France Depth

[NRLandSL]

I’ve made a Depth chart for France

FB-

1-Arthur Mourge

2-Morgan Escaré

3-Tanguy Zenon

4-Romain Franco

5-Baptiste Fabre

Thomas Lasvens, Antony Maurel

 

WG-

1-Fouad Yaha

2-Benjamin Laguerre

3-Paul Marcon

4-Georgy Gambaro

5-Ilias Bergal

6-Mike Parenti

7-Quentin Crunel

8-Corentin Rey

9-Nittim Pedrero

10-Hugo Lescouzeres

Matteo Stefani, Anthony Guidez, Alexis Escamilla, Elie Sastre, Francois Therezin, Jordan Flovie

 

CE-

1-Arthur Romano

2-Matthieu Laguerre

3-Samisoni Langi

4-Mathieu Jussaume

5-Hakim Miloudi

6-Louis Carre

7-PJ Lima

8-Vincent Albert

9-Hugo Pezet

10-Enzo Griffier

Justin Tropis, Sophien Bitgiri, Bastien Ader, Arthur Salles, Theo Bonneriez, Thibault Marty

 

HA-

1-Theo Fages

2-Cesar Rougé 

3-Robin Brochon

4-Thomas Lacans

5-Tony Gigot

6-Louis Jouffret

7-Lucas Albert

8-Clement Herrero

9-Allan Torreilles

10-Thomas Monclus

Alexis Alberola, Thibault Franck, Valentin Zafra, Adrien Salies, Valentin Dumas, Hakim Belhardi, Luc Franco

 

PR-

1-Julian Bousquet

2-Justin Sangaré 

3-Romain Navarette

4-Matthieu Cozza

5-Jordan Dezaria

6-Lambert Belmas

7-Dimitri Biscarro

8-Hugo Salabio

9-Gadwin Springer

10-Tiaki Chan

Bastien Scimone, Clement Boyer, Damel Diakhate, Maxime Puech, Florian Vailhen, Valentin Yesa, Mathias Marty, Franck Maria, Bastien Escamilla, Romain Khedimi, Sacha Kouassi, Maxime Garcia

 

HK-

1-Alrix Da Costa

2-Eloi Pelissier

3-Ugo Tison

4-Amir Bourouh*

5-Justin Bouscayrol

Stephane Guillon, Lucas Ribas, Matthieu Khedimi, Mateo Lacans, Yacine Ben Abdeslem, Mathieu Liauzun

 

SR-

1-Paul Seguier

2-Mickael Goudemand

3-Maxime Stefani

4-Benjamin Jullien

5-Corentin Le Cam

6-Yann Belmaaziz

7-Leo Laurent

8-Leo Llong

9-Hnaloan Budden

10-Kevin Larroyer

Ugo Perez, Jayson Goffin, Dorian Brioux, Guillermo Aispuro-Bichet, Luc Brocas, Benjamin Vergniol, Baptiste Dumbertrand, Baptiste Rodriguez, Ilyes Sayah

 

LK-

1-Benjamin Garcia

2-Anthony Marion

3-Lucas Vergniol

4-Loan Castano

5-Djibryl Dauliac

Jason Baitieri, Anthony Ors, Wali Skoundri,  Louis Grosemmy, Bastien Canet, Esteban Hermosilla

I’m not too educated on Elite 1 so some off it may be a bit off but I’ve tried to be as accurate as possible. A lot of depth in the Front Row for France, but I would say there outside backs and back row need some work.

Edited November 9, 2023 by NRLandSL

[ATLANTISMAN]

Fair summary hopefully the best team will be available for the home test v England in Perpignan in June 

[Barley Mow]

2 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

Fair summary hopefully the best team will be available for the home test v England in Perpignan in June 

Is that a confirmed fixture Paul?

