The Hallucinating Goose Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Well it's better than nothing I suppose... At least these are just the warm up games to a decent month or so of other internationals with England playing Wales in Cardiff and Scotland in Edinburgh and France in Toulouse and Jamaica in funking Narnia..! We can only hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Gordon Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I would have made every effort to hold some games exactly as they would have been for the RLWC. Cut-price tickets for those with a RLWC ticket already. If Jamaica were due to play Ireland at Headingley on a Friday/Saturday night (I think they were), and 10k tickets had been sold, build on that interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: Presumably there are large ex-pat Jamaican and Scottish communities in Featherstone... Well yes, there's one here. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_57 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Week 1: Warm Ups Wales V England France V Jamaica Ireland V Scotland Weeks 2-3/4: Mini-Series England V France x 3 Scotland V Ireland x 2 Wales V Jamaica x 2 Would be reasonable. If all we get is the 3 games mentioned in the OP it is probably major warning signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 hours ago, dkw said: Or there is very little money available for an international programme and the team 8s doing the best they can with incredibly limited funds and time. Maybe you can fo volunteer your money qnd time to show them how they should do it? If they can't resource it properly then they shouldn't do it IMO. It just massively devalues the international game when things are done half-arsed. And that's the last thing they should be doing with a World Cup next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2blackrooks Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 10 hours ago, welshmagpie said: Looks as if we’re getting the following: Jamaica vs. Scotland (Featherstone) France vs. England (venue TBC) Wales vs. Ireland (venue TBC) Where did you hear this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 9 hours ago, The Daddy said: Is there a reason why Scotland can't play in Scotland? Is RL banned in Scotland? Meetings of more than 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, 2blackrooks said: Where did you hear this from? Twitter (The Bullock Shed) LoveRugbyLeague (The Gossip Page) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Glad England are playing France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just watching the final of The Hundred and thoroughly enjoying it. I know there's a whole other thread on The Hundred and lessons that RL can learn, but it's obvious from this that a significant proportion of the crowd are there for the 'event' as opposed to being die hard fans of either team. If RL's powers-that-be are seriously considering playing Jamaica vs Scotland at Fev, then it perfectly encapsulates why the game is currently in the dire straits that it's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: Just watching the final of The Hundred and thoroughly enjoying it. I know there's a whole other thread on The Hundred and lessons that RL can learn, but it's obvious from this that a significant proportion of the crowd are there for the 'event' as opposed to being die hard fans of either team. If RL's powers-that-be are seriously considering playing Jamaica vs Scotland at Fev, then it perfectly encapsulates why the game is currently in the dire straits that it's in. Where are Equador playing Italy at cricket this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Where are Equador playing Italy at cricket this year ? I don't care. What I care about is what we can do in this country to promote and expand the game of RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: I don't care. What I care about is what we can do in this country to promote and expand the game of RL. The cricket finished a bit ' damp ' in the end Just for the record , where do you suggest they play it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: The cricket finished a bit ' damp ' in the end Just for the record , where do you suggest they play it ? I'm not sure they should play it. If the powers-that-be are going to treat it as an afterthought and provide insufficient resources to create a meaningful event that will be attractive to both spectators and players, then they shouldn't bother. It isn't a case of picking a ground and saying "it would be good there - they've got a train station nearby and should get at least 5k through the gates". They need to do some market research, put a meaningful long term calendar together and put games out to tender to see which towns and cities want to host. Not throw something together at the last minute based off the back of a fag packet. What is the point of these games? Is it to just tick a box to say they've played some? If they're played in uninspiring stadiums with minimal effort going in to the promotion and the wider 'event' side of things, then I fail to see how they're going to prompt the players to make themselves eligible to play, or to make the event attractive to spectators. What good is that going to do ahead of next year's World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: The cricket finished a bit ' damp ' in the end And yet I bet if you asked everyone in the crowd if they enjoyed themselves, the vast majority would say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: And yet I bet if you asked everyone in the crowd if they enjoyed themselves, the vast majority would say yes. Much like the crowd at Leigh tomorrow then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: What I care about is what we can do in this country to promote and expand the game of RL. But you are happy to say negative comments about Featherstone and the local region, who have supporters that could be Scottish or Jamaican. Not forgetting that a current player is a Scottish international. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: Much like the crowd at Leigh tomorrow then What point are you trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just now, Chris Taylor said: But you are happy to say negative comments about Featherstone and the local region, who have supporters that could be Scottish or Jamaican. Not forgetting that a current player is a Scottish international. Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation. As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant. Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: What point are you trying to make? Are you saying that most people who attend RL matches don't enjoy it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation. As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant. Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience? So where do you suggest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: So where do you suggest ? Did you not read my previous answer to this question or did you choose to ignore it? I'll paste it again for you here: 28 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: I'm not sure they should play it. If the powers-that-be are going to treat it as an afterthought and provide insufficient resources to create a meaningful event that will be attractive to both spectators and players, then they shouldn't bother. It isn't a case of picking a ground and saying "it would be good there - they've got a train station nearby and should get at least 5k through the gates". They need to do some market research, put a meaningful long term calendar together and put games out to tender to see which towns and cities want to host. Not throw something together at the last minute based off the back of a fag packet. What is the point of these games? Is it to just tick a box to say they've played some? If they're played in uninspiring stadiums with minimal effort going in to the promotion and the wider 'event' side of things, then I fail to see how they're going to prompt the players to make themselves eligible to play, or to make the event attractive to spectators. What good is that going to do ahead of next year's World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation. As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant. Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience? Ugh, the old chestnut of Featherstone being a tiny village is so boring and tiresome. Maybe the reality of the situation is Featherstone regularly hosts Rugby matches for the community, has the right facilities for this type of fixture and maybe would get a full house - which would look good on TV (if on tv). No idea if it's the best as I don't know what venues are available. I don't think Ashton Goulding, Dale Ferguson, Danny Addy, Callum Mcelland would have any problems playing there. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Are you saying that most people who attend RL matches don't enjoy it ? No. What point were you trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just now, Chris Taylor said: Ugh, the old chestnut of Featherstone being a tiny village is so boring and tiresome. It may be tiresome, but unfortunately it is the reality of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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