Match thread: Championship Round 16. Featherstone Rovers v Doncaster. Saturday 20th July 2024.

[Monkeymagic22]

Gaz Gale needs to work on his tackling technique, that’s the second time he’s been pulled up this season. Does another and we will be unlikely to see him again this season.

[Featherstonerovers2000]

20 minutes ago, Monkeymagic22 said:

Gaz Gale needs to work on his tackling technique, that’s the second time he’s been pulled up this season. Does another and we will be unlikely to see him again this season.

I think other players need to grow to 6ft 5 plus so he can tackle them normally

[haskey]

Cheers PH I thought AJW was on DR again,I stand corrected !

[The Phantom Horseman]

4 games for Gaz, plus Hardy's 1-game ban confirmed.

[marklaspalmas]

3 hours ago, Rene_Artois said:

AJ Wallace should be in Dons squad for Saturday. Season long loan from Hull KR

Season long loan??

Don't hold your breath

[Rene_Artois]

35 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

Season long loan??

Don't hold your breath

Don't see why not. Hkr would need a good few backrowers injured. Better to be playing championship than reserves. Any idea why it might not be true? Honest question cos I'm certain you know more than me. Cheers.

[lingaro]

4 games no wonder I'm losing interest in this sport.

[haskey]

The way the game is being run, we could end up with tig and pass.

we lose a class winger for an indiscretion, NOT a deliberate attack to the head.

The world has gone mad. ?

[sentoffagain2]

56 minutes ago, lingaro said:

4 games no wonder I'm losing interest in this sport.

  Some SL players have been up for contact with players after passing or kicking and they have only been fined £250.There should be a distinction about accidental contact and deliberate.

[marklaspalmas]

1 hour ago, Rene_Artois said:

Don't see why not. Hkr would need a good few backrowers injured. Better to be playing championship than reserves. Any idea why it might not be true? Honest question cos I'm certain you know more than me. Cheers.

Yeah, sorry, you missed the obvious joke.

DR, loans, ins and outs at every club on a weekly basis. Reynolds joins Fev for the 3rd time this season. Our other scrum half signed for Swinton this year, will finish it with us. Maybe. Then he'll be at Widnes. Players just come and go. Sign a contract for next year then leave anyway.

Wallace is on his 4th or 5th club this season alone. Good luck with that.

[Rene_Artois]

19 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

Yeah, sorry, you missed the obvious joke.

DR, loans, ins and outs at every club on a weekly basis. Reynolds joins Fev for the 3rd time this season. Our other scrum half signed for Swinton this year, will finish it with us. Maybe. Then he'll be at Widnes. Players just come and go. Sign a contract for next year then leave anyway.

Wallace is on his 4th or 5th club this season alone. Good luck with that.

Sorry for being naive. Only the 2nd player we've loaned this season and no DR so it wasn't obvious. Don't make assumptions. I'd rather they hadn't stated season long in the press release if this is the case. Who are Wallace's other 2 Clubs btw? Whitehaven, Doncaster and I'm guessing Fev?

Edited July 17 by Rene_Artois

[Cas rover]

8 hours ago, sentoffagain2 said:

  Some SL players have been up for contact with players after passing or kicking and they have only been fined £250.There should be a distinction about accidental contact and deliberate.

The lower league players always get bans no matter what the incident. Not sure if the referees report and/or videos of the game are used to decide if they are to be charged. It depends on who you play for !!

[marklaspalmas]

9 hours ago, Rene_Artois said:

Sorry for being naive. Only the 2nd player we've loaned this season and no DR so it wasn't obvious. Don't make assumptions. I'd rather they hadn't stated season long in the press release if this is the case. Who are Wallace's other 2 Clubs btw? Whitehaven, Doncaster and I'm guessing Fev?

What's not obvious? Even if you don't do DR this year, you must be aware of the chaos and confusion it causes to clubs and the Championship as a competition.