[Kirmonds pouch]

1 hour ago, NRLandSL said:

I’ve made a Depth chart for France

FB-

1-Arthur Mourge

2-Morgan Escaré

3-Tanguy Zenon

4-Romain Franco

5-Baptiste Fabre

Thomas Lasvens, Antony Maurel

 

WG-

1-Fouad Yaha

2-Benjamin Laguerre

3-Paul Marcon

4-Georgy Gambaro

5-Ilias Bergal

6-Mike Parenti

7-Quentin Crunel

8-Corentin Rey

9-Nittim Pedrero

10-Hugo Lescouzeres

Matteo Stefani, Anthony Guidez, Alexis Escamilla, Elie Sastre, Francois Therezin, Jordan Flovie

 

CE-

1-Arthur Romano

2-Matthieu Laguerre

3-Samisoni Langi

4-Mathieu Jussaume

5-Hakim Miloudi

6-Louis Carre

7-PJ Lima

8-Vincent Albert

9-Hugo Pezet

10-Enzo Griffier

Justin Tropis, Sophien Bitgiri, Bastien Ader, Arthur Salles, Theo Bonneriez, Thibault Marty

 

HA-

1-Theo Fages

2-Cesar Rougé 

3-Robin Brochon

4-Thomas Lacans

5-Tony Gigot

6-Louis Jouffret

7-Lucas Albert

8-Clement Herrero

9-Allan Torreilles

10-Thomas Monclus

Alexis Alberola, Thibault Franck, Valentin Zafra, Adrien Salies, Valentin Dumas, Hakim Belhardi, Luc Franco

 

PR-

1-Julian Bousquet

2-Justin Sangaré 

3-Romain Navarette

4-Matthieu Cozza

5-Jordan Dezaria

6-Lambert Belmas

7-Dimitri Biscarro

8-Hugo Salabio

9-Gadwin Springer

10-Tiaki Chan

Bastien Scimone, Clement Boyer, Damel Diakhate, Maxime Puech, Florian Vailhen, Valentin Yesa, Mathias Marty, Franck Maria, Bastien Escamilla, Romain Khedimi, Sacha Kouassi, Maxime Garcia

 

HK-

1-Alrix Da Costa

2-Eloi Pelissier

3-Ugo Tison

4-Amir Bourouh*

5-Justin Bouscayrol

Stephane Guillon, Lucas Ribas, Matthieu Khedimi, Mateo Lacans, Yacine Ben Abdeslem, Mathieu Liauzun

 

SR-

1-Paul Seguier

2-Mickael Goudemand

3-Maxime Stefani

4-Benjamin Jullien

5-Corentin Le Cam

6-Yann Belmaaziz

7-Leo Laurent

8-Leo Llong

9-Hnaloan Budden

10-Kevin Larroyer

Ugo Perez, Jayson Goffin, Dorian Brioux, Guillermo Aispuro-Bichet, Luc Brocas, Benjamin Vergniol, Baptiste Dumbertrand, Baptiste Rodriguez, Ilyes Sayah

 

LK-

1-Benjamin Garcia

2-Anthony Marion

3-Lucas Vergniol

4-Loan Castano

5-Djibryl Dauliac

Jason Baitieri, Anthony Ors, Wali Skoundri,  Louis Grosemmy, Bastien Canet, Esteban Hermosilla

I’m not too educated on Elite 1 so some off it may be a bit off but I’ve tried to be as accurate as possible. A lot of depth in the Front Row for France, but I would say there outside backs and back row need some work.

Is this just French players who play in the French comp? If not you've missed a couple playing in the UK.

FWIW, it's not a lack of players that lets France down, though they are clearly weaker than most, it's the coaching set up. Other than at Catalan, it appears to be almost non existent. Also, and I may be wrong here, but from a neutrals perspective, French players, especially those at Catalan don't seem to see playing for France as much of an honour - don't think I've seen what I would call a full strength French team in years.

Edited November 9, 2023 by Kirmonds pouch

[JM2010]

4 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Is this just French players who play in the French comp? If not you've missed a couple playing in the UK.

Who else should be added?

[Kirmonds pouch]

22 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

Who else should be added?

None looking again, I've just noticed Romain Franco is actually in the FB section, he should be in the wings section, trust me, no way is that lad a FB

[Lowdesert]

36 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Is this just French players who play in the French comp? If not you've missed a couple playing in the UK.

