Extra Time at Wembley!
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Big Col
, Aug 10 2010 08:39 AM
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#1
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:39 AM
Both this weekends Semi's would have gone to golden point extra time if had ended in a draw after 80 mins. All exicting for the fans but surley the players deserve another 10 mins each way until golden point?
I then realised why!!!!!! BBC needed to get to the final scores of the Football League games that day.
Looking at rules of Final, NO extra time or golden point, straight to replay. WHY? Because the BBC demand to get to the final score programme on time!!!!!
The players, fans deserve a winner on cup final day, can you imagine the feeling of no winner come that day? No doubt it would add a few coffers to RFL but would get no where near the coverage of a nail biting extra time golden point game........
I think this is going to be the closest exicting final for years and could be ruined cause of no extra time because of the poncey footballers......
I then realised why!!!!!! BBC needed to get to the final scores of the Football League games that day.
Looking at rules of Final, NO extra time or golden point, straight to replay. WHY? Because the BBC demand to get to the final score programme on time!!!!!
The players, fans deserve a winner on cup final day, can you imagine the feeling of no winner come that day? No doubt it would add a few coffers to RFL but would get no where near the coverage of a nail biting extra time golden point game........
I think this is going to be the closest exicting final for years and could be ruined cause of no extra time because of the poncey footballers......
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#2
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:42 AM
Not sure on this one because any extra time or golden point leads to just a scruffy period of who can kick the first drop goal
I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
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#3
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:51 AM
QUOTE (Big Col @ Aug 10 2010, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking at rules of Final, NO extra time or golden point, straight to replay. WHY? Because the BBC demand to get to the final score programme on time!!!!!
From the operational rules again
SEMI FINALS/FINAL
B4:26 As regards the semi-final, if there is a draw at the end of regular time, the procedure
outlined in Section B4:22 above shall apply. As regards the Final, if there is a draw at the
end of regular time then the Final shall be replayed at a date, time and venue as directed
by the Board of Directors. As regards the Final replay, if there is a draw at the end of
regular time, the procedure outlined in Section B4:22 above shall apply.
I believe this has been the rule long before Final Score was broadcast. eg...from Wikipedia
Halifax and Warrington, the teams that finished first and second respectively on the Championship ladder (separated by only one competition point), reached the Challenge Cup final in 1954. It was played at Wembley and 81,841 spectators saw. what turned out to be a lacklustre match.... The final score was 4 - 4. The re-play was scheduled for 5pm the following Wednesday, 5 May at Odsal Stadium, Bradford.
Edited by JohnM, 10 August 2010 - 08:51 AM.
#4
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:52 AM
QUOTE (amh @ Aug 10 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure on this one because any extra time or golden point leads to just a scruffy period of who can kick the first drop goal
I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
agree entirely!
#5
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:53 AM
It keeps changing then changing back doesn't it? Might just be getting confused with the Grand Final though. Certainly nothing to do with the BBC though - finest bit of paranoia on here for some time.
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#6
Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:59 AM
should do next try wins, could take sometime tho
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#7
Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:01 AM
QUOTE (Amber Avenger @ Aug 10 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It keeps changing then changing back doesn't it? Might just be getting confused with the Grand Final though. Certainly nothing to do with the BBC though - finest bit of paranoia on here for some time.
Ok I stand corrected if that is the case, I still blame them fo culling Birtish Coal Nines from late 80's that they used to show on Wednesdays Sportsnight though.........although I do love Claire Balding!!!!!!!!
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#8
Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:17 AM
QUOTE (amh @ Aug 10 2010, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure on this one because any extra time or golden point leads to just a scruffy period of who can kick the first drop goal
I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
here here.wednesday night elland road.be like the good old days.I think on balance if the teams have drawn at full time they deserve to replay the whole 80 to reach an outcome
#9
Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:55 AM
Been hearing that Bramall Lane’s the likely venue for a cup final replay
There's no dignity in plastic seats
#10
Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:58 AM
I think for the final, as much as golden point would be exciting, deserves a replay. Also, if they did the Wed night in the North you'd get anohter belting crowd!! That in itself would be excitement! Wonder if BBC would show the replay live? Could always have it on BBC2 or BBC3 as worst case scenario!!
I did like the 'Next try the winner' idea by the poster above!!! Would stop scruffy drop-goals but could go on for hours!!
I did like the 'Next try the winner' idea by the poster above!!! Would stop scruffy drop-goals but could go on for hours!!
