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Lancashire

  1. FB Kris Radlinski
  2. WG Joe Lydon
  3. CE Eric Ashton
  4. CE Alan Buckley 
  5. WG Alf Ellaby
  6. SO Kevin Sinfield
  7. SH Alex Murphy
  8. PR Ken Gee
  9. HK Kieran Cunningham
  10. PR Adrian Morley
  11. SR Chris Joynt
  12. SR Denis Betts
  13. LF Paul Sculthorpe 
  14. SR Phil Clarke
  15. SH Andy Gregory
  16. LF Vince Karalius
  17. SO Shaun Edwards
  18. PR James Graham
  19. SR Brian McTigue
  20. HK Joe Egan
  21. SR Ray French 

Feels like there must be better Lancastrian options on the wings, but I was struggling to find them!

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Been indecisive I made two teams...must admit wanted to break rules and have a large sub bench as too many players I like :) 

Team 1

1 Bev Risman
2 Eric  Harris
3 Garry Schofield
4 Lewis Jones
5 John  Atkinson
6 John Holmes
7  Rob Burrow
8 Jamie Peacock
9 Matt  Diskin
10 Steve Pitchford
11  Adrian  Morley
12  Arthur  Clues
13  Ellery  Hanley


Mick Shoebottom
Fred Webster
Ali  Lauitiiti
Kylie Leuluai

 

Team 2


1  John Holmes
2  Ryan  Hall
3  Garry Schofield
4  Keith  Senior
5 John Atkinson
6 Danny McGuire
7 Mick Shoebottom
8 Barrie McDermott
9  David Ward
10 Jamie Peacock
11  Adrian Morley
12 Gareth Ellis
13  Kevin Sinfield

Rob Burrow
Ellery Hanley
Ali  Lauitiiti
Kylie Leuluai

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17 hours ago, Allora said:

Pretty good call in my opinion.

Always a tough call when including players from 50-70 years or more ago as many of those players would not rate as high in the modern game with size, physicality and stamina.

Brisbane had a top team with many Test players as they were in a privileged position in the game in Australia back in those days, it was part of the reason that led to the Super League Wars.

 

 

 

I think it's important to highlight the nitwitery of the above statement in the context of this topic.

He states "size" to undermine past greats of the game, This same thinking almost could have denied Johnathan Thurston a chance to ever play NRL given he was knocked back by clubs for being to small!. Some body better go back in time and tell Allen Langer & Toovey to take up marbles because Allora says there to small to cut the mustard. 

It's also laughable to suggest the like of Hayne would even get a mention was he of the same era as RL immortals Clive Churchill of Graham Langlands who played god forbid 50-70 years ago!  good old allora would have us believe they wouldn't cut it up against the drones running about today (he's either trolling or clueless).

Allora as I'm sure you have plenty of spare time on your hands I suggest you do some research on champions like Ron Coote, Bobby Mccarthy , Reg Gasnier & Jonny Raper and think about what they would be had they been able to be full time professionals, Then think what that premadonna Jarryd hayne would have accomplished in there era, My bet is he wouldn't have even made reserve grade.

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5 hours ago, RabbitRhinoovOZ said:

I think it's important to highlight the nitwitery of the above statement in the context of this topic.

He states "size" to undermine past greats of the game, This same thinking almost could have denied Johnathan Thurston a chance to ever play NRL given he was knocked back by clubs for being to small!. Some body better go back in time and tell Allen Langer & Toovey to take up marbles because Allora says there to small to cut the mustard. 

It's also laughable to suggest the like of Hayne would even get a mention was he of the same era as RL immortals Clive Churchill of Graham Langlands who played god forbid 50-70 years ago!  good old allora would have us believe they wouldn't cut it up against the drones running about today (he's either trolling or clueless).

Allora as I'm sure you have plenty of spare time on your hands I suggest you do some research on champions like Ron Coote, Bobby Mccarthy , Reg Gasnier & Jonny Raper and think about what they would be had they been able to be full time professionals, Then think what that premadonna Jarryd hayne would have accomplished in there era, My bet is he wouldn't have even made reserve grade.