FWIW, it's not a lack of players that lets France down, though they are clearly weaker than most, it's the coaching set up. Other than at Catalan, it appears to be almost non existent. Also, and I may be wrong here, but from a neutrals perspective, French players, especially those at Catalan don't seem to see playing for France as much of an honour - don't think I've seen what I would call a full strength French team in years.

How can the French coaching set up be none existent with Toulouse Olympique and the Elite Competitions going on?  

[kiggy]

3 hours ago, NRLandSL said:

I’ve made a Depth chart for France

FB-

1-Arthur Mourge

2-Morgan Escaré

3-Tanguy Zenon

4-Romain Franco

5-Baptiste Fabre

Thomas Lasvens, Antony Maurel

 

WG-

1-Fouad Yaha

2-Benjamin Laguerre

3-Paul Marcon

4-Georgy Gambaro

5-Ilias Bergal

6-Mike Parenti

7-Quentin Crunel

8-Corentin Rey

9-Nittim Pedrero

10-Hugo Lescouzeres

Matteo Stefani, Anthony Guidez, Alexis Escamilla, Elie Sastre, Francois Therezin, Jordan Flovie

 

CE-

1-Arthur Romano

2-Matthieu Laguerre

3-Samisoni Langi

4-Mathieu Jussaume

5-Hakim Miloudi

6-Louis Carre

7-PJ Lima

8-Vincent Albert

9-Hugo Pezet

10-Enzo Griffier

Justin Tropis, Sophien Bitgiri, Bastien Ader, Arthur Salles, Theo Bonneriez, Thibault Marty

 

HA-

1-Theo Fages

2-Cesar Rougé 

3-Robin Brochon

4-Thomas Lacans

5-Tony Gigot

6-Louis Jouffret

7-Lucas Albert

8-Clement Herrero

9-Allan Torreilles

10-Thomas Monclus

Alexis Alberola, Thibault Franck, Valentin Zafra, Adrien Salies, Valentin Dumas, Hakim Belhardi, Luc Franco

 

PR-

1-Julian Bousquet

2-Justin Sangaré 

3-Romain Navarette

4-Matthieu Cozza

5-Jordan Dezaria

6-Lambert Belmas

7-Dimitri Biscarro

8-Hugo Salabio

9-Gadwin Springer

10-Tiaki Chan

Bastien Scimone, Clement Boyer, Damel Diakhate, Maxime Puech, Florian Vailhen, Valentin Yesa, Mathias Marty, Franck Maria, Bastien Escamilla, Romain Khedimi, Sacha Kouassi, Maxime Garcia

 

HK-

1-Alrix Da Costa

2-Eloi Pelissier

3-Ugo Tison

4-Amir Bourouh*

5-Justin Bouscayrol

Stephane Guillon, Lucas Ribas, Matthieu Khedimi, Mateo Lacans, Yacine Ben Abdeslem, Mathieu Liauzun

 

SR-

1-Paul Seguier

2-Mickael Goudemand

3-Maxime Stefani

4-Benjamin Jullien

5-Corentin Le Cam

6-Yann Belmaaziz

7-Leo Laurent

8-Leo Llong

9-Hnaloan Budden

10-Kevin Larroyer

Ugo Perez, Jayson Goffin, Dorian Brioux, Guillermo Aispuro-Bichet, Luc Brocas, Benjamin Vergniol, Baptiste Dumbertrand, Baptiste Rodriguez, Ilyes Sayah

 

LK-

1-Benjamin Garcia

2-Anthony Marion

3-Lucas Vergniol

4-Loan Castano

5-Djibryl Dauliac

Jason Baitieri, Anthony Ors, Wali Skoundri,  Louis Grosemmy, Bastien Canet, Esteban Hermosilla

I’m not too educated on Elite 1 so some off it may be a bit off but I’ve tried to be as accurate as possible. A lot of depth in the Front Row for France, but I would say there outside backs and back row need some work.

That's some tiptop work there, great work.

I would put Robin Brochon at FB to be honest.

Gigot won't be around much longer.