Edited by Odsal Outlaw, 10 August 2010 - 10:59 AM.
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#11
Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:00 AM
The final has always gone to replay.
If only Sinfield had taken the two ...
If only Sinfield had taken the two ...
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#12
Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:28 AM
QUOTE (Big Col @ Aug 10 2010, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Both this weekends Semi's would have gone to golden point extra time if had ended in a draw after 80 mins. All exicting for the fans but surley the players deserve another 10 mins each way until golden point?
I then realised why!!!!!! BBC needed to get to the final scores of the Football League games that day.
Looking at rules of Final, NO extra time or golden point, straight to replay. WHY? Because the BBC demand to get to the final score programme on time!!!!!
The players, fans deserve a winner on cup final day, can you imagine the feeling of no winner come that day? No doubt it would add a few coffers to RFL but would get no where near the coverage of a nail biting extra time golden point game........
I think this is going to be the closest exicting final for years and could be ruined cause of no extra time because of the poncey footballers......
I then realised why!!!!!! BBC needed to get to the final scores of the Football League games that day.
Looking at rules of Final, NO extra time or golden point, straight to replay. WHY? Because the BBC demand to get to the final score programme on time!!!!!
The players, fans deserve a winner on cup final day, can you imagine the feeling of no winner come that day? No doubt it would add a few coffers to RFL but would get no where near the coverage of a nail biting extra time golden point game........
I think this is going to be the closest exicting final for years and could be ruined cause of no extra time because of the poncey footballers......
if they had golden point in 1954 you wouldnt have had 120,000 at odsal.
#13
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Odsal Outlaw @ Aug 10 2010, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think for the final, as much as golden point would be exciting, deserves a replay. Also, if they did the Wed night in the North you'd get anohter belting crowd!! That in itself would be excitement! Wonder if BBC would show the replay live? Could always have it on BBC2 or BBC3 as worst case scenario!!
What, and have to move Masterchef or whatever else is broadcast on a Wednesday evening at 8pm?
#14
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:04 PM
QUOTE (deluded pom? @ Aug 10 2010, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What, and have to move Masterchef or whatever else is broadcast on a Wednesday evening at 8pm?
Since it's technically still the final maybe the BBC would be obliged to show it. It would certainly be the biggest exposure RL has had over here for years if they moved Eastenders for us!
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CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010
#15
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:07 PM
QUOTE (Amber Avenger @ Aug 10 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since it's technically still the final maybe the BBC would be obliged to show it. It would certainly be the biggest exposure RL has had over here for years if they moved Eastenders for us!
They never showed the replay live in 1982.
#16
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:10 PM
QUOTE (deluded pom? @ Aug 10 2010, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They never showed the replay live in 1982.
TV deals and in particular the "crown jewells" system have evolved since then though.
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Play off mini league winner - 2002. Bronze Medalist - 2003. Big Split Group Winner - 2006. Minor Stupidship - 2005, 2006. Cup Silver Medalist - 2008, 2009
CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010
Play off mini league winner - 2002. Bronze Medalist - 2003. Big Split Group Winner - 2006. Minor Stupidship - 2005, 2006. Cup Silver Medalist - 2008, 2009
CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010
#17
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:14 PM
QUOTE (jackknife @ Aug 10 2010, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
should do next try wins, could take sometime tho 
I'm not a fan of the Golden Point as it currently is.
My suggestion would be that a 'golden try' would count as an immediate win, but kicks would only count on the scoreboard with the match going to the end of extra time.
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#18
Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:14 PM
QUOTE (Amber Avenger @ Aug 10 2010, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TV deals and in particular the "crown jewells" system have evolved since then though.
Time will tell
#19
Posted 10 August 2010 - 01:42 PM
QUOTE (Amber Avenger @ Aug 10 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since it's technically still the final maybe the BBC would be obliged to show it. It would certainly be the biggest exposure RL has had over here for years if they moved Eastenders for us!
Except during the World Cup, EastEnders is not on on a Wednesday.
#20
Posted 10 August 2010 - 02:08 PM
QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Aug 10 2010, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Except during the World Cup, EastEnders is not on on a Wednesday. 
Says more about you than me.
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Play off mini league winner - 2002. Bronze Medalist - 2003. Big Split Group Winner - 2006. Minor Stupidship - 2005, 2006. Cup Silver Medalist - 2008, 2009
CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010
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CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010
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