RP London Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 4 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: And that is why there are those of us who can speak through experience not just speculation. That is a que for RP to come along to guide us on the right path. As someone who also has experience as an eagles fan and someone who has been involved on the playing and admin front of a few amateur teams oitside the heartlands.. am I not allowed an opinion? With a very active/busy family I don't get to many games.. but I know what would get me to games and therefore surely could also be seen as the target audience.. But that's OK I'll take old men belittling me if it means that the game gets better and more suited for the 21st century Edited April 8 by RP London 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said: If all clubs achieve grade A it will mean that we have 12 clubs that are really well run on and off the pitch. Well chris read the thread and others it's repeated, unless it was removed by admin. Although there's no doubt it will make a difference off the pitch which is what IMG are about it does not guarantee that 12 clubs will be equal on the paddock. First of all it's pure hope and conjecture portrayed as fact and indisputable. Even if true the idea that all the games will be of a certain quality is a bizarre idea that hasn't been achieved anywhere in any sport. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Mr Frisky said: All F1 teams are based in the UK 7 out of 10 F1 teams are largely based in the UK mate, but only 3 fly British flags for racing. 1 hour ago, Mr Frisky said: I think England (UK) and its fans know exactly that sport is a buisness mate, and have been leading the rest of the world for decades. RL not so much - but you were talking about sport in general. I would dispute this. I think the owners of most British sports clubs have known its a business for years, but because of popularity most fans have let that fact pass them by. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: 7 out of 10 F1 teams are largely based in the UK mate, but only 3 fly British flags for racing. We park outside the HQ of Mercedes-Benz F1 when visiting a non league team near my parents. It is never anything other than deeply weird seeing this hi-tec, global thing in a Chiltern village. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 39 minutes ago, Oxford said: Well chris read the thread and others it's repeated, unless it was removed by admin. Although there's no doubt it will make a difference off the pitch which is what IMG are about it does not guarantee that 12 clubs will be equal on the paddock. First of all it's pure hope and conjecture portrayed as fact and indisputable. Even if true the idea that all the games will be of a certain quality is a bizarre idea that hasn't been achieved anywhere in any sport. You are just making stuff up. No one has said that all 12 SL clubs being Cat A would lead to same quality in every game. Liverpool put 7 past Man U a few weeks ago. Even good teams will have bad days and there's nothing wrong with that. It can actually be good entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 36 minutes ago, gingerjon said: We park outside the HQ of Mercedes-Benz F1 when visiting a non league team near my parents. It is never anything other than deeply weird seeing this hi-tec, global thing in a Chiltern village. We went to family in Milton Keynes this year and went on an F1 Factory odyssey tour, including Mercedes. Red Bull was ace with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Oxford said: If there are differing groups within categories then we bought the snake oil. How else would it be Oxy? Do you honestly think that all 'B's would be on an equal footing when the IMG criteria is splint into different scoring catagories? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Chrispmartha said: Who’s said that? If all clubs achieve grade A it will mean that we have 12 clubs that are really well run on and off the pitch. If you believe that will happen, I also think you believe that there is a man on the moon, get with reality Chris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: How else would it be Oxy? Do you honestly think that all 'B's would be on an equal footing when the IMG criteria is splint into different scoring catagories? Just because you believe it so doesn’t make it correct H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, RP London said: Thats not true there will be demarcation in the A categories because they won't stop counting when they reach 15.. also teams will need to know when they are slipping. The difference is its not as important as the B demarcation and therefore people are simply not concentrating on it. It's not one rule for one, one for another. So does acheiving an A excempt a club from relegation no matter how many points they are above 15? The demarcation stops at an A grade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, RP London said: As someone who also has experience as an eagles fan and someone who has been involved on the playing and admin front of a few amateur teams oitside the heartlands.. am I not allowed an opinion? With a very active/busy family I don't get to many games.. but I know what would get me to games and therefore surely could also be seen as the target audience.. But that's OK I'll take old men belittling me if it means that the game gets better and more suited for the 21st century I was not belittling you what so ever, you have firmly stated what your preferance is on this subject and told us on countless occasions