Rimmer is off

[Barley Mow]

31 minutes ago, yipyee said:

Indeed but let's not go down that path anymore.

It needs someone with vision and a plan for growth. Usually growth is expansion to new areas as well as maximising what you already have.

As I understand it, that's what IMG have been brought onboard for.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with and how they SL and RFL will work together functionally.

[Gordon Street]

12 hours ago, LeeF said:

That will be down to the RLWC media department not the RFL or Rimmer

who are RFL appointees, and I wasn't just referring to the World Cup. 

 

[LeeF]

41 minutes ago, Gordon Street said:

who are RFL appointees, and I wasn't just referring to the World Cup. 

 

Your original post clearly only referred to the World Cup

[Gordon Street]

2 minutes ago, LeeF said:

Your original post clearly only referred to the World Cup

no, I said; 'constantly, particularly in relation to the World Cup'. 

[LeeF]

40 minutes ago, Gordon Street said:

no, I said; 'constantly, particularly in relation to the World Cup'. 

My point made. Maybe if you mean something else you should be clearer?

[Gordon Street]

1 minute ago, LeeF said:

My point made. Maybe if you mean something else you should be clearer?

it was clear; a particular is a specific example. The World Cup is a specific example. Basic English. 

[LeeF]

46 minutes ago, Gordon Street said:

it was clear; a particular is a specific example. The World Cup is a specific example. Basic English. 

Nope. Keep deluding yourself

[sweaty craiq]

17 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Don't think decisions on the onfield sport and development of the game should be left to clerks personally.

No, you need a passionate leader taking the sport forward but you said that was IMG

[Gordon Street]

29 minutes ago, LeeF said:

Nope. Keep deluding yourself

keep taking the basic literacy and social skills classes.

[Number 16]

24 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

No, you need a passionate leader taking the sport forward but you said that was IMG

Passionate in what way? If passion was the main criteria then you have thousands of fans you could select from, in fact Beaumont would be in the frame for CEO (but God help RL)!

Sure, the new head needs passion, but I'd rather it is a passion to do a first class job and a passion to deliver significant improvements and benefits to RL. It doesn't have to be someone who believes RL is TGG. We need an influencer, communicator and leader with the hide of a rhino and a list of contacts the length of the yellow pages. 

[Gordon Street]

6 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

Passionate in what way? If passion was the main criteria then you have thousands of fans you could select from, in fact Beaumont would be in the frame for CEO (but God help RL)!

Sure, the new head needs passion, but I'd rather it is a passion to do a first class job and a passion to deliver significant improvements and benefits to RL. It doesn't have to be someone who believes RL is TGG. We need an influencer, communicator and leader with the hide of a rhino and a list of contacts the length of the yellow pages. 

well said. On the other hand we could have Dave from Dave's Vinyls and Carpets from under the railway arches who always puts a few quid behind the bar for the lads and get's into fights with the coach if he doesn't pick his favourite player.

[Tommygilf]

39 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

No, you need a passionate leader taking the sport forward but you said that was IMG

Commercially yes, but that doesn't mean they need to deal with development officers as well

[RS]

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[sweaty craiq]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

Commercially yes, but that doesn't mean they need to deal with development officers as well

Clerks can deal with that aspect, a good pen pusher can feed whatever info is needed- how many development officers do we have

[sweaty craiq]

1 hour ago, Number 16 said:

Passionate in what way? If passion was the main criteria then you have thousands of fans you could select from, in fact Beaumont would be in the frame for CEO (but God help RL)!

Sure, the new head needs passion, but I'd rather it is a passion to do a first class job and a passion to deliver significant improvements and benefits to RL. It doesn't have to be someone who believes RL is TGG. We need an influencer, communicator and leader with the hide of a rhino and a list of contacts the length of the yellow pages. 

Is that a serious reply- whether top or bottom of the pile without passion potential will never be reached. The skills that go with the passion will vary level by level

[Tommygilf]

8 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

Clerks can deal with that aspect, a good pen pusher can feed whatever info is needed- how many development officers do we have

Clerks and pen pushers don't make decisions

[LeeF]

1 hour ago, Gordon Street said:

keep taking the basic literacy and social skills classes.

Welcome back 

[JohnM]

21 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

Is that a serious reply- whether top or bottom of the pile without passion potential will never be reached. The skills that go with the passion will vary level by level

There's a lot more to it than "passion" however that may be characterized. 

It's maybe an old piece of work, but still valid, in mt view.

https://www.betterup.com/blog/types-of-power

[Number 16]

44 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

Is that a serious reply- whether top or bottom of the pile without passion potential will never be reached. The skills that go with the passion will vary level by level

Open your other eye!

I was referring to only the top level. You introduced everything downward.

No... a new CEO doesn't need to have the same passion as a supporter from a village in Lancashire. 

[Blind side johnny]

On 05/09/2022 at 19:51, Tommygilf said:

Not seen all that much sadness in reaction to this. 

Karen Moorhouse departing the RFL too.

There's a Mick Gledhill video doing the rounds again too.

Yes, just a load of bile from the usual suspects who have no idea of the amount of work, or otherwise, that these people put into their jobs.

I seem to recall nothing but praise from many clubs following the massive effort that was put into arranging a rescue package during the Covid crisis (remember that?).

[sweaty craiq]

15 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

Open your other eye!

I was referring to only the top level. You introduced everything downward.

No... a new CEO doesn't need to have the same passion as a supporter from a village in Lancashire. 

Spoken like a state paid employee

[idrewthehaggis]

3 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

No, you need a passionate leader taking the sport forward but you said that was IMG

The allure of the "charismatic"leader is tempting, especially if you think matters need changing.

All I wail say is that the depth of the new CEO's "passion" may be important for some, whilst others may ask for competence as the guide, it is really the whole manner of the RFL's direction that needs reforming.

A new person at the helm won't make much difference if it is continuity Wood et Rimmer and the same outcomes.

[Gordon Street]

59 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

Open your other eye!

I was referring to only the top level. You introduced everything downward.

No... a new CEO doesn't need to have the same passion as a supporter from a village in Lancashire. 

this word passion is getting bandied about . It takes many forms, and manifests itself in different ways. It's become a weasel word, a catch all. I'm sure there are better, more meaningful words that describe the qualities needed. 

[Gordon Street]

55 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

Spoken like a state paid employee

such as a nurse, a paramedic, a teacher, a police officer, refuse collector, member of the defence services, or a fire fighter. I had careers at senior levels in two of those professions and I'm proud of the fact. 

[Number 16]

1 hour ago, sweaty craiq said:

Spoken like a state paid employee

Nah... spoken like someone in the private sector, formerly self-employed and small business owner, with an offer in on another business. 

How many threads do you derail? (There's a certain irony there!).

And how many shoulders do you have because you've got a chip on each, but have more than two chips.