A proper résumé would be to do a full review on anyone less than 25, as that is where the future lies

 

[ATLANTISMAN]

2 hours ago, Barley Mow said:

Is that a confirmed fixture Paul?

According to now 5 SL CEO,s Yes + Gilles Dumas confirmed to me that it looked like it was on.

Edited November 9, 2023 by ATLANTISMAN

[Coco]

Fantastic list. Are Super League sides exploring the opportunity in signing these players.  Compared to the Southern Hemisphere players, they would not cost that much, and would help develop the sport in the Northern hemisphere further. 

Would not mind at all that the London Broncos looked into this.  It's a no brainer to me. I am aware that the club are focusing on developing their academy players, but picking a few of these French players, would be handy additions to the squad. Plus would not cost them that much. 

[Barley Mow]

4 minutes ago, Coco said:

Fantastic list. Are Super League sides exploring the opportunity in signing these players.  Compared to the Southern Hemisphere players, they would not cost that much, and would help develop the sport in the Northern hemisphere further. 

Would not mind at all that the London Broncos looked into this.  It's a no brainer to me. I am aware that the club are focusing on developing their academy players, but picking a few of these French players, would be handy additions to the squad. Plus would not cost them that much. 

Some already play for Catalans and Toulouse in SL and Championship. Others already play for English SL and Championship clubs.

I'm sure that Catalans, Toulouse and English professional clubs would sign up any others that they consider would improve their squads.

[Coco]

I agree they would. There are a lot of names on the list provided. Would love to see the Broncos sign a few and give them the Same development they are doing so successfully with the academy boys.

 

[NRLandSL]

6 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Is this just French players who play in the French comp? If not you've missed a couple playing in the UK.

I haven’t missed any players, playing in the UK.

[NRLandSL]

3 hours ago, Coco said:

I agree they would. There are a lot of names on the list provided. Would love to see the Broncos sign a few and give them the Same development they are doing so successfully with the academy boys.

 

In terms of French players in Australia, the roosters have 2 supossidley not 100% sure if they’ve resigned but Enzo Griffier and Sacha Kouassi both played jersey Flegg last year. Baptiste Fabre plays for the Brisbane Tigers (though currently on a short stint back in France) Played mostly Hastings Deering Colts this year but will probably be playing QLD Cup next year.

Also Hnaloan Budden is a QLD cup regular from New Caladonia who has recently made a move to Saint Gaudens. (Also Joe Chan is practically raised in France but prefers to play for NZ)

Edited November 9, 2023 by NRLandSL

[welshmagpie]

42 minutes ago, NRLandSL said:

In terms of French players in Australia, the roosters have 2 supossidley not 100% sure if they’ve resigned but Enzo Griffier and Sacha Kouassi both played jersey Flegg last year. Baptiste Fabre plays for the Brisbane Tigers (though currently on a short stint back in France) Played mostly Hastings Deering Colts this year but will probably be playing QLD Cup next year.

Also Hnaloan Budden is a QLD cup regular from New Caladonia who has recently made a move to Saint Gaudens. (Also Joe Chan is practically raised in France but prefers to play for NZ)

@HeCanPlayFor

on social media will show you some more pal. 

[NRLandSL]

7 hours ago, welshmagpie said:

@HeCanPlayFor

on social media will show you some more pal. 

Yeah I know guys like Grossemy and some other QLD Cup guys are eligible but they are just heritage eligible not Domestic players.

[Archie Gordon]

16 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

Fair summary hopefully the best team will be available ...

What can best ensure that happens? We can't afford France putting another sub-standard team out. Did anyone review the Warrington shambles? Are the players the problem? TO and/or Catalans to blame? What incentives are needed?

[Kirmonds pouch]

15 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

How can the French coaching set up be none existent with Toulouse Olympique and the Elite Competitions going on?  

For god sake I’m on about the international set up. Though to seriously suggest that coaching at the elite levels is anything close to SL or the NRL or even the Championship is utterly laughable 

[Archie Gordon]

13 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

For god sake I’m on about the international set up. Though to seriously suggest that coaching at the elite levels is anything close to SL or the NRL or even the Championship is utterly laughable 

People like Trent Robinson and Laurent Frayssinous?

