TheDuke Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Has the NCL now started to slowly recover from the transition to summer rugby? for me I think it has. There was an initial dip in player availability but I do think the players are getting used to it i am not sure attendances have faired so well under the transition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 6 hours ago, TheDuke said: Has the NCL now started to slowly recover from the transition to summer rugby? for me I think it has. There was an initial dip in player availability but I do think the players are getting used to it i am not sure attendances have faired so well under the transition though. At our club we have seen a dip in crowds but they’re pretty consistent now, ie not getting any worse. It really doesn’t help that Warrington are playing more Saturday afternoon games - that’s when we really see low crowds at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Crowd wise,it would help in the NCL would stop scheduling all 3 West Cumbrian teams being at home on the same weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I'm not sure why thy cant see the problem, all the 3 clubs have complained about it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, JMB said: I'm not sure why thy cant see the problem, all the 3 clubs have complained about it to them. Trevor Hunt responded to this on Twitter, and said the reason was due to fixture requests made by the clubs prior to the start of the season (ie certain dates at home or away). That seems reasonable. I obviously don’t know whether it’s true or not, but I’ve or no reason not to believe him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Moving to summer 4 years ago has actually boosted our numbers, both player and crowd wise. I gather that's not the trend in some other places but for us it was clear unless we made the jump to NCL (and therefore summer) we would've started a downward spiral as we'd already lost a couple of lads to NCL teams for that reason and since then we've got so many new players come down too. Crowds have increased as well - whether that's down to the higher level of rugby we're playing in the NCL or if it's just that our fans are bit more fair weather friendly i'm not sure, but it's great to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Spidey said: Trevor Hunt responded to this on Twitter, and said the reason was due to fixture requests made by the clubs prior to the start of the season (ie certain dates at home or away). That seems reasonable. I obviously don’t know whether it’s true or not, but I’ve or no reason not to believe him Wasn't aware of that response from Trevor, but still, its hard to believe that there inset around this, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Spidey said: Trevor Hunt responded to this on Twitter, and said the reason was due to fixture requests made by the clubs prior to the start of the season (ie certain dates at home or away). That seems reasonable. I obviously don’t know whether it’s true or not, but I’ve or no reason not to believe him They didn't all request to be at home this weekend or the other occasion this season and I'm pretty sure they all didn't request away fixtures when the 3 clubs were all away either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Davo5 said: They didn't all request to be at home this weekend or the other occasion this season and I'm pretty sure they all didn't request away fixtures when the 3 clubs were all away either. No. But if say 2 are due at home due to the original fixture list and the one away requests a home fixture the they all end up at home. Same for all ending up being away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Sorry Spidey, your explanations still don't represent the amount of times all 3 clubs have been both home and away on the same dates, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, JMB said: Sorry Spidey, your explanations still don't represent the amount of times all 3 clubs have been both home and away on the same dates, Ask Trevor Hubt then. Just throwing possibilities out there that sound logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Moving to summer 4 years ago has actually boosted our numbers, both player and crowd wise. I gather that's not the trend in some other places but for us it was clear unless we made the jump to NCL (and therefore summer) we would've started a downward spiral as we'd already lost a couple of lads to NCL teams for that reason and since then we've got so many new players come down too. Crowds have increased as well - whether that's down to the higher level of rugby we're playing in the NCL or if it's just that our fans are bit more fair weather friendly i'm not sure, but it's great to see. I think the restructuring of the Old Boys was a massive leap forward for you guys and the union of the local juniors plus one or two local pub sides going by the wayside fell in favour, but you've worked hard to take yourselves up a few gears and produce an excellent product. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisholm Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Can only speak from what I have seen, summer crowds are awful and not geting better. On the playing front think we have all accepted that rugby is now Second to stag party's, weddings, holidays,festivals , etc. If your lucky enough to have a winning side with a good mix of ages amongst your squad you will do well. Come Ibiza or magaluf time in summer if you have a young squad your season could well be decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 On 10/05/2018 at 7:55 PM, chisholm said: Can only speak from what I have seen, summer crowds are awful and not geting better. On the playing front think we have all accepted that rugby is now Second to stag party's, weddings, holidays,festivals , etc. If your lucky enough to have a winning side with a good mix of ages amongst your squad you will do well. Come Ibiza or magaluf time in summer if you have a young squad your season could well be decided. Agree Lower attendances, in the main no commitment, I think the teams are younger having to promote juniors to make numbers, NCL Team’s travelling short, this should not happen at this level, lower standards across the game I can back this up after talking to players from Beverley who have just been promoted to NCL 3 saying in terms of standard no where as good as YM Premier. i missed last weeks game as I was away, next weeks due to Magic, I have another weekend away shortly then miss another 2 due to my summer holiday this is why attendances are down and that is not even counting July and August, our A team started in April and finish in July, but trained from November part time sport nowadays I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Defender1 said: Agree Lower attendances, in the main no commitment, I think the teams are younger having to promote juniors to make numbers, NCL Team’s travelling short, this should not happen at this level, lower standards across the game I can back this up after talking to players from Beverley who have just been promoted to NCL 3 saying in terms of standard no where as good as YM Premier. That’s a mix though - the YM Premier has definitely improved in standard, whilst certainly NCL 3 has declined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DoubleD said: That’s a mix though - the YM Premier has definitely improved in standard, whilst certainly NCL 3 has declined It has 70-30 for me but I still batley Boys could be the next club to join NCL 3 and find the standard okay they have a lot of young talented players with a mix of older heads http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Bit like prison food - gets better by the day. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 21 hours ago, Defender1 said: NCL Team’s travelling short, this should not happen at this level, lower standards across the game I can back this up after talking to players from Beverley who have just been promoted to NCL 3 saying in terms of standard no where as good as YM Premier. I watched the recent Beverley-Salford City Roosters Third Division game. Roosters turned up with just 13 players - and one of those was in his fifties! First time I've witnessed that sort of thing in the NCL. No wonder Beverley rate the Yorkshire League a better standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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