How can you so passionately defend the great players of past and argue they would be just as good today (which I agree with by the way) and then go on to say that the modern greats wouldn't cut it in the past. Surely the argument works in both directions?

My view is the great players would be greats in any era.

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On 20/07/2017 at 4:33 PM, Bartholemew Smythe said:

The Maestro at FB?

On the 1979 GB AUS tour, Woody played Full Back and I seem to recall he got the accolade has the best performing tourist in that leg of the tour from the Australian press,  (corrections welcome) at the time I always thought he would have made one of the best Full Backs to have graced our game.


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On 19/07/2017 at 8:29 PM, johnh1 said:

I remember seeing

 

Ken Gowers

John Speed

Bobby Fleet

Bob Fleay

Les Holliday

Alan Buckley

 

struggling to name the others!

 

Billy 'Daz' Davis. Great Stand Off.


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32 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

How can you so passionately defend the great players of past and argue they would be just as good today (which I agree with by the way) and then go on to say that the modern greats wouldn't cut it in the past. Surely the argument works in both directions?

My view is the great players would be greats in any era.

Hi Dunbar,

Because those guys back in the 50's through to 80's where real footballers with built in toughness about them as apposed to being athletes like todays players (I exclude the likes of cam smith, slater, cronk and james graham from this as they would go well in any era). Past greats like Mccarthy, Coote, Gasner etc would easily adapt and the thrive in todays game where as a guy like Hayne couldn't be taught to be tough it's either in you or it isn't and a honest plodder like Hindy couldn't all of a sudden become a skilful ball playing forward and nor could he mix it up front against Lurch O'neil, Led Davidson, Malcolm Reilly etc he'd have been exposed badly.

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8 minutes ago, RabbitRhinoovOZ said:

Hi Dunbar,

Because those guys back in the 50's through to 80's where real footballers with built in toughness about them as apposed to being athletes like todays players (I exclude the likes of cam smith, slater, cronk and james graham from this as they would go well in any era). Past greats like Mccarthy, Coote, Gasner etc would easily adapt and the thrive in todays game where as a guy like Hayne couldn't be taught to be tough it's either in you or it isn't and a honest plodder like Hindy couldn't all of a sudden become a skilful ball playing forward and nor could he mix it up front against Lurch O'neil, Led Davidson, Malcolm Reilly etc he'd have been exposed badly.

With respect, I think you are mixing the way that the game is played in different eras with a players ability to adapt and cope.

Just as the past greats would adapt to playing in the modern era with the 21st century focus on conditioning, diet etc so woild the modern players adapt to an era where the game was tougher (although tougher is a difficult one anyway as the modern game is physically harder than ever before... Just not as violent).

We don't know who would thrive in different styles as we have simply not seen them play a game in that way. So I fall back to my previous statement that a great rugby league player woild be great in any era.

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7 hours ago, TheSnowmonkey said:

Been indecisive I made two teams...must admit wanted to break rules and have a large sub bench as too many players I like :) 

Team 1

1 Bev Risman
2 Eric  Harris
3 Garry Schofield
4 Lewis Jones
5 John  Atkinson
6 John Holmes
7  Rob Burrow
8 Jamie Peacock
9 Matt  Diskin
10 Steve Pitchford
11  Adrian  Morley
12  Arthur  Clues
13  Ellery  Hanley


Mick Shoebottom
Fred Webster
Ali  Lauitiiti
Kylie Leuluai

 

Team 2


1  John Holmes
2  Ryan  Hall
3  Garry Schofield
4  Keith  Senior
5 John Atkinson
6 Danny McGuire
7 Mick Shoebottom
8 Barrie McDermott
9  David Ward
10 Jamie Peacock
11  Adrian Morley
12 Gareth Ellis
13  Kevin Sinfield

Rob Burrow
Ellery Hanley
Ali  Lauitiiti
Kylie Leuluai

Ellery on the bench- Wow!