[oiseau]

19 hours ago, NRLandSL said:

I’ve made a Depth chart for France

FB-

1-Arthur Mourge

2-Morgan Escaré

3-Tanguy Zenon

4-Romain Franco

5-Baptiste Fabre

Thomas Lasvens, Antony Maurel

 

WG-

1-Fouad Yaha

2-Benjamin Laguerre

3-Paul Marcon

4-Georgy Gambaro

5-Ilias Bergal

6-Mike Parenti

7-Quentin Crunel

8-Corentin Rey

9-Nittim Pedrero

10-Hugo Lescouzeres

Matteo Stefani, Anthony Guidez, Alexis Escamilla, Elie Sastre, Francois Therezin, Jordan Flovie

 

CE-

1-Arthur Romano

2-Matthieu Laguerre

3-Samisoni Langi

4-Mathieu Jussaume

5-Hakim Miloudi

6-Louis Carre

7-PJ Lima

8-Vincent Albert

9-Hugo Pezet

10-Enzo Griffier

Justin Tropis, Sophien Bitgiri, Bastien Ader, Arthur Salles, Theo Bonneriez, Thibault Marty

 

HA-

1-Theo Fages

2-Cesar Rougé 

3-Robin Brochon

4-Thomas Lacans

5-Tony Gigot

6-Louis Jouffret

7-Lucas Albert

8-Clement Herrero

9-Allan Torreilles

10-Thomas Monclus

Alexis Alberola, Thibault Franck, Valentin Zafra, Adrien Salies, Valentin Dumas, Hakim Belhardi, Luc Franco

 

PR-

1-Julian Bousquet

2-Justin Sangaré 

3-Romain Navarette

4-Matthieu Cozza

5-Jordan Dezaria

6-Lambert Belmas

7-Dimitri Biscarro

8-Hugo Salabio

9-Gadwin Springer

10-Tiaki Chan

Bastien Scimone, Clement Boyer, Damel Diakhate, Maxime Puech, Florian Vailhen, Valentin Yesa, Mathias Marty, Franck Maria, Bastien Escamilla, Romain Khedimi, Sacha Kouassi, Maxime Garcia

 

HK-

1-Alrix Da Costa

2-Eloi Pelissier

3-Ugo Tison

4-Amir Bourouh*

5-Justin Bouscayrol

Stephane Guillon, Lucas Ribas, Matthieu Khedimi, Mateo Lacans, Yacine Ben Abdeslem, Mathieu Liauzun

 

SR-

1-Paul Seguier

2-Mickael Goudemand

3-Maxime Stefani

4-Benjamin Jullien

5-Corentin Le Cam

6-Yann Belmaaziz

7-Leo Laurent

8-Leo Llong

9-Hnaloan Budden

10-Kevin Larroyer

Ugo Perez, Jayson Goffin, Dorian Brioux, Guillermo Aispuro-Bichet, Luc Brocas, Benjamin Vergniol, Baptiste Dumbertrand, Baptiste Rodriguez, Ilyes Sayah

 

LK-

1-Benjamin Garcia

2-Anthony Marion

3-Lucas Vergniol

4-Loan Castano

5-Djibryl Dauliac

Jason Baitieri, Anthony Ors, Wali Skoundri,  Louis Grosemmy, Bastien Canet, Esteban Hermosilla

I’m not too educated on Elite 1 so some off it may be a bit off but I’ve tried to be as accurate as possible. A lot of depth in the Front Row for France, but I would say there outside backs and back row need some work.

Good listings. You put Robin Brochon (TO13) third in the half back line and he has improved with each game. I would put him down as a contender for player of the season though I suppose Josh Ralph and Zac Santo to name a few would contest that. Robin looked just as accomplished during the early games in the season playing at fullback. A handy kicker too.

[welshmagpie]

4 hours ago, NRLandSL said:

Yeah I know guys like Grossemy and some other QLD Cup guys are eligible but they are just heritage eligible not Domestic players.

