A question we don't wish to ask or probably want the answer

[TerryM]

Are refeeres awarding trys and calling penalties that are clearly incorrect....? What's their motivation and our cost ?

 

 

[HP Beans]

7 hours ago, TerryM said:

Are refeeres awarding trys and calling penalties that are clearly incorrect....? What's their motivation and our cost ?

 

 

Referees are human with one pair of eyes,they will make mistakes and not see everything.

It’s a tough job to do and you will never please everybody,I feel the best refs are the ones that go unnoticed.

[Fevrover]

1 minute ago, HP Beans said:

Referees are human with one pair of eyes,they will make mistakes and not see everything.

It’s a tough job to do and you will never please everybody,I feel the best refs are the ones that go unnoticed.

Trouble is not many do go unnoticed, BUT it's easy to criticise them and it must take some guts to do it with all the flack they get.

[tec]

8 hours ago, TerryM said:

Are refeeres awarding trys and calling penalties that are clearly incorrect....? What's their motivation

Get beat its the refs fault win and who cares. 

 

[Dave W]

The problem for me is what referees fail to see, forward passes being a particular problem recently. That's one area of the game that's been allowed to slip in recent years.

When you hear dozens of people (rather than a lone random) spontaneously shouting FORWARD from vantage points on sides of the ground, all in the same area, you rather suspect it was forward.

[TerryM]

It's when they over rule linesmen for trys in the corner when the linesmen is in a better position to make the call.

I guess the calls even out but its still frustrating when they go against your team.

[Fevrover]

9 minutes ago, TerryM said:

It's when they over rule linesmen for trys in the corner when the linesmen is in a better position to make the call.

I guess the calls even out but its still frustrating when they go against your team.

Touch judges - and most might as well not be there .

[RSN]

5 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

Touch judges - and most might as well not be there .

I think this is the problem. 

I'm guessing due to the shortage of referees the touch judges are very inexperienced and are basically just there to stick their flag up if the ball or someone goes in touch.

Forward passes for a referee are very difficult to spot. 

Edited September 20 by RSN

[Fevrover]

1 minute ago, RSN said:

I think this is the problem. 

I'm guessing due to the shortage of referees the touch judges are very inexperienced and are basically just there to stick their flag up if the ball or someone goes in touch.

Forward passes for a referee are very difficult to spot. 

That's why they should spot them, after all they are stood side ways looking on.

[Jarc]

Got to be up there with one of the most ridiculous threads started on here 

[Neutralfan7]

Who cares? Once they've made a decision that's it? Close this thread

[Dave W]

1 hour ago, RSN said:

I think this is the problem. 

I'm guessing due to the shortage of referees the touch judges are very inexperienced and are basically just there to stick their flag up if the ball or someone goes in touch.

Forward passes for a referee are very difficult to spot. 

I once worked with a bloke who used to be a touch judge in the professional game. 

He said that the degree to which a touch judge can help a referee is very much down to the referee. 

In his day some referees were control freaks and told the touch judges to just stick to watching the whitewash and not 'interfere' with what's happening on the field of play unless consulted. 

"That line is your responsibility. Whatever happens this side of it [meaning the playing area] is mine". 

I don't know to what degree touch judges are allowed to officiate. 

[Left Winger]

21 hours ago, TerryM said:

It's when they over rule linesmen for trys in the corner when the linesmen is in a better position to make the call.

I guess the calls even out but its still frustrating when they go against your team.

Took the defeat well last week i see.

[Neutralfan7]

1 hour ago, Left Winger said:

Took the defeat well last week i see.

Most of us did mate, don't tar us all

[Blind side johnny]

On 20/09/2024 at 11:12, RSN said:

I think this is the problem. 

I'm guessing due to the shortage of referees the touch judges are very inexperienced and are basically just there to stick their flag up if the ball or someone goes in touch.

Forward passes for a referee are very difficult to spot. 

Many people don't realise that touch judges and referees are miked-up nowadays, so the TJ's may well be communicating with the referee much more that is realised. In addition, too many people equate the activities of TJ's with linesmen/assistant referees in soccer. Touch judges have only ever "flagged" for touch infringements or foul play yet the number of times that we hear fans berating them for not flagging for offside is laughable.

If only some fans actually understood the laws of the game as well as the official then there might be less criticism. This, of course, is highly unlikely.

[The Vet]

3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Touch judges have only ever "flagged" for touch infringements or foul play yet the number of times that we hear fans berating them for not flagging for offside is laughable.

If only some fans actually understood the laws of the game as well as the official then there might be less criticism. This, of course, is highly unlikely.

Absolutely 100% correct!!

[Bearman]

The Hurricanes lost to Huslet on Sunday by 2 points including a try right at the end.

Hunslet were given two tries that were never tries and the Hurricanes were denied two that were tried all day long. 
in the first half the touch indicated a try to the Hurricsnes. The ref over ruled him. In the second half and the crucial try to Hunslet the touch judge indicated No Try and again the ref over ruled him..

this was a sudden death play off game and the referee was very much out of his depth on a day when there were experienced referees  without games. We have a netting today with the RFL about it. But we all know it won’t make any difference .

See you all on Sunday COYR

[Jimmy DoNut]

Funny one this, Oldham fan here, and without doubt the best ref we had all this year was a woman!!!!!

Tara Jones the name, also Saints no 9 in the womens game.

 

[JMB]

On 20/09/2024 at 09:15, Dave W said:

The problem for me is what referees fail to see, forward passes being a particular problem recently. That's one area of the game that's been allowed to slip in recent years.

When you hear dozens of people (rather than a lone random) spontaneously shouting FORWARD from vantage points on sides of the ground, all in the same area, you rather suspect it was forward.

That should be the touch judge's job, but sometimes refs ignore them, so they don't bother.