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#1 my missus

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:55 PM

finally got my express today and am amazed to read nigel wood earns more than the prime minister! 62.000 a year more.
and, in these tight ###### days of the salary cap, he has had a 30.000 rise last year, the rl also paid 25.000 into a pension fund fot its highest paid director, presumably him.
i am all for paying folk a decent wage but ffs players are putting their bodies on the line every week for less. mad.gif

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#2 Tommy The C5t

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (my missus @ Jul 21 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
finally got my express today and am amazed to read nigel wood earns more than the prime minister! 62.000 a year more.
and, in these tight ###### days of the salary cap, he has had a 30.000 rise last year, the rl also paid 25.000 into a pension fund fot its highest paid director, presumably him.
i am all for paying folk a decent wage but ffs players are putting their bodies on the line every week for less. mad.gif


Come on now, he has to have a full fridge.

#3 Trojan

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (my missus @ Jul 21 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
finally got my express today and am amazed to read nigel wood earns more than the prime minister! 62.000 a year more.
and, in these tight ###### days of the salary cap, he has had a 30.000 rise last year, the rl also paid 25.000 into a pension fund fot its highest paid director, presumably him.
i am all for paying folk a decent wage but ffs players are putting their bodies on the line every week for less. mad.gif

Perhaps they could replace him with a private management company and save money. dry.gif
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#4 Jimmy B

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:59 PM

Disgraceful - who agreed to his wages ?
More than non SL clubs get !
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#5 Jeffles

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:07 PM

His pay would be approved by the RFL member clubs or RFL Council I think.

Comparing to the PM s not appropriate. It need to be compared against the chiefs of other national sporting bodies. A large salary is something that may be needed to attract the best available people in the market of sporting administrators.

One then has to see a breakdown of that figure. Is it tied to incentives for increasing revenue, government funding, sponsorship. TV money, participation etc?



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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:12 PM

It's a massively important job, I think we'd all agree?

His rise was probably down to him taking over as Chief Exec.

I've met the guy, he came across as someone who was working hard for something he loves, and gave us a lot of his time without hesitation in a chance meeting.

I'm not saying it's not a lot of money, but I guess it depends how much importance we place on being the head of our sport? I'd place an awful lot.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE (Jeffles @ Jul 21 2010, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His pay would be approved by the RFL member clubs or RFL Council I think.

Comparing to the PM s not appropriate. It need to be compared against the chiefs of other national sporting bodies. A large salary is something that may be needed to attract the best available people in the market of sporting administrators.

One then has to see a breakdown of that figure. Is it tied to incentives for increasing revenue, government funding, sponsorship. TV money, participation etc?



Compare his salary to David Gallop's. Then compare their work loads and performances.
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#8 PC

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:44 AM

Is this the same Nigel Wood who screwed up Halifax?

#9 Leeds Wire

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:15 AM

Compare the state of the RFL now with how it was before his appointment.

I'd say Mr Wood and his boss were doing a fantastic job.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:25 AM

QUOTE (my missus @ Jul 21 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
finally got my express today and am amazed to read nigel wood earns more than the prime minister! 62.000 a year more.
and, in these tight ###### days of the salary cap, he has had a 30.000 rise last year, the rl also paid 25.000 into a pension fund fot its highest paid director, presumably him.
i am all for paying folk a decent wage but ffs players are putting their bodies on the line every week for less. mad.gif


I have no particular comment to make on whether Mr Wood is worth the salary he is reportedly paid but to compare it to the Prime Minister is a little disingenuous. The basic pay may be more but when you factor in property allowances, benefits and pensions etc, the PM's remuneration package is worth well over 1 million per year.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (Leeds Wire @ Jul 22 2010, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Compare the state of the RFL now with how it was before his appointment.

I'd say Mr Wood and his boss were doing a fantastic job.


1OO% Agree.