that you are a fan of a Championship club, I was just implying that you would come back with some words of wisdom. Never realised that you were so touchy RP, yes I have attained the Old Man Status I hope that you manage to reach the advancing years when you get subjected to abuse for doing so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 12 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Just because you believe it so doesn’t make it correct H. Think about how points are scored Dav, as I said some B's will be close to an A whilst others will be just above a C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: How else would it be Oxy? Do you honestly think that all 'B's would be on an equal footing when the IMG criteria is splint into different scoring catagories? Well now you've jumped somewhere else 'arry, I think you might be confusing me with someone who isn't cynical. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 10 hours ago, gingerjon said: Nope. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 hours ago, Chrispmartha said: Who’s said that? If all clubs achieve grade A it will mean that we have 12 clubs that are really well run on and off the pitch. So ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: If you believe that will happen, I also think you believe that there is a man on the moon, get with reality Chris. Harry you really need to read the thread, It's not what I am saying is going to happen, as I say read the thread and what I'm responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 7 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: I was not belittling you what so ever, you have firmly stated what your preferance is on this subject and told us on countless occasions that you are a fan of a Championship club, I was just implying that you would come back with some words of wisdom. Never realised that you were so touchy RP, yes I have attained the Old Man Status I hope that you manage to reach the advancing years when you get subjected to abuse for doing so. You haven't suffered any abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 13 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: Never realised that you were so touchy RP, yes I have attained the Old Man Status I hope that you manage to reach the advancing years when you get subjected to abuse for doing so. Yeah 'arry but but you asked for it dressing up in that provocative outfit of wellingtons, plaid shirt, patched denim and eyeglasses! Edited April 9 by Oxford 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 6 minutes ago, Oxford said: Yeah 'arry but but you asked for it dressing up in that provocative outfit of wellingtons, plaid shirt, patched denim and eyeglasses! My Easter best Oxy, you should have said hello when you saw me yesterday, I take it you attended? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 16 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: So does acheiving an A excempt a club from relegation no matter how many points they are above 15? The demarcation stops at an A grade. Yes, while ever it is still an A.. but the demarcation, whether we know about it or not, is still there so that the teams know how they are doing and who might lose their A cat soon. It may not mean anything to who sits where the demarcation is still there.. you cannot say it doesn't to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 16 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: I was not belittling you what so ever, you have firmly stated what your preferance is on this subject and told us on countless occasions that you are a fan of a Championship club, I was just implying that you would come back with some words of wisdom. Never realised that you were so touchy RP, yes I have attained the Old Man Status I hope that you manage to reach the advancing years when you get subjected to abuse for doing so. If you didn't mean it as a sarcastic comment I apologise as that's how I took it as others say the same type of thing in "you think you know better" type way. I did put an emoji at the end of the last comment to show it was a bit of a joke, I respect you and Gubrats' opinions and often have a good debate with both of you (agree with each other or not)... one of my greatest wishes is to live to an age where people can accept me being grumpy and cantankerous and just say "old man" it's something I look forward too.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 It is fascinating that some of us see categories as moveable feasts and others see them as ever lasting licences. Is there anyone who sees something different? 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 40 minutes ago, Oxford said: It is fascinating that some of us see categories as moveable feasts and others see them as ever lasting licences. Is there anyone who sees something different? Gradings , not categories, different conatations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Gradings , not categories, different conatations You say tomato and I say tomato 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Sorry if this has been covered before, but I'm not rereading 92 pages, but if in some future season we have a SL of 11 Cat A teams and 1 Cat B, does that mean the Cat B team is doomed before even the first game? No matter where they end in the league they'll be in danger of relegation. Depending of course on who wins the Championship , so they might be okay. Is this right or have I got this wrong ? Edited April 16 by HawkMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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