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35 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

On a whim I’ve bought someone English whisky from Norfolk as a present.

There’s no age on it although it is single malt albeit a young one.

Read a few mixed reviews since - anyone tried it?

I have a different view from my learned friends Robin and Bearman, I found it to be a mix of methylated spirits, cat urine and the worst of hard English water.  I was delighted I hadn't spent any money on it myself and had it as a free try. 

I can't see any circumstance where it will age into anything other than a harsh single malt with less than 15 years of ageing.  Most of the secret of good whisky comes from quality of ingredients and if you're starting with a baseline of the abysmally hard water you get in this area then it's garbage in, garbage out.  The problem is that leaving it long enough to make it good enough to drink would probably bankrupt the distillery in storage costs and lost sales.


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4 hours ago, ckn said:

I have a different view from my learned friends Robin and Bearman, I found it to be a mix of methylated spirits, cat urine and the worst of hard English water.  I was delighted I hadn't spent any money on it myself and had it as a free try. 

I can't see any circumstance where it will age into anything other than a harsh single malt with less than 15 years of ageing.  Most of the secret of good whisky comes from quality of ingredients and if you're starting with a baseline of the abysmally hard water you get in this area then it's garbage in, garbage out.  The problem is that leaving it long enough to make it good enough to drink would probably bankrupt the distillery in storage costs and lost sales.

You’re really making me doubt whether I should be giving this to a real whisky connoisseur! ?

Might have to get a substitute whisky and drop the English Whisky as a Christmas present later in the year for someone with less discerning tastes.

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1 hour ago, Robin Evans said:

Glenlivet.... I've declared my liking for this particular dram in the past.... on many occasions.....

Well.... 13.60 in tesco.... 13 pounds smeggin 60!!!!!

For a full-size bottle? :ohmy: 


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2 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Yup. 70cl of speyside for 13 pounds 60 smeggin pence!!!!!!!!

Huuuuuuuge result.

I got 3 bottles......

Got my hopes up now... so I bet none of my local branches have the same deal. :angry: 


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25 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Just tried to post a pic of my reciept but its nothaving it.

I called in this morning.... just 2 bottles left.... reduced to clear .... £13.60. I got another?

Is it the 12yo?  I heard they're withdrawing that from general sale in favour of their unaged stuff.

A sign of the times when quantity outdoes quality as too many people just focus on the £ figure.


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Sadly it isnt the 12yo. However, as a bog standard supermarket single malt this sits right up there in its class and at 13.60 is still bloody good vfm.

Compare with say... Scapa. The once fabulous 12 and 14yo offerings from Orkney is now only a pale shadow of its former self.

Scapa has slipped right down my rankings and is replaced at the top by Clynelish..... but the cheapest im getting is £40+/bottle....

 

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Just now, Robin Evans said:

Sadly it isnt the 12yo. However, as a bog standard supermarket single malt this sits right up there in its class and at 13.60 is still bloody good vfm.

Compare with say... Scapa. The once fabulous 12 and 14yo offerings from Orkney is now only a pale shadow of its former self.

Scapa has slipped right down my rankings and is replaced at the top by Clynelish..... but the cheapest im getting is £40+/bottle....

 

A key example of the problem is Ardbeg.  Used to be a price-peer with Laphroaig for their 10yo, but now it's £48 or so a bottle compared to Laphroaig's non-sale price of around £36.  Laphroaig have their non-aged Select that's rubbish but is a good seller and I think they're using that to subsidise the 10yo price.  I can't remember the last time I had an Ardbeg and that's a shame as it used to be in my top 5 whisky brands.


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I'm not a peated whisky fan so i don't miss Ardbeg. Im more speyside and the salty freshness of the north and east coast and islands.

Im glad most distilleries appear to be resisting the urge to drive a more commercial brand and are sticking to their premium products. Otherwise it all becomes rather homogeneous 

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Is that the Glenlivet Founder's Reserve? It's the no age mark one that they're making their entry level bottle. I got that on a deal in Sainsbury's a couple of months back - so clearly they're happy to see it discounted. Well worth it at the reduced price and really very decent indeed for an 'ageless' bottle.


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And the King of **** ups remains Jura.

Famous Grouse is better than that **** now.


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8 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

And the King of **** ups remains Jura.

Famous Grouse is better than that **** now.

The Famous Grouse smoky blend is actually really quite nice for a mass market blend.

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11 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

And the King of **** ups remains Jura.

Famous Grouse is better than that **** now.

By some margin.

Particularly the snow grouse

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Bought a bottle of this from Aldi yesterday and, imo, its bloody lovely...

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And it's £17.49. :blink:

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Bowmore No.1 was at my local Sainsbury's for £23.

No age given, which seems to be the way the mainstream whisky industry is going these days, but good VFM.


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1 hour ago, Old Frightful said:

Bought a bottle of this from Aldi yesterday and, imo, its bloody lovely...

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And it's £17.49. :blink:

Some serious inroads made into that bottle too.


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7 minutes ago, Bearman said:

Some serious inroads made into that bottle too.

:)

Apologies, had to pinch that image off t'internet as my phone wouldn't upload the piccie  for some reason.


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16 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

:)

Apologies, had to pinch that image off t'internet as my phone wouldn't upload the piccie  for some reason.

Shall we pretend to believe him? :wink: 

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36 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Shall we pretend to believe him? :wink: 

Hic....hic....:blush:

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On 4/29/2018 at 6:36 PM, Bearman said:

Some serious inroads made into that bottle too.

Ive been drinking bourbon of late as that was what my cheapskate family bought me for father's day. I happened to be in Aldi today and was going to buy myself a bottle of their bourbon when I spotted their Islay. 

What the heck have I been doing? The Islay is far superior.

 


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2 minutes ago, Bearman said:

Ive been drinking bourbon of late as that was what my cheapskate family bought me for father's day. I happened to be in Aldi today and was going to buy myself a bottle of their bourbon when I spotted their Islay. 

What the heck have I been doing? The Islay is far superior.

 

My family bought be a bottle of Jack Daniels a couple of years ago for Christmas thinking that whisky is whisky.  Heathens, the lot of them.

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Highland Park was on offer the last time I went to Sainsbury's should anyone be interested.

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