#12 Phil Stone

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:37 AM

QUOTE (Leeds Wire @ Jul 22 2010, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Compare the state of the RFL now with how it was before his appointment.

I'd say Mr Wood and his boss were doing a fantastic job.


Try looking beyond Super League or talk to fans in the lower leagues and you might change your mind.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:51 AM

QUOTE (Bulligerent @ Jul 22 2010, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have no particular comment to make on whether Mr Wood is worth the salary he is reportedly paid but to compare it to the Prime Minister is a little disingenuous. The basic pay may be more but when you factor in property allowances, benefits and pensions etc, the PM's remuneration package is worth well over 1 million per year.

If you paid Mr Wood 1 million per year we still wouldn`t beat the Aussies

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:59 AM

QUOTE (Phil Stone @ Jul 22 2010, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try looking beyond Super League or talk to fans in the lower leagues and you might change your mind.


Why, how did they feel in 2000 when we had astronimical debts?

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:00 AM

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Is this the same Nigel Wood who screwed up Halifax?

Yes sadly it is!

QUOTE (Leeds Wire @ Jul 22 2010, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Compare the state of the RFL now with how it was before his appointment.

I'd say Mr Wood and his boss were doing a fantastic job.


In what way is he doing a fantastiuc job outside SL? Clubs are slowly dieing and attendances dropping slowly. Clubs like Gateshead and London Skolars are just about surviving-but are not growing at all.
The Franchise System is a joke as there is no way its transparent. A club wins the League and is not in debt and have a number of local players-i.e Widnes, Barrow and Fax and are refused promotion to the next level. Fans get fed up. Other teams like Crusaders giving way more help so that they get in to SL and even helped to sign players who do not have the right visa. Championship clubs are forced to except a stupid Bonus point System while SL not-Why not unilateral Points System? Sorry but for me the Game is not being well run outside of SL at all. The RFL should be covering all the game not just the bits it wants to do.

#16 The Future is League

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE (PC @ Jul 22 2010, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the same Nigel Wood who screwed up Halifax?


in what way?

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (revtype @ Jul 22 2010, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you paid Mr Wood 1 million per year we still wouldn`t beat the Aussies


Thats not Nigel Woods fault. thats the fault of certain clubs who would sooner pay a has been or never was player from the NRL rather than invest in junior development.

#18 RP London

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:34 AM

firstly just want to say it does seem an obscene amount of money to me
QUOTE (Lounge Room Lizard @ Jul 22 2010, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes sadly it is!



In what way is he doing a fantastiuc job outside SL? Clubs are slowly dieing and attendances dropping slowly. Clubs like Gateshead and London Skolars are just about surviving-but are not growing at all.

pre him taking over there were more clubs in worse financial positions.. lonon and gateshead were strugling along then too.. they are clubs that will strugle for some time and there is little/nothing that can be done about it by people at the top of the RFL.. they cannot magic supporters/sponsors/fantastic rent free stadiums out of the air
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The Franchise System is a joke as there is no way its transparent.

there are/were certainly issues with it, IIRC he wasnt in charge of it first time around Lewis was still the top active honcho at the time (thoughi may be wrong) maybe we should wait till the next round before judging wood on this point
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A club wins the League and is not in debt and have a number of local players-i.e Widnes, Barrow and Fax and are refused promotion to the next level.

surely that contradict the first point of it not being transparent.. if they did start to get promoted it would be odd.. it is a 3 year liscnece, these championhips allow the clubs to apply for a liscnece next time around these are the rules and they are well known.
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Fans get fed up.

fans also got fed up with their clubs going bust when they got relegated or pushed for promotion also, and when they were merged with other clubs, and whn they get relegated, then promoted then relegated etc becuase the gap was too large.. you cant please everyone all the time
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Other teams like Crusaders giving way more help so that they get in to SL and even helped to sign players who do not have the right visa.

