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[gingerjon]

7 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

If someone calls a Canadian a 'Canuck' is that racist?

Yes. This is very relevant.

Thank you for contributing today.

[Exiled Wiganer]

54 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

Really? I feel like he would be checking out that guided busway in no time.

It would be good to have Mansfield Marksmen back.

[fighting irish]

2 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

If someone calls a Canadian a 'Canuck' is that racist?

The whole point K'man, is it's up to you (the poor victim) to decide.

If you are upset by it, the ''perpetrator'' has made a racist remark.

Much like Sharia law.

 

[gingerjon]

1 minute ago, fighting irish said:

Much like Sharia law.

[fighting irish]

5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Do you want me to understand what you mean by this, or do you just want to leave me guessing? 

 

[Robin Evans]

I can feel john reaching for his keys again.....

[Davo5]

3 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

I can feel john reaching for his keys again.....

I’m sure Tommy has another thread already prepared.

[Tommygilf]

2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

I’m sure Tommy has another thread already prepared.

Why?

[RP London]

Wow.... i really didnt think this thread could take a more bizarre turn than it has in other parts but hats off!

 

[fighting irish]

11 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

I can feel john reaching for his keys again.....

Don't worry Robin I'm not offended by Ginger John's vague and feeble attempts to insult me. So poor beleaguered John can rest easy.

Unsurprisingly, the tactics of sniggering and whispering or the use of innuendo in order to hint at, or imply your prejudices, rather than state them explicitly, is a strategy which is co-incidentally, often employed by modern-day racists.

[Oxford]

26 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

I can feel john reaching for his keys again.....

Yeah we can't have a discussion breaking out on a forum Robin, that would be the thin end of the wedge.

The point about canuck is helpful because everything has to with the origin of the language, the reasons for its usage, what the term is used for and who uses it and why.

Or you could be British and claim it's all in good humour, can't you take a joke and anyway we're a model for the rest of the world cos a government report said so!

 

[RP London]

57 minutes ago, Oxford said:

Yeah we can't have a discussion breaking out on a forum Robin, that would be the thin end of the wedge.

The point about canuck is helpful because everything has to with the origin of the language, the reasons for its usage, what the term is used for and who uses it and why.

Or you could be British and claim it's all in good humour, can't you take a joke and anyway we're a model for the rest of the world cos a government report said so!

 

add to that list:

whether it is used as an adjective to a further insult.. that is where a lot of confusion starts to come IMHO.. terms, in and of themselves, are not necessarily insulting but when used to emphasise a further insult that is when you know why they are being used and that is the part that is intent IMO (not just mine but courts i believe too)

[Just Browny]

2 hours ago, fighting irish said:

The whole point K'man, is it's up to you (the poor victim) to decide.

If you are upset by it, the ''perpetrator'' has made a racist remark.

Much like Sharia law.

 

Whereas, of course, the right person to decide is a white man on an internet forum.

[Oxford]

19 minutes ago, RP London said:

terms, in and of themselves, are not necessarily insulting

I'm afraid they are just that, always intended to be just that and unlikely to ever move on from being insulting, insinuating and chock full of implications and meanings beyond the word itself.

[RP London]

5 minutes ago, Oxford said:

I'm afraid they are just that, always intended to be just that and unlikely to ever move on from being insulting, insinuating and chock full of implications and meanings beyond the word itself.

i'm thinking more just using the term "Welsh", for example, in normal conversation is not insulting, it is descriptive of where a person comes from, but when used as an adjective to a larger and wider insult then it becomes the edge that tips it into offensive and, broader sweep, racist.

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, RP London said:

i'm thinking more just using the term "Welsh", for example, in normal conversation is not insulting, it is descriptive of where a person comes from, but when used as an adjective to a larger and wider insult then it becomes the edge that tips it into offensive and, broader sweep, racist.

Exactly, yet that is used by some people with malign intent to say they are confused by what is racist to say and what isn't. 

[gingerjon]

Just now, RP London said:

i'm thinking more just using the term "Welsh", for example, in normal conversation is not insulting, it is descriptive of where a person comes from, but when used as an adjective to a larger and wider insult then it becomes the edge that tips it into offensive and, broader sweep, racist.

Also, after a few drinks, the silly Taffy will get very worked up when you bring up "welching" on a deal.

[John Drake]

This has got nowt to do with Rugby League anymore.

Continue the discussion in the politics sub forum, if you wish, but not here.

Locked.