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Well my sister's fella is making very small steps in the right direction. From being described as as near to death without being dead, he's now sat up, off dialysis and yesterday was breathing on

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1 minute ago, ckn said:

A standard videoconferencing license allows up to 100 people on one call. Bulk purchase them, have the teachers and students log in from home if they're being sent home. And hope the national infrastructure can keep up.

This is an advantage (privilege even) of having your kid at a fancy pants fee paying school.

Not only do we already know what their preparedness plan is for *when* they will eventually close the building but they (and we) know that there will be zero issue with the IT - and also, and this is the more brutal bit, that every pupil will have no issue accessing and using the resources online.

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I'll move the settee back then.

This is for your basic gondola style. Longer bargepoles are also available.

This google search took me into some dark places in the canal community. I have thankfully returned and am only slightly fearful for certain members of the population and their 'interests'.

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12 minutes ago, ckn said:

A standard videoconferencing license allows up to 100 people on one call. Bulk purchase them, have the teachers and students log in from home if they're being sent home. And hope the national infrastructure can keep up.

Great if the school actually had anyone who understood IT, however due to budget cuts they rely on the ICT teacher and outside 3rd party support when it goes past him.

The Biology teachers email to her uVI class is that she is spending this am exploring whether Google Meet will work for them as they use google classroom usually whilst the non 6th form use something called doddle for all online learning. One of the other teachers has requested that he stay at the school as it has better connectivity/IT than his rented flat that he shares with his wife who works in healthcare and he feels better for both of them to not be close together and better for his class (that he is still trying to get through their ALevel Physics curriculum) as his data plan wouldnt cope with much videoconferencing before it ran out (no ADSL)

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Times of national danger call for times of national unity.

There's going to be millions of old codgers over seventy doing self isolation with only their partners and the telly for company. The BBC and ITV should pool resources and make sure that all news programmes carry some old codger eye-candy.

At least one of  Nina Hossein, Holly Hamilton, Carol Kirkwood, David Ginola, Bryan Ferry, Sean Bean and some of the pro dancers from Strictly Come Dancing should feature on every bulletin.

Suggestions of other candidates would be of interest.

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5 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Times of national danger call for times of national unity.

There's going to be millions of old codgers over seventy doing self isolation with only their partners and the telly for company. The BBC and ITV should pool resources and make sure that all news programmes carry some old codger eye-candy.

At least one of  Nina Hossein, Holly Hamilton, Carol Kirkwood, David Ginola, Bryan Ferry, Sean Bean and some of the pro dancers from Strictly Come Dancing should feature on every bulletin.

Suggestions of other candidates would be of interest.

Valerie Singleton for the older older codgers

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7 minutes ago, SSoutherner said:

Great if the school actually had anyone who understood IT, however due to budget cuts they rely on the ICT teacher and outside 3rd party support when it goes past him.

The Biology teachers email to her uVI class is that she is spending this am exploring whether Google Meet will work for them as they use google classroom usually whilst the non 6th form use something called doddle for all online learning. One of the other teachers has requested that he stay at the school as it has better connectivity/IT than his rented flat that he shares with his wife who works in healthcare and he feels better for both of them to not be close together and better for his class (that he is still trying to get through their ALevel Physics curriculum) as his data plan wouldnt cope with much videoconferencing before it ran out (no ADSL)

See my earlier post. There will be a huge divide between how independent sector schools and most state schools are able to cope and continue to educate.

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Anyway, my sister, Major (Retired) Jon's Sister (Nurse), has now gone into self isolation. High temperature, breathing issues and a cough.

That's a family of three out of circulation for a couple of weeks. I hope they got enough bog roll in time.

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1 minute ago, SSoutherner said:

Valerie Singleton for the older older codgers

Added to the list.

Nina Hossein, Holly Hamilton, Carol Kirkwood, David Ginola, Bryan Ferry, Sean Bean, some of the pro dancers from Strictly Come Dancing and Valerie Singleton.

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21 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

See my earlier post. There will be a huge divide between how independent sector schools and most state schools are able to cope and continue to educate.