i dont believe the RFL have been charged with any wrong doing over this, nor anyone at the crusaders.. so at the moment it is the players at fault, unless youhave proof at whih point i suggest handing it to te CPS. Yes the Crusaders were given help by the RFL in he way they were allowed felxibility on the quotas but thi is done for all expansion teams.. the move is contraversial granted but to bring someone in for 2 years at short notice etc.. how easy was that? if crusaders works it could be great for all clubs in RL and may well be worth it.. though understand both sides of hte agument on this one.
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Championship clubs are forced to except a stupid Bonus point System while SL not-Why not unilateral Points System?

you often find things being experimened with at different levels of all games.. i would say that the Bonus Point system is controversial but i woudl debate the word "stupid" as personally i like it and would keep it and i would add i to super League as i think it has made for some great gaes that would have been rubbish at the end without it.
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Sorry but for me the Game is not being well run outside of SL at all. The RFL should be covering all the game not just the bits it wants to do.

i believe it is.. its lookingat the amateur game heavily and how best to get more kids involved with the move to summer.
It has added things to try and make the championship exciting (Bonus point etc)
It has added a syste of franchising that will help to stabilise afew clubs and change the thinking of others from spend everything on the team to spending money on th grounds, juniors etc.. it will hopefully raise the standard off the field of championship clubs etc which will give more chance for the step up to be less painful if and when they bring people up/reintstate P&R
They help expansion club to try and open new areas of talent up tothe country which will hopefully give us a better chance ofbeating the aussies and winning world cups..
They have put in place a system where by they can build clubs from the bottom up
They are trying to help develop the game below super league (there is also a game outside of the lower leagues too) and they are doing this whilst balancing umpteen balls.

IMO he doesnt have an easy job and he is doing it pretty well.. its a huge amount of money though but if he is pretty much the one man think tank then maybe he deserves it.


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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:55 AM

I remember there being a thread about a job advert for a marketing manager at 30-40k per year and people saying that we should be paying good wages to get good people.

In the lower leagues, seriously, how many clubs are worse off or are peed off even? Sure there are fans saying that people are walking away from the game, but this isn;t backed up by facts. Sure Fev and Widnes may now have lower crowds, but they are no longer top division teams. Haven't lower division teams always had low crowds?

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:00 AM

RP- Franchising was brought in to stop clubs going in to trouble moneywise, build for the future and to bring through youngsters more. I see very little evidence of any of that working across the board. We have better stadiums in the Championship than SL. We have Quins and Crusaders have money problems. You could probably add Wakey, Hull KR etc to that. Huddersfield are only around due to Mr Davy. When he dies or leaves then what? A couple of clubs have a very good youth system-but many do not. And ALL clubs would rather spend money on Aussies than investing it on Youth. I do not see much improvement with Clubs both on and off the field in the past 3 years or so. I think SL should have standards and as long as a Championship meets the basic standards they deserve a chance in getting promoted and seeing what they can do.

The Bonus Point is a crazy system where Championship club have it, but the academy and SL not. Its been around for a few years now. For me the game should have one system covering all Leagues. Last year Sheffield finished up in 4th I think but won less games than Featherstone and Widnes. I do not agree with it and most of my friends do not. A number of people I talk to from various Championship clubs are not happy with the Bonus System.

The RFL gave Crusaders a massive advantage over the rest of the Championship clubs. OK have an extra Aussie or two but not the whole team. And they had former Origin players in so never stuck to the Salary Cap all the rest had. The RFL allowed the signing of these players and must have had an idea that some were not on the right Visa. Many Championship fans hate the way Crusaders were given so much help to get in to SL by the RFL.

Internationals are put on at the same time as a WC game featuring England. Now I think that is dumb. I think this decision may have cost the game a few thousand pound. The game needs to make as much money as possible at all levels.

I would like his wage to be based on performance in a number of areas rather than just be given a wage. I was not too impressed how he did things at Halifax. Not all the blame can be put on him, but still he did not do a great job there. I also think he is not the right man to be leading the game in to the future.




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