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45 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Can someone please explain to me why people are stockpiling toilet paper, I really do not understand it. From what I've seen none of the symptoms of coronavirus are diarrhea and if it's cos they're gonna be self isolating how long are they expecting to be stuck in their house? That pic above, they look like the 24pcks and she must have up to 10, how much pooing does this person/family do?

Clearly there are a lot of a$@eholes in her family.

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3 hours ago, SSoutherner said:

I can beat that

Played Onion on Saturday, hand sanitizer on the bar in clubhouse and all round the toilets but we all shared the same 8 water bottles on the pitch

And spent 80 minutes passing a ball between themselves 

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19 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

And spent 80 minutes passing a ball between themselves 

no we only managed about 5 passes each time before someone knocked it on and we had a scrum where we shared moist breath for a bit. If you think any level i play at could manage to pass the ball for 80 mins you are mistaken, 80s maybe

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At the moment 111 don't want to hear from you unless you have been to specific countries, have a known contact with a positive carrier or you are dying.  

I understand they will be overwhelmed, but this means there might be underreporting.  

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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16 hours ago, YCKonstantine said:

Tesco are rationing anti bac gel, anti bac wipes, anti bac spray, bleach, hand wash, dried pasta, long life milk, tinned veg, kids medicine and water. 5 per customer.

Must be a regional thing, our big Tesco are limiting you to three packets of pasta, and 3 anti bac hand lotions. Everything else ok, even toilet rolls.  One of their staff said they have plenty of stock, and more being delivered, " It's being caused by idiots who are panicking", (her words) .

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21 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

At the moment 111 don't want to hear from you unless you have been to specific countries, have a known contact with a positive carrier or you are dying.  

I understand they will be overwhelmed, but this means there might be underreporting.  

And there's no specific number for clinicians to call to ask about symptoms in themselves either. They have the same criteria as normal patients despite seeing a day full of sick people every day.


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53 minutes ago, Jasper said:

Must be a regional thing, our big Tesco are limiting you to three packets of pasta, and 3 anti bac hand lotions. Everything else ok, even toilet rolls.  One of their staff said they have plenty of stock, and more being delivered, " It's being caused by idiots who are panicking", (her words) .

Fair enough, those are the lines in the store I work in. 

The shelves aren't bare, but it's noticeable.

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It's a frightening thought but the UK's Chief Medical Office, Dr Chris Whitty has definite resemblance of Chris Grayling, let's hope it's only in look's ?

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There may be a minor issue with the plan to recruit former medical and nursing staff to bolster the NHS if needed. They don't want to return! 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis


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42 minutes ago, gazza77 said:

There may be a minor issue with the plan to recruit former medical and nursing staff to bolster the NHS if needed. They don't want to return! 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis

Some do.  I've seen and read interviews with former health professionals who have said they would definitely return as they would want to help.  Don't believe everything that you read in the Guardian.  That paper has its particular axe to grind.  I'm quite sure that if Labour was in power, the Guardian would be reporting on how loads of health professionals are keen to help out!

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5 hours ago, YCKonstantine said:

Fair enough, those are the lines in the store I work in. 

The shelves aren't bare, but it's noticeable.

Reports today suggest that following a couple of conference calls with supermarket CEOs over the last week or so the government is due to relax rules around night time lorry transports so that supermarkets can restock overnight with the essentials.  There are also plans for increasing click and collect services to help people who are self-isolating.

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1 minute ago, Saintslass said:

Some do.  I've seen and read interviews with former health professionals who have said they would definitely return as they would want to help.  Don't believe everything that you read in the Guardian.  That paper has its particular axe to grind.  I'm quite sure that if Labour was in power, the Guardian would be reporting on how loads of health professionals are keen to help out!

I agree, far better to stick to the Mail, Express &  Torygraph for a balanced view?

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6 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

At the moment 111 don't want to hear from you unless you have been to specific countries, have a known contact with a positive carrier or you are dying.  

I understand they will be overwhelmed, but this means there might be underreporting.  

I'm fairly sure there will be under-reporting, not least because (a) some people get no symptoms and so wouldn't realise they needed to call 111 in the first place, and (b) some people get symptoms akin to a cold or mild flu and so likewise probably wouldn't think of calling 111.  Likewise I'm sure it is difficult for people on the end of a phone to confirm whether someone has Covid 19 or a cold/the flu when some of the symptoms are so similar.  Given that the government foresee a time soon when anyone with any respiratory infection or fever of any kind will be asked to self-isolate then that will clear things up!  Just now though there aren't enough cases to make that approach viable.

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6 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Some do.  I've seen and read interviews with former health professionals who have said they would definitely return as they would want to help.  Don't believe everything that you read in the Guardian.  That paper has its particular axe to grind.  I'm quite sure that if Labour was in power, the Guardian would be reporting on how loads of health professionals are keen to help out!

I'm sure some would. I'm not stupid enough to believe their won't be a mix of opinions amongst ex-NHS employees. I've yet to see any statement from a government official however that reflects the reality that they need to pursuade and ask nicely, rather than just make statements that just appear to glibly assume it's a magic solution to solving the staffing shortfall. 


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8 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Reports today suggest that following a couple of conference calls with supermarket CEOs over the last week or so the government is due to relax rules around night time lorry transports so that supermarkets can restock overnight with the essentials.  There are also plans for increasing click and collect services to help people who are self-isolating.

My shop opens 6am-10pm so get me on them nights filling with no customers  lovely.

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1 hour ago, gazza77 said:

There may be a minor issue with the plan to recruit former medical and nursing staff to bolster the NHS if needed. They don't want to return! 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis

I’m sure quite a few current staff of retirement age will also choose retirement rather than work through a potentially dangerous pandemic.

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35 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Given that the government foresee a time soon when anyone with any respiratory infection or fever of any kind will be asked to self-isolate then that will clear things up!  Just now though there aren't enough cases to make that approach viable.

If the government foresees a time when that will be necessary they should do it now rather than delay.

Rather than come out with the absolute bull**** deflection they did about Italy taking populist action.

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24 minutes ago, Copa said:

I’m sure quite a few current staff of retirement age will also choose retirement rather than work through a potentially dangerous pandemic.

There are issues with insurance and lapsed qualifications too.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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6 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

There are issues with insurance and lapsed qualifications too.  

I’m sure some emergency legislation could tidy that up.

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This is the bit that confuses me today -

In next 10-14 days everyone with minor infection/fever will be asked must self isolate for wk

Why wait till then?  My HR have said I'm ok to come into work, my line manager has suggested I take a couple of days off.  I'm taking a couple off.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Italy putting some very restrictive measures down.  Unprecedented?


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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1 hour ago, gazza77 said:

I'm sure some would. I'm not stupid enough to believe their won't be a mix of opinions amongst ex-NHS employees. I've yet to see any statement from a government official however that reflects the reality that they need to pursuade and ask nicely, rather than just make statements that just appear to glibly assume it's a magic solution to solving the staffing shortfall. 

The experience so far is that once you get over 60, the chance of death rapidly increases with this. Why would any retired clinician put themselves at risk with out of date skills, new equipment and process?

Some will, but it’s a huge risk. 

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12 minutes ago, ckn said:

The experience so far is that once you get over 60, the chance of death rapidly increases with this. Why would any retired clinician put themselves at risk with out of date skills, new equipment and process?

Some will, but it’s a huge risk. 

Last I heard, it was unclear whether that was age (i.e. weakened immune system) or the greater likelihood of other conditions. Of course, while it is not know, it is still a danger.


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