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The season is almost upon us . We have 1 fit Half back. We have lost 3 centres and signed none. Dale Morton is a winger not a centre. Tomlinson is a forward. We have no cover in our back division at all. In the boxing day game our starting pack looked more than capable the players recruited in the forwards will get better. What I am getting at is why has our recruitment in the backs been ordinary. I do not know the coaches plans but if we start the season with the current squad we are asking for trouble. This division is a strong one we desperately need to improve on our previous season.  We have never been out of the championship and for a club our size that is a record to be proud of. Lets keep it that way.

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All good points. The way we signed folk pre season at a million miles an hour wasn't exciting it was worrying.

I'm not sure on the keenan fascination he's an average forward squad player at best. The second row area and 6/7 look very fragile

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'Shaw cross juniors, Birkenshaw, Mirfield, Heckmondwike Panthers, Stainland Stags and then the Heavy woolen donkeys... WARDY, STOZZA, GT, KARL OR KEAR MUST OF DROPPED A DIGIT FROM MY MOBILE NUMBER! :clapping:

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17 minutes ago, 9' oller said:

All good points. The way we signed folk pre season at a million miles an hour wasn't exciting it was worrying.

I'm not sure on the keenan fascination he's an average forward squad player at best. The second row area and 6/7 look very fragile

Nothing wrong with being an average squad player. I suspect we haven't got enough of those. I agree with you though. He is surely a second rower, and unsure where this notion that he is a centre comes from. 

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It's that interchangeable idea that only those teams with their backs to the wall utilise.

Wing playing fullback. Second row playing centre. Ok it's only one move to the left or right but their jobs are very different in attack or defence

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'Shaw cross juniors, Birkenshaw, Mirfield, Heckmondwike Panthers, Stainland Stags and then the Heavy woolen donkeys... WARDY, STOZZA, GT, KARL OR KEAR MUST OF DROPPED A DIGIT FROM MY MOBILE NUMBER! :clapping:

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Walshaw spent half of his time with us playing in the centre so don't be surprised if your club repeats this tactic.


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5 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Walshaw spent half of his time with us playing in the centre so don't be surprised if your club repeats this tactic.

I noticed that BSJ did not score many tries in that position though. Am hoping we do not have to use him there.

 

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1 hour ago, Graham Greaves said:

I noticed that BSJ did not score many tries in that position though. Am hoping we do not have to use him there.

 

Oh I'm not advocating it Graham - he is definitely a second row and not a centre, as his wingman would find out. Coaches have some funny ideas at times though.


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The starting pack v Rams was workmanlike but neither prop is the busting type that I have being going on about, but is that a defensive, tackling plus? We don't want to be getting into the 'so and so can cover' thing either, horses for courses, 2nd row and centre are completely different mindsets, specialist over trier anytime. Tomlinson has had a rough ride here, never been sure where he fits in, been thrown in the wing, no no, had too many 2nd rowers for him to stake a claim there,  plays centre for Jamaica, solid, good tackler but not got the pace to get away and feed a winger, but deserves a place somewhere. Wingers, 2 great fans' favourites but favourites aren't bound to be the best, we at least need a fit Walker back with his pace.  Halves are a problem now that we only have one!! We have to get into the loan or DR game for a 2nd/3rd choice SL man. Agree that recruitment wasn't red hot but for our position probably expectedly adequate, don't think any of our near-competitors have done any better. What I am hoping for is a great improvement in Bulldog spirit and commitment. Sure there's another 'name' signing in the pipeline somewhere....

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Let's hope it is or linners has more than a mountain to climb


'Shaw cross juniors, Birkenshaw, Mirfield, Heckmondwike Panthers, Stainland Stags and then the Heavy woolen donkeys... WARDY, STOZZA, GT, KARL OR KEAR MUST OF DROPPED A DIGIT FROM MY MOBILE NUMBER! :clapping:

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6 hours ago, Graham Greaves said:

Hope not.