Apologies I misinterpreted 

[Harry Stottle]

On 09/11/2023 at 13:27, NRLandSL said:

I’ve made a Depth chart for France

FB-

1-Arthur Mourge

2-Morgan Escaré

3-Tanguy Zenon

4-Romain Franco

5-Baptiste Fabre

Thomas Lasvens, Antony Maurel

 

WG-

1-Fouad Yaha

2-Benjamin Laguerre

3-Paul Marcon

4-Georgy Gambaro

5-Ilias Bergal

6-Mike Parenti

7-Quentin Crunel

8-Corentin Rey

9-Nittim Pedrero

10-Hugo Lescouzeres

Matteo Stefani, Anthony Guidez, Alexis Escamilla, Elie Sastre, Francois Therezin, Jordan Flovie

 

CE-

1-Arthur Romano

2-Matthieu Laguerre

3-Samisoni Langi

4-Mathieu Jussaume

5-Hakim Miloudi

6-Louis Carre

7-PJ Lima

8-Vincent Albert

9-Hugo Pezet

10-Enzo Griffier

Justin Tropis, Sophien Bitgiri, Bastien Ader, Arthur Salles, Theo Bonneriez, Thibault Marty

 

HA-

1-Theo Fages

2-Cesar Rougé 

3-Robin Brochon

4-Thomas Lacans

5-Tony Gigot

6-Louis Jouffret

7-Lucas Albert

8-Clement Herrero

9-Allan Torreilles

10-Thomas Monclus

Alexis Alberola, Thibault Franck, Valentin Zafra, Adrien Salies, Valentin Dumas, Hakim Belhardi, Luc Franco

 

PR-

1-Julian Bousquet

2-Justin Sangaré 

3-Romain Navarette

4-Matthieu Cozza

5-Jordan Dezaria

6-Lambert Belmas

7-Dimitri Biscarro

8-Hugo Salabio

9-Gadwin Springer

10-Tiaki Chan

Bastien Scimone, Clement Boyer, Damel Diakhate, Maxime Puech, Florian Vailhen, Valentin Yesa, Mathias Marty, Franck Maria, Bastien Escamilla, Romain Khedimi, Sacha Kouassi, Maxime Garcia

 

HK-

1-Alrix Da Costa

2-Eloi Pelissier

3-Ugo Tison

4-Amir Bourouh*

5-Justin Bouscayrol

Stephane Guillon, Lucas Ribas, Matthieu Khedimi, Mateo Lacans, Yacine Ben Abdeslem, Mathieu Liauzun

 

SR-

1-Paul Seguier

2-Mickael Goudemand

3-Maxime Stefani

4-Benjamin Jullien

5-Corentin Le Cam

6-Yann Belmaaziz

7-Leo Laurent

8-Leo Llong

9-Hnaloan Budden

10-Kevin Larroyer

Ugo Perez, Jayson Goffin, Dorian Brioux, Guillermo Aispuro-Bichet, Luc Brocas, Benjamin Vergniol, Baptiste Dumbertrand, Baptiste Rodriguez, Ilyes Sayah

 

LK-

1-Benjamin Garcia

2-Anthony Marion

3-Lucas Vergniol

4-Loan Castano

5-Djibryl Dauliac

Jason Baitieri, Anthony Ors, Wali Skoundri,  Louis Grosemmy, Bastien Canet, Esteban Hermosilla

I’m not too educated on Elite 1 so some off it may be a bit off but I’ve tried to be as accurate as possible. A lot of depth in the Front Row for France, but I would say there outside backs and back row need some work.

Pick your best 17 from that list, and they would still require 40/50 start against England's strongest 17, all those French born who are not with the Catalan club at the present time are obviously not of SL quality or they would be with Catalan.

And who would guide them around the field? From the '23 Catalans take away Tomkins, Pearce, McIlorum and May, and add to that ever presents or first choice players such as Keighran, Johnstone, Davies, McMeekin, Whitley and Ma'o and it doesn't leave the French with a great deal of quality to select from for the national team.