Luckily son was at a private school (got as huge Maths scholarship) and became the IT managers right hand man so he is setting up tech with his sister and going to teach/assist her maths & physics (he got A*A*A* in Maths, further maths and physics 2 yrs ago) likely better than the teaching she will receive form a school teacher using his mobile and his uni (warwick) has moved to online only from now until Sep anyway

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Sorry. I find it highly suspicious that China, a country of 1.4 billion souls can only have 80k cases & 3k deaths whilst Italy has 28k cases and 2.2k deaths.

20 out of only 21 new cases in China are travellers from abroad??? !!! Ridiculously impossible.

India, a country of 1.3 billion next door to China, 120 cases total !!!

It's all a bit dodgy.

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21 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Sorry. I find it highly suspicious that China, a country of 1.4 billion souls can only have 80k cases & 3k deaths whilst Italy has 28k cases and 2.2k deaths.

20 out of only 21 new cases in China are travellers from abroad??? !!! Ridiculously impossible.

India, a country of 1.3 billion next door to China, 120 cases total !!!

It's all a bit dodgy.

In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur knowledge. 

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4 hours ago, Wolford6 said:

Hoping for the best for you both. Plenty of people get a higher temperature from fighting "normal" colds etc.

To my mind, the only indication that Coronavirus is a genuine problem is that every country is panicking. The actual infection numbers are pretty low to date; 1543 by this morning.

Like everyone else, I'll do what is legally necessary but I suspect that governments are thinking that "If it gets really bad, at least we took precautions. If it proves to have a minor effect, that's because we took so many precautions."

Win win for them. A bit different for the people who lose jobs and businesses.

The lack of testing is why we have low infection numbers. We are not doing as the WHO recommends on this. Everyone accepts that the true numbers are many multiples of this.

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11 minutes ago, ckn said:

In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur knowledge. 

I suspect there's a strong element of that. With the added issue that if it does get into those 'segregated' communities it will be devastating.

It was one of the things I thought about on my cruise - did I mention my cruise? - especially as the islands have that potentially deadly combination of poor hygiene owing to not great resources, people living in close proximity, inter-community socialising as a norm, the need to work for pay, and only small scale (and expensive) health care. From my understanding, the same is broadly true of poorer and remote communities in the countries we're talking about. If they did pick up an infection, it would likely not be passed onto any other community but be brutal within it.

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In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur 

Yes, I agree, but still not buying the figures. 

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Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

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2 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Yes, I agree, but still not buying the figures. 

I don't blame you. There may be widespread infections that are not reported because no-one gives a damn about them. Also, remember that the more physically fit you are then the more likely you are to come out of this in good order with minimum symptoms, many robust working class folk may not even notice.

That's a massive simplification though as there are more than a few deaths of ordinarily healthy 20-40 year olds that can't be explained by low fitness or underlying conditions.

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Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

We had a 1st wave of idiots buying up all the toilet roll & pasta last week, we have a despicable 2nd wave of utterly selfish cowards buying up the rice, paracetamol, bread, baby wipes and kitchen towels this week. 

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It's my birthday, i have the day off. I am currently at a supermarket buying a costa coffee and some cigarettes. 

It's a working day during working hours and the car park is full. There's grown men rushing around the aisles filling trolleys, i wouldn't believe it if not for my own eyes.....

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4 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

We had a 1st wave of idiots buying up all the toilet roll & pasta last week, we have a despicable 2nd wave of utterly selfish cowards buying up the rice, paracetamol, bread, baby wipes and kitchen towels this week. 

Add crisps and washing up liquid to that list.

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14 minutes ago, ckn said:

Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

Apparently raw cheap paracetemol is usually manufactured in China then shipped to India where it is made into pills/capsules and packaged into blisterpacks. The factories in china were shut and off that India deciding they might need it have put on an export ban on the finished product

 

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Just had the cry of angst from my sister in Hertfordshire opulence. She's retired after a career in the City.

There were no disposable nappies in the supermarket this week. She always buys some to hand in at the local foodbank.

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It's a working day during working hours and the car park is full. There's grown men rushing around the aisles filling trolleys, i wouldn't believe it if ...

An absolute disgrace. That's womens' work.

 

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8 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Just had the cry of angst from my sister in Hertfordshire opulence. She's retired after a career in the City.

There were no disposable nappies in the supermarket this week. She always buys some to hand in at the local foodbank.

she should buy them some real ones then

All my 3 (youngest 13) used the same set of motherease reusables, only difference form old school terry ones is they have poppers on the corners. Saved us a fortune over the years

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