Total Rugby League 495 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 New York are in advanced talks about playing in the Challenge Cup in 2021 despite it looking increasingly likely that they will have to wait... View the full article Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) I’ll have to wait until my copy of TRL arrives to read this as I don’t have a log in. Would be good to see NY in the 2020 cup though Edited February 24, 2020 by Eddie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,265 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I’m guessing that says that it’s more unlikely they’ll be in League One next year, so the question is, who is going to play for them in the Challenge Cup next year if they aren’t playing league games? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyLad 17 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Who’s going to pay for the amateur sides flights and accommodation in the first few rounds if they manage to get a home game ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,265 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, RugbyLad said: Who’s going to pay for the amateur sides flights and accommodation in the first few rounds if they manage to get a home game ? It will, I imagine, be like Toronto or Red Star Belgrade, where they’ll play away regardless of the draw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyLad 17 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Not according to Aaron Bower on twitter. Excl: New York are holding ‘constructive talks’ with the RFL over entering the Challenge Cup in 2021 irrespective of whether they’re admitted to League 1. They’ll enter in round one and will play their home games in NYC if all goes to plan. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oxford 5,023 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 View the full article The trouble I can't gain access to any of the stories on TRL, is anyone else finding this? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,265 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RugbyLad said: Who’s going to pay for the amateur sides flights and accommodation in the first few rounds if they manage to get a home game ? Bloody hell. That’s crazy, especially for the amateur sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yakstorm 1,509 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RugbyLad said: Who’s going to pay for the amateur sides flights and accommodation in the first few rounds if they manage to get a home game ? It would be NYC who would have to pay these costs, just like NYC will be expected to pay these costs for any League 1 / Championship / Super League teams they may face if they are ever added to the pyramid. 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: I’m guessing that says that it’s more unlikely they’ll be in League One next year, so the question is, who is going to play for them in the Challenge Cup next year if they aren’t playing league games? Maybe they'll take the approach of Valencia and organise a series of friendlies to build up interest in the side with the hope of entering in 2022? 1 Quote PACIFIQUE TREIZE: Join the team by registering as a fan today at pacifique13.com Link to post Share on other sites
Lowdesert 3,106 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RugbyLad said: Who’s going to pay for the amateur sides flights and accommodation in the first few rounds if they manage to get a home game ? Theyve done it once already with TWP. Do keep up RL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyLad 17 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Theyve done it once already with TWP. Do keep up RL. 27 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Theyve done it once already with TWP. Do keep up RL. Which amateur side did the TWP host in the Challenge Cup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyLad 17 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Yakstorm said: It would be NYC who would have to pay these costs, just like NYC will be expected to pay these costs for any League 1 / Championship / Super League teams they may face if they are ever added to the pyramid. Maybe they'll take the approach of Valencia and organise a series of friendlies to build up interest in the side with the hope of entering in 2022? I hope it does work. Think TWP is great for the game. Would love to see a strong Canada/USA league eventually. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby Chopra 1,468 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: I’m guessing that says that it’s more unlikely they’ll be in League One next year, so the question is, who is going to play for them in the Challenge Cup next year if they aren’t playing league games? Good question. It's not a serious proposal if you ask me. It'll be more akin to rounding up a bunch of semi-pro ringers for an exhibition match. Frankly if they want to promote rugby league ahead of joining L1 a year later, they'd be better off getting the Wolfpack to play one of their loop games in NY. At least it would be a proper contest between two teams with top division professional players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby Chopra 1,468 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, scotchy1 said: I think there was an attempt last year to get Salford v leeds out there. However the cup next year for a 2022 entry would give them a chance to get the best us players and youngsters together and give them a couple of games against good amateur and lower league sides. Is the NYC proposal to use US players and youngsters in L1? If so they'll make West Wales Raiders look competitive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GUBRATS 4,732 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Toby Chopra said: Is the NYC proposal to use US players and youngsters in L1? If so they'll make West Wales Raiders look competitive... Well I doubt they'll be going ' Toronto ' and spending millions to play 3/4 games in the Challenge Cup Possibly a good way to test the water for a game or two and find out if they do have any local talent 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: Bloody hell. That’s crazy, especially for the amateur sides. Why, it would be amazing. Are you seriously saying you don’t think a team of NCL players would want to do this as a one off, instead preferring to draw West Bank away? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Toby Chopra said: Is the NYC proposal to use US players and youngsters in L1? If so they'll make West Wales Raiders look competitive... There are a lot of Union players in the USA who would easily hold their own against WWR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,265 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Eddie said: Why, it would be amazing. Are you seriously saying you don’t think a team of NCL players would want to do this as a one off, instead preferring to draw West Bank away? They might want to however, unless New York are funding the whole cost of flights, insurance, necessary baggage and accommodation, you’re asking amateur clubs, who, IMO, are criminally underfunded in comparison to some clubs in the “professional” game, to pay a five figure sum to play a game of Rugby. You also have to think about availability of players and officials of the clubs too. Yeah, it’s New York and yeah, it’s a chance of a lifetime etc etc but it’s merely a hobby for most of these lads and days off work for the employed and self employed are limited as it is and New York, I assume, would be a 4-5 day trip due to jet lag etc, much like when sides travel to Toronto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: They might want to however, unless New York are funding the whole cost of flights, insurance, necessary baggage and accommodation, you’re asking amateur clubs, who, IMO, are criminally underfunded in comparison to some clubs in the “professional” game, to pay a five figure sum to play a game of Rugby. You also have to think about availability of players and officials of the clubs too. Yeah, it’s New York and yeah, it’s a chance of a lifetime etc etc but it’s merely a hobby for most of these lads and days off work for the employed and self employed are limited as it is and New York, I assume, would be a 4-5 day trip due to jet lag etc, much like when sides travel to Toronto. Jet lag isn’t a massive issue on the east coast, and of course the amateur clubs won’t have to pay for flights etc. Obviously none of us know without asking them but I’d have thought the vast majority of players would jump at the chance to take a couple of days annual leave and go to NY to play. I know I would if I was lucky enough to be playing in the NCL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheReaper 1,276 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 What else are vacation days for if not rugby tours? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby Chopra 1,468 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: There are a lot of Union players in the USA who would easily hold their own against WWR. Which ones? I don't buy it. If a team made up union players can easily play league then it would have been done before. Its never worked, not because they aren't decent sportsmen, but because they're different sports. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Toby Chopra said: Which ones? I don't buy it. If a team made up union players can easily play league then it would have been done before. Its never worked, not because they aren't decent sportsmen, but because they're different sports. Because they usually get paid more in Union so why would they swap over? However I assume NY will have a big budget so might be able to attract some of MLR’s top players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Man of Kent 7,331 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Well this seems a sensible idea with no whacking great obvious flaws at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yakstorm 1,509 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: They might want to however, unless New York are funding the whole cost of flights, insurance, necessary baggage and accommodation, you’re asking amateur clubs, who, IMO, are criminally underfunded in comparison to some clubs in the “professional” game, to pay a five figure sum to play a game of Rugby. New York have always said they'll cover the costs for any team travelling across (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/rugby-league/47949085) and that's assuming they even draw a home game. Quote PACIFIQUE TREIZE: Join the team by registering as a fan today at pacifique13.com Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,497 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Man of Kent said: Well this seems a sensible idea with no whacking great obvious flaws at all. A new bone for you to gnaw on MoK 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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