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Cumbria/Cumberland all time all era

 

  1. FB John McKeown
  2. WG Jimmy Lewthwaite
  3. CE Dennis Goodwin
  4. CE Syd Lowdon
  5. WG Ade Gardner
  6. SO Willie Horne 
  7. SH Arnold 'Boxer' Walker
  8. PR Vince Fox
  9. HK Vivian McKeating
  10. PR Douglas Clark
  11. SR Dick Huddart
  12. SR Bill Holliday
  13. LF Billy Ivison
  14. PR Reg Parker
  15. SR Eddie Bowman
  16. LF Rob Purdham
  17. FB Gary Broadbent

Put this together looking at all the legends and golden eras for Workington, Barrow and Whitehaven - please let me know what you think.

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On 19/07/2017 at 2:34 AM, Lounge Room Lizard said:

Going off who I have seen play mainly live though some of the Storm early players via TV and You Tube. But have Been to Melbourne, Sydney, Townsville, Halifax, Leeds to watch a few storm games. Storm have only used something like 190 players since 1999 but thats still a very good team. Fax is from the early 80s to the present day. Some players chosen its more Personal favourites rather than the best for me.

MELBOURNE STORM

1. Billy Slater 

2. Marika Korobete

3. Greg Inglis

4. Israel Folau

5. Suliasi Vunivalu

6. Scott Hill

7. Cooper Cronk

8. Jesse Bromwich 

9. Cam Smith

10. Robbie Kearns

11. Stephen Kearney

12. Ryan Hoffman

13. Tawera Nikau

------------------------------------

14. Michael Crocker

15. Brett Kimmorley 

16. Glenn Lazarus

17. Marcus Bai

FAX 

1. Joe Kilroy

2. Mark Preston

3. Greg Austin

4. John Schuster

5. John Bentley

6. Chris Anderson

7. Gavin Clinch

8. Martin Bella

9. Seamus Mccallion

10. Geoff Robinson

11. Neil James

12. Brian Juliff

13. John Pendlebury

-------------------------------------------------

14. Les Holliday

15. Tony Anderson

16. Graham Eadie

17. Keith Nellar

Bloody hell Clinch!!! How did I forget him? 


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2 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Cumbria/Cumberland all time all era

 

  1. FB John McKeown
  2. WG Jimmy Lewthwaite
  3. CE Dennis Goodwin
  4. CE Syd Lowdon
  5. WG Ade Gardner
  6. SO Willie Horne 
  7. SH Arnold 'Boxer' Walker
  8. PR Vince Fox
  9. HK Vivian McKeating
  10. PR Douglas Clark
  11. SR Dick Huddart
  12. SR Bill Holliday
  13. LF Billy Ivison
  14. PR Reg Parker
  15. SR Eddie Bowman
  16. LF Rob Purdham
  17. FB Gary Broadbent

Put this together looking at all the legends and golden eras for Workington, Barrow and Whitehaven - please let me know what you think.

No place for Ian Thompson?

what do you say Yanto? 

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Here's a quiz - which team is this 'best of' from? ;) 

Gavin Thompson
John Carlaw
Craig Wise
Brad Godden
Kevin Iro
Brett Kimmorley
Noel Goldthorpe
Justin Dooley
Robbie McCormack
Troy Stone
Willie Poching
Tony Iro
Tyran Smith

Richard Swain
Robbie Ross
Anthony Brann
Paul Marquet

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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3 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Cumbria/Cumberland all time all era

 

  1. FB John McKeown
  2. WG Jimmy Lewthwaite
  3. CE Dennis Goodwin
  4. CE Syd Lowdon
  5. WG Ade Gardner
  6. SO Willie Horne 
  7. SH Arnold 'Boxer' Walker
  8. PR Vince Fox
  9. HK Vivian McKeating
  10. PR Douglas Clark
  11. SR Dick Huddart
  12. SR Bill Holliday
  13. LF Billy Ivison
  14. PR Reg Parker
  15. SR Eddie Bowman
  16. LF Rob Purdham
  17. FB Gary Broadbent

Put this together looking at all the legends and golden eras for Workington, Barrow and Whitehaven - please let me know what you think.

