Desert Skipper Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Presumably, going forward, any punches, high swinging arms or stiff arms that do not actually connect should also go unpunished. Because despite the intent, it did not go beyond the normal range of impact. Edited September 22, 2022 by Desert Skipper 1 “There is perhaps no better a demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world.” Carl Sagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) This is an utter disgrace, RFL completely inept, i really hope Leeds are considering legal action after they way they have been treated this year. And Frivolous appeals. The RFL to save any integrity must uphold the ban. This just stinks of pure corruption. this could have long term damage to the game. no more world cup tickets for me and not even watching tv boycotting the whole event now Edited September 22, 2022 by Live after death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jughead said: That still image isn’t exactly telling. That’s simply his arm behind his back, no pressure on the joint or the arm in an unnatural position. Not that one still image proves or disproves anything. What it does show is the approach to the tackle. Knowles is almost outside of the tackle there, pulling his arm while Roby hangs round his head. We've all seen the video and the level of force used, but the still shows that is not a normal tackle in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 The RFL have gone from one extreme to another when it comes to the disciplinary process this season. Initially we saw a thoroughly justified clampdown, followed by a climbdown because a few journalists and ex players moaned for likes on social media. Now they have completely undermined themselves with the Bateman nonsense and look absolutely ridiculous with the Knowles u-turn. I don't think the process is as broke as some make out. The appeal of the appeal certainly has to go because it isnt needed and turns far too much focus on the disciplinary and just encourages clubs to moan. We have seen that all season. The trouble is a process is only as strong as those implementing it and the RFL have shown time and again to have the backbone of a jellyfish. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Loiner said: It probably is Fev but when a player is banned I've never seen them appeal twice to try and overturn it, once you cop a ban you stay banned. I agree entirely but don't cut yer nose off to spite yer face,Leeds are your team NOT Saints and they aren't the first team to 'get looked after ' and they won't be the last and i include Leeds in that. Shocking decision but what can us mere mortals do ? Carry on supporting our club's because if we stay away it won't help our club's. Good luck on Saturday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Frightful Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 BREAKING NEWS: "Oscar Pistorious is to be released from prison immediately following a successful appeal from St Helens RLFC to have his murder charge overturned". 11 "When I saw the Pistols and The Clash I realised it didn't seem that difficult, they didn't seem like they could play very well either, so the thing was to form a band then work it out. We didn't even know who was going to play what - we passed around all the instruments until we found what we were comfortable with. I wasn't comfortable with any of them so I became the singer." Terry Hall on forming The Specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Wakey Til I Die said: The usual RL farce. Sadly the major worry is that the bias just isn’t a surprise anymore and it’s that obvious it’s would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. Makes you just want to sack the game off and go do something more wholesome with your time. If only we could but we can't give up on OUR teams because other ( certain) teams get looked after, it will never change and iam 100% certain Wakefield, Salford i could go on wouldn't have had the same outcome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 hours ago, yipyee said: Maybe the panel saw it how it actually happened, the Salford player twisted his own arm up his back and trapped in Knowles hand to milk a penalty. Players have been milking penalties all season so glad its finally been spotted and dealt with appropriately, if wilkin had been commentating he would be commending the Salford player on his brilliance. You really need to take your one eye to Specsavers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Damien said: The trouble is a process is only as strong as those implementing it and the RFL have shown time and again to have the backbone of a jellyfish. I will use another fish for the descriptive, A Kipper................ because that is two faced and gutless! Just as the judiciary are in accepting an appeal of an appeal then overturning a decision made twice, they should have had the bottle to say to Saints go and feck off how many times do you need telling, he's banned. Edited September 22, 2022 by Harry Stottle 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Davo5 said: You really need to take your one eye to Specsavers. I think there was some sarcasm in yipyees post Dav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Take the actual incident out of this for a moment the biggest concern here is with this decision the RFL are basically saying, the ref was wrong, the video ref was wrong, the MRP were wrong, and the first appeals judiciary were wrong. Even the most ardent Saints fan must be able to see that the RFL are saying the whole process and the people involved are incompetent, it’s not a good look for the sport. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Jughead said: That still image isn’t exactly telling. That’s simply his arm behind his back, no pressure on the joint or the arm in an unnatural position. Not that one still image proves or disproves anything. For me it's irrelevant how much pressure was applied, grabbing the arm and pulling behind someone's back has nothing to do with a RL tackle. The technique shouldn't be allowed regardless. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: Take the actual incident out of this for a moment the biggest concern here is with this decision the RFL are basically saying, the ref was wrong, the video ref was wrong, the MRP were wrong, and the first appeals judiciary were wrong. Even the most ardent Saints fan must be able to see that the RFL are saying the whole process and the people involved are incompetent, it’s not a good look for the sport. True, it just doesn't add up, I believe the details become available at 9am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I think there was some sarcasm in yipyees post Dav. Just a tad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 The RFL has now set the precedent. You can now try and pull a shoulder out its socket without any consequences. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Wakey Til I Die said: The usual RL farce. Sadly the major worry is that the bias just isn’t a surprise anymore and it’s that obvious it’s would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. Makes you just want to sack the game off and go do something more wholesome with your time. Would a Red Devils player got off with it and were playing in Saturdays final? I seriously doubt it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Stanley30 said: I'm genuinely baffled that the saints fans on their forum believe justice has prevailed. It was horrendous to watch and deliberate, thank god atkin got. What will be the Saints fans reactions if the same thing thing happens to one of their players on Saturday. If i was Rohan Smith i would have my players practising chicken wing tackles knowing they can't be punished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalfordSlim Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, The Future is League said: Would a Red Devils player got off with it and were playing in Saturdays final? I seriously doubt it Would he ######! The RFL are an utter joke (which we already knew) and they need a complete overhaul. Oh and those saying Saints have done nothing wrong by appealing are talking out of their backsides. I have no issue with any club challenging a debatable high tackle etc but challenging a clear chicken wing just says "###### you" to the rest of the sport and completely flies in the face of player welfare. Utterly crass IMO and McManus & co should feel equally ashamed. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I think there was some sarcasm in yipyees post Dav. Fair enough,on holiday so only came on briefly to see the reaction on here& it’s pretty much as I thought,oh well back home tomorrow,I’m sure they’ll be more than a few pages of this thread to wade through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, Damien said: The RFL have gone from one extreme to another when it comes to the disciplinary process this season. Initially we saw a thoroughly justified clampdown, followed by a climbdown because a few journalists and ex players moaned for likes on social media. Now they have completely undermined themselves with the Bateman nonsense and look absolutely ridiculous with the Knowles u-turn. I don't think the process is as broke as some make out. The appeal of the appeal certainly has to go because it isnt needed and turns far too much focus on the disciplinary and just encourages clubs to moan. We have seen that all season. The trouble is a process is only as strong as those implementing it and the RFL have shown time and again to have the backbone of a jellyfish. Hey! We'll have none of that language round here! You might be annoyed at the decision but no need to go around offending the entire jellyfish race!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 There’s no truth in the rumour Saints are demanding the GF is delayed until Alex Walmsley is fit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Has anyone seen the full disciplinary report yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 You know what I just thought? Normal range of impact. The use of the word 'normal' like there is an accepted, everyday technique for pulling a bloke's arm out of its socket? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 So how do we go about forming a breakaway league then? Let's call it the TRFL, the Total Rugby Football League. Who's gonna be in it? Leigh obviously, who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Has anyone seen the full disciplinary report yet. No not really bothered, it would be like reading a script from Only fools and horses. (Insert your favourite comedy programme) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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