Nobody blames the players. But Wallace is just one of dozens of examples of players moving around regularly and having their development impacted. He may be with you for the rest of 2024. Good luck. If he goes really well, he may be recalled or sold to another club. If he goes badly you may not want him and he may end up in League 1.

Btw, in his list of clubs, you missed the actual club he's contracted to play for in 2024.

[Bull Mania]

57 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

What's not obvious? Even if you don't do DR this year, you must be aware of the chaos and confusion it causes to clubs and the Championship as a competition.

Nobody blames the players. But Wallace is just one of dozens of examples of players moving around regularly and having their development impacted. He may be with you for the rest of 2024. Good luck. If he goes really well, he may be recalled or sold to another club. If he goes badly you may not want him and he may end up in League 1.

Btw, in his list of clubs, you missed the actual club he's contracted to play for in 2024.

Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if KR have completely ruined that guy's career. It was a strange move as he wasn't even a regular starter for us. Just stank of an SL club thinking "there's a player that could make it" lets sign him without any sort of plan of how to develop him. DR and these short term 2 week loans are horrendous for young players development. Imagine being in your early 20s and having your places of work Hull, Doncaster, Featherstone and Whitehaven in the space of 6 months. Plus getting to know all those different groups and their players. His head must be scrambled. 

Jack Walker was another one. He signed for us because of his horrific injury record. He was out for 12 weeks with another hamstring injury. He just started to string a few appearances together and look in good form when KR decided to sign him to be a back up fir 6 months. Then to FC, again as aback up.  Since then he's been in and out of both sides and can't even get in ahead of a Hull academy product.  All he needed was a run of games get some confidence and be in a position to be an SL sides number 1 full back. 

DR wants scrapping and loans should be minimum of 4 weeks and there's a limit of hoe many clubs you can play for in a season. If they don't want to send someone out that long then it can pad out the reserves. It's not rocket science

 

[Fevrover]

7 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:

Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if KR have completely ruined that guy's career. It was a strange move as he wasn't even a regular starter for us. Just stank of an SL club thinking "there's a player that could make it" lets sign him without any sort of plan of how to develop him. DR and these short term 2 week loans are horrendous for young players development. Imagine being in your early 20s and having your places of work Hull, Doncaster, Featherstone and Whitehaven in the space of 6 months. Plus getting to know all those different groups and their players. His head must be scrambled. 

Jack Walker was another one. He signed for us because of his horrific injury record. He was out for 12 weeks with another hamstring injury. He just started to string a few appearances together and look in good form when KR decided to sign him to be a back up fir 6 months. Then to FC, again as aback up.  Since then he's been in and out of both sides and can't even get in ahead of a Hull academy product.  All he needed was a run of games get some confidence and be in a position to be an SL sides number 1 full back. 

DR wants scrapping and loans should be minimum of 4 weeks and there's a limit of hoe many clubs you can play for in a season. If they don't want to send someone out that long then it can pad out the reserves. It's not rocket science

 

SL don't do common sense - just what suits them.

[The Phantom Horseman]

15 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said:

Gaz Gale needs to work on his tackling technique, that’s the second time he’s been pulled up this season. Does another and we will be unlikely to see him again this season.

I agree. Some fans are quick to jump into victim mentality mode whenever one of our players gets banned but it's worth familiarising ourselves with the current sentencing guidelines. Any forceful contact with the head means a charge ranging between Grade D and F and an automatic visit to the Tribunal. This is on the back of the well-publicised multiple litigation with over 100 players starting legal action against the RFL because of brain injuries sustained whilst playing the sport. We might not like the new guidelines, but that's where we are and many sports are having to take action because of these looming lawsuits.

We all know Gaz Gale isn't a remotely dirty player, but he clatters people when he tackles them, usually across the chest, and under the current guidelines if you get that wrong and hit the opponent on the head you're looking at a big ban. Was his tackle forceful, yes it was, did he make contact with the head, yes he did (the Whitehaven player failed his head injury assessment and missed last week's game against Toulouse as a result).