 

If you had a direct choice of either playing the season out with the players we have and almost certainly taking part in the battle for relegation, or DRing with Hull and likely to have access to a few decent players most weeks and possibly avoiding the battle for the drop, which would you choose?

 

 

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2 hours ago, DOGFATHER said:

If you had a direct choice of either playing the season out with the players we have and almost certainly taking part in the battle for relegation, or DRing with Hull and likely to have access to a few decent players most weeks and possibly avoiding the battle for the drop, which would you choose?

 

 

Neither are definite options. 

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6 hours ago, distantdog said:

Neither are definite options. 

I realise that, it was intended hypothetically. We could have access to half the Hull first team squad and still be battling relegation. We might not even have the option of pairing up with Hull, I imagine there will be quite a few other teams looking to work with them. 

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Mid table is the aim but even this nowadays is a real effort!

Mr lunt will certainly make a difference. A new coach ego'less, one of our own with something to prove after keighley fiasco.

How many good games did yates, tomlinson, bravo and walker give us last year. Probably 5 collectively


'Shaw cross juniors, Birkenshaw, Mirfield, Heckmondwike Panthers, Stainland Stags and then the Heavy woolen donkeys... WARDY, STOZZA, GT, KARL OR KEAR MUST OF DROPPED A DIGIT FROM MY MOBILE NUMBER! :clapping:

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According to LE Hull are talking with both Batley and Bradford. It also seems that Leeds are loaning Bradford  few players to "help them out". Looks like a last-minute mad scramble for players may ensue. You do, however, have a couple of triallists turning out for you this coming weekend.


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23 hours ago, 9' oller said:

Let's hope it is or linners has more than a mountain to climb

Wonder if BISSA can get him some mountain climbing boots 🧗‍♀️


 

 

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14 hours ago, DOGFATHER said:

If you had a direct choice of either playing the season out with the players we have and almost certainly taking part in the battle for relegation, or DRing with Hull and likely to have access to a few decent players most weeks and possibly avoiding the battle for the drop, which would you choose?

 

 

I cannot have double standards  Dogfather  I do not like D/R never have and never will. I want success but with our own players.

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25 minutes ago, Graham Greaves said:

I cannot have double standards  Dogfather  I do not like D/R never have and never will. I want success but with our own players.

It's very admirable, I'm not a fan of it either and probably like most CH fans, I would prefer it was not used at all, but I just cannot see any way of competing with teams that use it, if we take the moral high ground.

I'm still not convinced, which is the lesser of two evils. Take the moral high ground and likely face oblivion and likely battle against relegation, or succumb like the other teams around us, and maybe falsely improve our league position by using players from another club?

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1 hour ago, DOGFATHER said:

It's very admirable, I'm not a fan of it either and probably like most CH fans, I would prefer it was not used at all, but I just cannot see any way of competing with teams that use it, if we take the moral high ground.

I'm still not convinced, which is the lesser of two evils. Take the moral high ground and likely face oblivion and likely battle against relegation, or succumb like the other teams around us, and maybe falsely improve our league position by using players from another club?

TBH there is no 'moral high ground' any more in Championship RL. Unless a Club has big money backing and Directors who are prepared to take risk for reward, DR is a necessary survival option, based on a Club's skill in negotiating, implementing, and developing the right DR contract.

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21 hours ago, 9' oller said:

Mid table is the aim but even this nowadays is a real effort!

Mr lunt will certainly make a difference. A new coach ego'less, one of our own with something to prove after keighley fiasco.

How many good games did yates, tomlinson, bravo and walker give us last year. Probably 5 collectively

I don't think Keenan has ever let us down

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13 hours ago, Bulldog Days said:

TBH there is no 'moral high ground' any more in Championship RL. Unless a Club has big money backing and Directors who are prepared to take risk for reward, DR is a necessary survival option, based on a Club's skill in negotiating, implementing, and developing the right DR contract.

You may be correct, although I've a feeling Barrow took the moral high ground last season by not using DR and suffered the consequences. However, I could be wrong. 

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Last I heard of Hallett he was at Keighley I believe, didn't he fall out with the dressing room and coach at the time.

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