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4 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Just seen the Greg Peters interview on Newsnight.

His main line of defence was the organisers hadn’t offered enough of a guarantee around bio-security.

Need to hear from the organisers now I feel. 

They have already issued a statement saying they met every demand. As the NZRL have changed their tune in a week I know who I am inclined to believe.

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7 minutes ago, Damien said:

I would love for the PI nations stay in the RLWC and for Australia and NZ be decimated going forward. 

Oh absolutely agree. You need Lebanon, Italy and Greece to stay in too also with a full compliment of players. Just can’t see it…

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So many NZ and Australian test players qualify for other nations - how crazy would it be if players like Tedesco, Manu, Papali'i, Asofa Solomona, Hughes, Luia, Kafusii etc. made themselves available for other countries?

The difference with the 2021 RLWC is that all team players get equal participation money and expenses so it is not going to be a penny pinching trip for the likes of Fiji and Tonga.

Do it guys - do it!!

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Just now, Damien said:

They have already issued a statement saying they met every demand. As the NZRL have changed their tune in a week I know who I am inclined to believe.

It’s a pity that we didn’t have a representative from the RL World Cup then to refute what Peters was saying.

That’s the usual format for Newsnight = two contributors with opposing views being reffed by the Newsnight presenter.

I’m not blaming the BBC or the RLWC organisers, but it was a pity.

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Just now, Gerrumonside ref said:

It’s a pity that we didn’t have a representative from the RL World Cup then to refute what Peters was saying.

That’s the usual format for Newsnight = two contributors with opposing views being reffed by the Newsnight presenter.

I’m not blaming the BBC or the RLWC organisers, but it was a pity.

I would have loved to have seen Simon Johnson on it too.

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5 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Doubt NRL Clubs or The ARLC could stop players representing other NGBs in sanctioned tests, legally, so this will only effect Kangaroos & Kiwis. 

Legally, it looks as though you're right.

The issue would be the pressure they could put on the other NGBs to pull out. I just hope they don't buckle.

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1 minute ago, Damien said:

I would actually like the organisers to give competing nations a little sweetener to stay in the world cup. Give every country £100k as an incentive. Let's fight fire with fire.

Divvy up the money that the defaulters would have got among the committed nations and you don't even spend a penny more than the budget.

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1 minute ago, Smudger06 said:

Players that have already played a test for a tier 1 nation cannot then play for another tier 1 or a tier 2 side, but tier 2 national players can elect to play for a tier 1 nation later, should they qualify. 

So rules out any players that already have a cap for the Kiwis or Kangaroos switching allegiance. 

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3 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

So rules out any players that already have a cap for the Kiwis or Kangaroos switching allegiance. 

I’m sure it doesn’t, unless I’ve misinterpreted what you’re saying.

a kiwi can’t play for Australia and vice-versa but that doesn’t stop them switching to Italy, Scotland, Russia etc - as far as I’m aware.

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1 minute ago, welshmagpie said:

I’m sure it doesn’t, unless I’ve misinterpreted what you’re saying.

a kiwi can’t play for Australia and vice-versa but that doesn’t stop them switching to Italy, Scotland, Russia etc - as far as I’m aware.

Yes sorry, can't swap between tier 1 nations and can't swap at all in the same calendar year. They've changed rules last year and complicated them. 

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1 minute ago, welshmagpie said:

I’m sure it doesn’t, unless I’ve misinterpreted what you’re saying.

a kiwi can’t play for Australia and vice-versa but that doesn’t stop them switching to Italy, Scotland, Russia etc - as far as I’m aware.

Yeah this is correct. The only constraint upon the current iteration of IRL eligibility rules is that you can only represent one nation in a calendar year, as there have been no tests between WC playing nations this year that won't be an issue. Origin has no impact on international eligibility either.

 

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18 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Doubt NRL Clubs or The ARLC could stop players representing other NGBs in sanctioned tests, legally, so this will only effect Kangaroos & Kiwis. 

This reminded me of the clip from a few days ago. After about 30 seconds it spells out what the NRL are going to do. It's nonsense, it's absurd but it's quite obvious that everything that has happened today has been leaked to the media over weeks:

 

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4 minutes ago, Damien said:

This reminded me of the clip from a few days ago. After about 30 seconds it spells out what the NRL are going to do. It's nonsense, it's absurd but it's quite obvious that everything that has happened today has been leaked to the media over weeks:

 

What a bunch of arrogant kn@bs I said it earlier and I'll say it again, I'm through with them until or if they ever atone. 

Doubt there's loopholes to be found but looks like they will apply pressure to players as well as Southern hemisphere NGBs ~ absolute filth. 

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1 minute ago, Smudger06 said:

What a bunch of arrogant kn@bs I said it earlier and I'll say it again, I'm through with them until or if they ever atone. 

Doubt there's loopholes to be found but looks like they will apply pressure to players as well as Southern hemisphere NGBs ~ absolute filth. 

By pressure I mean bully. 

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2 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

What a bunch of arrogant kn@bs I said it earlier and I'll say it again, I'm through with them until or if they ever atone. 

Doubt there's loopholes to be found but looks like they will apply pressure to players as well as Southern hemisphere NGBs ~ absolute filth. 

That's why I said earlier, pay the countries a sweetener to take part. Do whatever it takes. The PI countries get nothing, Tonga got nothing from the Aussie test that had 1 million plus profit. Pay them all off.

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Listening to Peters on Newsnight infuriated me. He referred to "the logistical nightmare of returning 500 players from the northern hemisphere to Australasia at the end of the tournament." However his only concern should be the 24 or so NZ players. The fact he talks about 500 refers to all NRL players and again shows the real agenda at play.

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4 minutes ago, Damien said:

Listening to Peters on Newsnight infuriated me. He referred to "the logistical nightmare of returning 500 players from the northern hemisphere to Australasia at the end of the tournament." However his only concern should be the 24 or so NZ players. The fact he talks about 500 refers to all NRL players and again shows the real agenda at play.

Yep, complete rubbish … the 500 players don't all return at once, after 2 weeks 8 teams are eliminated, for example!!! 

The actual number of returning players from the northern hemisphere to Australasia at the END of the tournament is about 40, from the two teams that make the final !!

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2 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:

Would it really be so bad to move it to 2022?

Yes.

One argument coming from Peters is that NZ players won't get vaccinated. How does moving it to 2022 solve that? It doesn't. Will 2022 be much different? Due to Australia's and NZ's covid approaches it won't be for them. Covid will still be here next year. Every argument is just nonsensical.

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