That's a Grade D to F offence and his ban at 4 games came down on the lighter side of Grade E. It's the same whether you're a SL player or Championship/League 1 - for instance Liam Watts and Michael McIlorum both received a 4-game ban for similar offences earlier tin the season as did Keighley's Kyle Kesik this week.

 

 

 

[Featherstonerovers2000]

19 man squad released on rugby league website 

aekins

wynne

minikin

reynolds

springer

jones

massey

day

addy

bowes

kamano

Arnold

harris

eden

Gorman

barley

nakubuwai

warren

silk

 

 

 

[The Phantom Horseman]

10 minutes ago, Featherstonerovers2000 said:

19 man squad released on rugby league website 

aekins

wynne

minikin

reynolds

springer

jones

massey

day

addy

bowes

kamano

Arnold

harris

eden

Gorman

barley

nakubuwai

warren

silk

 

 

 

Clearly you were right about Turner. Presumably Gorman to full back then with Aekins continuing at half back. Would think as I mentioned earlier Warren will fill the other back row position. Good to see Jack Arnold back in contention, we are a bit short of bodies at the moment.

[Featherstonerovers2000]

16 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

Clearly you were right about Turner. Presumably Gorman to full back then with Aekins continuing at half back. Would think as I mentioned earlier Warren will fill the other back row position. Good to see Jack Arnold back in contention, we are a bit short of bodies at the moment.

Yeah I agree Gorman fullback 

Eden wynne wings

barley minikin centres

aekins Reynolds halfs

Kamano Massey prop

jones hooker

warren day seconds rows

addy loose

bowes

springer

nakumbwai

arnold all on bench for me 

leaving Harris and silk out 

 

 

[marklaspalmas]

1 hour ago, Featherstonerovers2000 said:

Yeah I agree Gorman fullback 

Eden wynne wings

barley minikin centres

aekins Reynolds halfs

Kamano Massey prop

jones hooker

warren day seconds rows

addy loose

bowes

springer

nakumbwai

arnold all on bench for me 

leaving Harris and silk out 

 

 

All things considered, that's a decent line up.

[fevnut]

fevnut has published ‘Fev v Doncaster: 21 man squads’.

We find it quite difficult to see the potential shape of the teams in the form in which the clubs publish the squads, so we choose to use guesswork based on last week’s teams to set them out in the traditional manner running from fullback to loose forward and then subs.

We also include a chart showing the leading scorers for both teams.

Access the page by clicking on the link below.

https://bit.ly/3Wb0i9n

[fevnut]

fevnut has posted ‘This week’s referee: Fev v Doncaster’ (Championship Round 16)’.

Access the information by clicking on the link below.

https://bit.ly/467Byn7

 

Edited July 18 by fevnut
Correction

[fevnut]

fevnut has posted ‘Past Matches against Doncaster’, an informative listing of all the matches between the two clubs.

You will also find the details of the last match between us, the overall record of results and records in the matches such as highest scores, record winning margins etc.

The results section is divided into league matches, challenge cup games and other competitions such as play-offs, premierships, national league cup, John Player Trophy etc.

Access the charts by clicking on the attachment below.

https://bit.ly/3PSJTUP

[fevnut]

fevnut has posted ‘T’Other Side: Doncaster’, our comprehensive guide to our next opponents.

In it we include their 2024 squad, their stats for this season and the details of their last match.

Other features include a list of their 2024 results, profiles of their coach and captain and a section that takes a look at players who have played for them and played for Fev as well..

Access the page by clicking on the attachment below.

https://bit.ly/3xu4yrY

[Fevrover]

4 hours ago, fevnut said:

fevnut has published ‘Fev v Doncaster: 21 man squads’.

We find it quite difficult to see the potential shape of the teams in the form in which the clubs publish the squads, so we choose to use guesswork based on last week’s teams to set them out in the traditional manner running from fullback to loose forward and then subs.

We also include a chart showing the leading scorers for both teams.

Access the page by clicking on the link below.

https://bit.ly/3Wb0i9n

SEVEN different goal kickers ! Bet no other teams have  used that many  ☺ .