The Super League Trophy

[sam4731]

Not sure how this will go down but here goes.

Thought I'd start a petition for the name of the trophy to be changed to honour two legends of the game.

https://chng.it/7bM9Dg9dgM

[ATLANTISMAN]

Just get a new trophy 

[Damien]

No not for me. I don't particularly see the need to name trophies after anyone.

[Click]

I would be happy to rename the MoM in the GF for Burrow, as others have said. I don't think literally copying the NRL trophy is the way to go though ..

[RigbyLuger]

27 minutes ago, Click said:

I would be happy to rename the MoM in the GF for Burrow, as others have said. I don't think literally copying the NRL trophy is the way to go though ..

It almost as if we're going to wait until it's too late to do it properly. The Man of Steel Award was named after the wrong person, so we have form for that. (Prescott was known for his charity work and not for being the best player in the competition in any year, we could have done as the NFL do with their Walter Peyton Award, but got it wrong.)

[sam4731]

6 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:

It almost as if we're going to wait until it's too late to do it properly. The Man of Steel Award was named after the wrong person, so we have form for that. (Prescott was known for his charity work and not for being the best player in the competition in any year, we could have done as the NFL do with their Walter Peyton Award, but got it wrong.)

What?! Awards aren't always named for the best player but for an individual that has a profound impact on the sport unless I'm mistaken and Ray French commentated on a particularly good 1895 cup match or Harry Sunderland had a stormer at OT.

[Damien]

7 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:

It almost as if we're going to wait until it's too late to do it properly. The Man of Steel Award was named after the wrong person, so we have form for that. (Prescott was known for his charity work and not for being the best player in the competition in any year, we could have done as the NFL do with their Walter Peyton Award, but got it wrong.)

The trouble is this stuff is so subjective. Someone else comes along in 10 years and there will be the same kind of calls.

[RigbyLuger]

1 hour ago, sam4731 said:

What?! Awards aren't always named for the best player but for an individual that has a profound impact on the sport unless I'm mistaken and Ray French commentated on a particularly good 1895 cup match or Harry Sunderland had a stormer at OT.

The Man of Steel Award is awarded to the best player, the RFL, or Super League, made the wrong decision for the right reason in naming something after Steve Prescott. There were better ways of actually honouring his legacy as a person than an award which could have been named after a number of individuals. 

[Click]

1 hour ago, RigbyLuger said:

It almost as if we're going to wait until it's too late to do it properly. The Man of Steel Award was named after the wrong person, so we have form for that. (Prescott was known for his charity work and not for being the best player in the competition in any year, we could have done as the NFL do with their Walter Peyton Award, but got it wrong.)

I haven't got any problems with Prescott being on the MoS award, it doesn't have to be because he was or wasn't the best player, his name was put on the award for his contributions and influence rather than anything else.

It's why I have no problem with Burrow being on the MoM award, although he did win it himself before, it is for his whole story/career and life.

[Henson Park Old Firm]

I think it's a good idea, or at least name the lead leaders after them... But I do agree we should change the trophy.

[Gomersall]

3 hours ago, Damien said:

The trouble is this stuff is so subjective. Someone else comes along in 10 years and there will be the same kind of calls.

Wasn’t there a thread a few years back about taking Harry Sunderland’s name off the trophy named in his honour due to something he allegedly said?

[Ragingbull]

Terrible idea. 

[M j M]

Don't agree with this and didn't agree with the Man of Steel naming either.

Marginally more sympathetic to the renaming of the Harry Sunderland after Burrow. Partly because Sunderland has some question marks about him that we may want to address plus at least Burrow actually won it twice, once particularly spectacularly, so has an obvious link to the award and to the Grand Final as an event.

Overall though I think this sort of thing benefits from a bit more distance in time and some proper consideration.

[RigbyLuger]

20 minutes ago, M j M said:

Overall though I think this sort of thing benefits from a bit more distance in time and some proper consideration.

It's really strange how the coach of the year isn't named after a trailblazer, or the top points scorer isn't given the Neil Fox Trophy. They named the player of the match for the 1895 final, but nothing for the Women's Challenge Cup!

[JohnM]

If you agree, sign it. If you don't agree. don't sign it.  It's not doing well so far.

As for question marks about Sunderland, what is being questioned?

Edited December 11, 2023 by JohnM

[M j M]

1 hour ago, JohnM said:

If you agree, sign it. If you don't agree. don't sign it.  It's not doing well so far.

As for question marks about Sunderland, what is being questioned?

 

 

[JohnM]

Thanks for posting that and for avoiding directly calling Sunderland a racist . "Sentient being of the Match" award name  sits well with the über-socialist Collins.  Having listened,  I'm firmly in favour of keeping the Harry Sunderland Trophy exactly as it is. 

[Dave T]

10 hours ago, M j M said:

Don't agree with this and didn't agree with the Man of Steel naming either.

Marginally more sympathetic to the renaming of the Harry Sunderland after Burrow. Partly because Sunderland has some question marks about him that we may want to address plus at least Burrow actually won it twice, once particularly spectacularly, so has an obvious link to the award and to the Grand Final as an event.

Overall though I think this sort of thing benefits from a bit more distance in time and some proper consideration.

Agree completely. 

I don't think these decisions should be made based on emotion, which is exactly what was done with the MoS award.