have always said they would, requested a full share of the income from the Sky broadcasting deal.

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