This week's disciplinary.

[bobbruce]

Just got off a flight and when I turned my phone back on I got a link to the headline that Knowles had won his second appeal. I turned the sound down because I thought it was going to be one of those ###### take WhatsApps. 

[Tommygilf]

4 hours ago, bobbruce said:

Since Leeds did it last week. 

That was only an appeal against the additional "frivolous" charge. Two separate things.

[JohnM]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

It probably is Fev but when a player is banned I've never seen them appeal twice to try and overturn it, once you cop a ban you  stay banned.

Quite so. Any team that appeals against a ban should be ....oh, hang on a min.....

 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

6 hours ago, jacksy said:

What did Sneyd get for the leg twist on McGuire?

A right good ticking off from his mummy I imagine! 

I don't know, I don't remember. I'm off to work, it's marginally less depressing than this thread. 

[JohnM]

The Bateman situation and now this preposterous turn of events is disturbing. I've previously been fully supportive of the RFLs disciplinary processes and decisions, taking any  criticism as those of partizan fans and conspiracy theoreticians.

This stinks, though and I trust that media can raise awareness of the disquiet expressed by fans.

 

[gingerjon]

5 minutes ago, JohnM said:

This stinks, though and I trust that media can raise awareness of the disquiet expressed by fans.

I was just about to write that a further issue will be how this is covered by the media.

We already know how the clickbait legion will do it - indeed, already are doing it. But who in the rest could actually explain this in a way that is properly helpful, and can you trust Sky to explain it without getting bored and cracking a joke halfway through the sentence to undermine the whole thing?

[Gomersall]

8 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

It would seem the review was based on the concept that the previous panel's evidence was, essentially, flawed and incompetent.

Unbelievably, the MRP Appeal panel concurred.

Maybe the original MRP panel should all resign as they’re obviously not fit for purpose?

[Gomersall]

8 hours ago, UTK said:

I'm not sure why the RFL has felt the need to give neutrals yet another reason to cheer against a Saints 4-peat but there you go.

It won’t just be cheering. Plenty of boos will ring around OT once Sts step on the pitch.

[Gomersall]

7 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Decision making in any disciplinary process, whether that be a court of law or a sports disciplinary or what have you, is based on precedence to ensure everyone is treated the same. 

Then this will now work the other way with everyone expecting to be treated the same way as Knowles and Sts i.e. more than one appeal and Knowles twisting of the arm now being acceptable.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

1 minute ago, Gomersall said:

Then this will now work the other way with everyone expecting to be treated the same way as Knowles and Sts i.e. more than one appeal and Knowles twisting of the arm now being acceptable.

Unfortunately you are right and that is one of the main problems here. A new precedence has been set...... 

[Jughead]

20 minutes ago, JohnM said:

The Bateman situation and now this preposterous turn of events is disturbing. I've previously been fully supportive of the RFLs disciplinary processes and decisions, taking any  criticism as those of partizan fans and conspiracy theoreticians.

This stinks, though and I trust that media can raise awareness of the disquiet expressed by fans.

 

They won’t. They’re too scared of damaging relationships to do that. 

[gingerjon]

3 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

Knowles twisting of the arm now being acceptable.

Leaving everything else aside - this is the message that has been sent nice and clearly.

[Just Browny]

One thing the RFL are competent at is organising tribunals. The Courts Service can hardly arrange a trial less than 2 years ahead but the RFL can get limitless silks behind a desk going frame by frame through a Betamax at a moment's notice.

[Gomersall]

6 hours ago, Josef K said:

I couldn’t have put that better Chris22 as im a bit of a dumbo when it comes to writing stuff out like you have. 

But I too feel very uncomfortable with what’s gone on, and now we will at this moment in time be hated more than Philip Schofield. I hope he doesn’t turn up in a Saints kit at OT that’s all we need. 

Just as long as he doesn’t push to the front of the queues at the turnstiles and the bar.

[Stanley30]

I'm genuinely baffled that the saints fans on their forum believe justice has prevailed. It was horrendous to watch and deliberate, thank god atkin was ok 

[Dave T]

4 hours ago, bobbruce said:

Since Leeds did it last week. 

Leeds appealed against the frivolous appeal verdict.  And that appeal was heard a week later IIRC. They didn't appeal the same verdict. 

[Tommygilf]

20 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

Maybe the original MRP panel should all resign as they’re obviously not fit for purpose?

And the initial appeal panel.

It is worrying that we are at a state like this.

[Dave T]

The telling thing here is that on social media even most Saints fans are embarrassed by this. 

And those buggers have no shame

[Gomersall]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

And the initial appeal panel.

It is worrying that we are at a state like this.

And the ref because he obviously doesn’t understand the law that it’s acceptable to twist a players arm. Maybe Sts should pursue compensation for the 10 minutes Knowles was sin binned for.

[Dave T]

 

[Dave T]

 

 

[Just Browny]

6 minutes ago, Dave T said:

 

Michael Maguire's agent will be phoning around.

[Jughead]

8 minutes ago, Dave T said:

 

 

That still image isn’t exactly telling. That’s simply his arm behind his back, no pressure on the joint or the arm in an unnatural position. Not that one still image proves or disproves anything. 

[Desert Skipper]

New Disciplinary Board member explains ‘full range of movement of arm’ argument:

 

[Jughead]

What time are the findings usually released? That should bring the second wave of commentary.