dadafrank Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 three top clubs, Warrington/Wigan and Saints in tonights ties.. but under 15000 combined at their games.. pathetic... I guess about 30, 000 couldn't be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leagueman123 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 three top clubs, Warrington/Wigan and Saints in tonights ties.. but under 15000 combined at their games.. pathetic... I guess about 30, 000 couldn't be bothered. The three matches combined had an attendance of 9,679. I guess there just isn't that much interest at cup games this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBR Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Been the same for a number of years sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The three matches combined had an attendance of 9,679. I guess there just isn't that much interest at cup games this early. There's not much interest outside of Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyedspud Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 the question is why?? cos "cup games" used to be special...the games i remember most as a kid where challenge cup & lancashire cup games at sheddings.....the biggest attended game i ever went to at sheddings was just under 10,000 against huddersfield in the 1/4s of the challenge cup in 1995...and huddersfield where a 2nd division team then... maybe clubs should stick a extra few quid on the cost of a season ticket which will get season ticket holders in free to home cup games??? maybe they already do?? i dunno?? OLDHAM RLFC the 8TH most successful team in british RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 IMO the Introduction of the SL and full time players in the top flight only (barring a couple of exceptions here and there) has led to a gap becoming a canyon between SL and the rest. This means most inter divisional games are seen as a foregone conclusion and the attendances reflect this. This low impression of the Cup is then compounded by the low turnouts at games involving two SL sides. A vicious circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronicler of Chiswick Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 IMO the Introduction of the SL and full time players in the top flight only (barring a couple of exceptions here and there) has led to a gap becoming a canyon between SL and the rest. This means most inter divisional games are seen as a foregone conclusion and the attendances reflect this. This low impression of the Cup is then compounded by the low turnouts at games involving two SL sides. A vicious circle. And admission prices don't help - in the now distant pass, even though you knew that your team was almost certainly going to lose, you'd go just to see the stars of the game play in the flesh. Now, with even Championship 1 sides charging as much as £16 to even stand on the terraces (Keighley) people just aren't going to bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyedspud Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 so whats the solution? OLDHAM RLFC the 8TH most successful team in british RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 And admission prices don't help. Saints charged £10 everywhere last night and attracted just 3.5k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Saints charged £10 everywhere last night and attracted just 3.5k.that is shockingly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyedspud Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Id scrap it altogether me... Or split it into a challenge cup,shield & bowl comp for super league (cup),championship (shield) & league 1 (bowl) and have a finals day at wembley OLDHAM RLFC the 8TH most successful team in british RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Every sport in the country has smaller crowds for early rounds of the cup, it's not the end of the world. However there does need to be more of a focus on increasing crowds for the quarters onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 that is shockingly bad. But not surprisingly given the drivel on show from Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobbygobbler Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 1/ Home fixture for the lower div team 2/ Competitive scrums 3/ 5m rule 4/ same limit on overseas players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Every sport in the country has smaller crowds for early rounds of the cup This. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Every sport in the country has smaller crowds for early rounds of the cup, it's not the end of the world..aye, even the sports which have clubs who actually make an effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Parksider Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 IMO the Introduction of the SL and full time players in the top flight only (barring a couple of exceptions here and there) has led to a gap becoming a canyon between SL and the rest. This means most inter divisional games are seen as a foregone conclusion and the attendances reflect this. This low impression of the Cup is then compounded by the low turnouts at games involving two SL sides. A vicious circle. Not one of your most amusing ripostes, not that there are many of those, but the analysis above is very well put indeed.....best explanation for the cup attendances I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Not one of your most amusing ripostes, not that there are many of those, but the analysis above is very well put indeed.....best explanation for the cup attendances I've ever seen. Cor! Fanks Parky, I fink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyedspud Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 have a lollipop lol OLDHAM RLFC the 8TH most successful team in british RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Parksider Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cor! Fanks Parky, I fink. It was always Superleague wot did it, just hard to get that into a succinct explanation why. Notwithstanding you reading it on RL fans I agree with it and nowadays believe the audience for RL aren't sheep, aren't/daft and if they don't think the entertainment is good enough they won't come. Even some of your Hull/HKR mates have stopped going to SL games and publicly declared this as some sort of virtue. Which it isn't but people will decide, that's why I think plain "Marketing" of going round telling people how wonderful the game is doesn't work - they decide whether it's worth going. Give those with a mind not to go a half price ticket and that may just swing it, but that costs money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Which it isn't but people will decide, that's why I think plain "Marketing" of going round telling people how wonderful the game is doesn't work - they decide whether it's worth going. Give those with a mind not to go a half price ticket and that may just swing it, but that costs money. Parky, that isnt what Marketing is, you make this claim a lot.If you have worked hard to build up fan loyalty, why wouldnt they want to go to cup games? Btw, im not talking about the inter-division games, they pose their own challenges, but I think clubs losing two-thirds of their crowd for league vs cup is poor under any measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 If people think Saints v York, as an example, will be one way traffic and poor entertainment and won't pay the going rate, I doubt they'd pay half the going rate either. Staying away for whatever reason may not be a virtue but neither is blindly turning up and tolerating anything put in front of you. P.S. I don't go on RL fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 It's not just the Challenge Cup though, is it? The SL play-offs typically get lower crowds than the same 2 clubs playing a regular season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Parksider Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 If people think Saints v York, as an example, will be one way traffic and poor entertainment and won't pay the going rate, I doubt they'd pay half the going rate either. I think it's fair to say plenty of fans are price sensitive, put them up less go put them down more go, not sure why you'd put all fans in the same box here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Parksider Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 It's not just the Challenge Cup though, is it? The SL play-offs typically get lower crowds than the same 2 clubs playing a regular season game. Season ticket value for money, Play off game usually on Telly, save a few quid and still see the game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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