Ike for definite !!!!  And Paul Charlton ,to begin from the back three ... Les Gorley , Brian Edgar at the other end

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BLACKPOOL BOROUGH

1.  Doug Robinson

2. Martin Sivori

3. John Heritage

4. Phil Pitman

5. John Stockley

6.  Alan Fairhurst

7. Bak Diabira

8. Jimmy Hamilton

9. Don Parry

10. Hugh Waddell

11. Jim Molyneux

12. Paul Gamble

13. Carl Briscoe

SUBS

Howard Allen

Ian van Bellen

Mike Smith

Dave Macko

 

Sob!  Sob!

 

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2 hours ago, Futtocks said:

Here's a quiz - which team is this 'best of' from? ;) 

Gavin Thompson
John Carlaw
Craig Wise
Brad Godden
Kevin Iro
Brett Kimmorley
Noel Goldthorpe
Justin Dooley
Robbie McCormack
Troy Stone
Willie Poching
Tony Iro
Tyran Smith

Richard Swain
Robbie Ross
Anthony Brann
Paul Marquet

Hunter Mariners?

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5 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Cumbria/Cumberland all time all era

 

  1. FB John McKeown
  2. WG Jimmy Lewthwaite
  3. CE Dennis Goodwin
  4. CE Syd Lowdon
  5. WG Ade Gardner
  6. SO Willie Horne 
  7. SH Arnold 'Boxer' Walker
  8. PR Vince Fox
  9. HK Vivian McKeating
  10. PR Douglas Clark
  11. SR Dick Huddart
  12. SR Bill Holliday
  13. LF Billy Ivison
  14. PR Reg Parker
  15. SR Eddie Bowman
  16. LF Rob Purdham
  17. FB Gary Broadbent

Put this together looking at all the legends and golden eras for Workington, Barrow and Whitehaven - please let me know what you think.

That pack is terrifying.

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13 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Lancashire

  1. FB Kris Radlinski
  2. WG Joe Lydon
  3. CE Eric Ashton
  4. CE Alan Buckley 
  5. WG Alf Ellaby
  6. SO Kevin Sinfield
  7. SH Alex Murphy
  8. PR Ken Gee
  9. HK Kieran Cunningham
  10. PR Adrian Morley
  11. SR Chris Joynt
  12. SR Denis Betts
  13. LF Paul Sculthorpe 
  14. SR Phil Clarke
  15. SH Andy Gregory
  16. LF Vince Karalius
  17. SO Shaun Edwards
  18. PR James Graham
  19. SR Brian McTigue
  20. HK Joe Egan
  21. SR Ray French 

Feels like there must be better Lancastrian options on the wings, but I was struggling to find them!

I'd have McTigue over Morley, and Morley on the bench over Gregory.

Could nick Brian Bevan on "residency". He's as Lancastrian than Adrian Lam is a Queenslander.

Probably Egan for Cunningham too.

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Missed Joe Egan
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1 hour ago, Tom Moore said:

Hunter Mariners?

That's the one! Not a bad team, either. I know I'm not the only Wigan fan with fond memories of Robbie McCormack's brief tenure at the club, not to mention the Iro brothers.

A much easier selection, since they only had about 20 players during their existence. Maybe, if I can find a list, I'll do a Kent Invicta all-stars team next! :D 


"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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6 minutes ago, DavidM said:

That was just established to get SL muscling in on Newcastle wasn't it 

Yep, Newcastle Knights allied themselves to the ARL, so the Mariners were formed. They got to the final of the WCC, which isn't bad for a team that never won an away game in the club season. They lost to the Brisbane Broncos in that WCC decider. No shame there, when you consider the Broncos' squad during the SL era.

They were killed off, along with the Western Reds and the South Queensland Crushers, in 1997, as part of the re-amalgamation of the ARL and SL.


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That Broncos squad of that period was up there with the best there's been

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2 minutes ago, DavidM said:

That Broncos squad of that period was up there with the best there's been

The only match I got to see in the Australian SL version of the WCC was Brisbane v St Helens. Quite a slaughter!

Okay, Saints were off form and under strength, but the clinical demolition was still impressive. A rookie called Lockyer played a few minutes in that match.


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