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Theoretically shouldn't you stop driving if you can't see? Not that anyone does.

You're not allowed to drive at all if you can't read a number plate 25m away so going out blithely across a junction on a fast road with no proper knowledge of what's coming is careless at best.

Years ago I crossed a junction and had to stop because someone ran out - I had to slow down and a car clipped me. It was my fault because i should have made absolutely sure before making the manouveur, including guessing that the pedistrian was going to run out.


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Apparently the Land Rover was 'armoured', so to get one on it's roof must have taken a fair old crash, and just been mentioned that a new Land Rover has just been delivered to the Duke, to replace the one written off.  Wonder which insurance company he uses ?

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14 minutes ago, tim2 said:

 

Theoretically shouldn't you stop driving if you can't see?

 

Theoretically purely for health n safety reasons I would say , err , yes 

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20 meters.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-eyesight-rules

2017: A mate of mine went for an eye test and the field vision test results were below the threshold, so the optician notified DVLA, who sent him for a further test, which he failed. DVL suspended his licence and it took him year of work with the ophthalmic surgeon before he could get his licence back.

There are indeed a number of conditions that would disqualify someone from driving: https://www.gov.uk/health-conditions-and-driving

There are also insurance issues -  for example if you drive against medical advice. 


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1 hour ago, Jasper said:

Apparently the Land Rover was 'armoured', so to get one on it's roof must have taken a fair old crash, and just been mentioned that a new Land Rover has just been delivered to the Duke, to replace the one written off.  Wonder which insurance company he  uses

Reported as a Land Rover Freelander. These ceased production in December 2014.


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guy martin is nothing on the duke 

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the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but the crows are just as black

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5 minutes ago, Damien said:

The 'dazzled by winter sunshine line' has been mentioned various times on tonight's news. The Highway Code is quite clear on this:

93. Slow down, and if necessary stop, if you are dazzled by bright sunlight.

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/uploads/3/2/9/2/3292309/the-official-highway-code-with-annexes-uk-en-12-04.pdf

 

No hope of stopping on the East Lancs Road during rush hour.  If I had ever done so I would have caused a multi-car pile-up.  Given that I had to get to work and there was no way to avoid driving into the sun, all I could do was drive carefully, squint a lot and hope I wasn't missing anything!  (Every car on the road was in the same situation as me so maybe that is what kept us all relatively safe)

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2 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

No hope of stopping on the East Lancs Road during rush hour.  If I had ever done so I would have caused a multi-car pile-up.  Given that I had to get to work and there was no way to avoid driving into the sun, all I could do was drive carefully, squint a lot and hope I wasn't missing anything!  (Every car on the road was in the same situation as me so maybe that is what kept us all relatively safe)

That may be so, and I often face the same on my commute. It can be a nightmare but it is advisable to wear sunglasses in such situations and to keep your windscreen clean both inside and out. Regardless the Duke was pulling out of a junction out of a road he knew very well.

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maybe he just saw a pheasant or a deer at the other side of the road and grabbed the chance to" take it out" in the name of SPORT


the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but the crows are just as black

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and to be fair , he hasn't been involved in a car crash since 1997


the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but the crows are just as black

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1 hour ago, Saintslass said:

No hope of stopping on the East Lancs Road during rush hour.  If I had ever done so I would have caused a multi-car pile-up.  Given that I had to get to work and there was no way to avoid driving into the sun, all I could do was drive carefully, squint a lot and hope I wasn't missing anything!  (Every car on the road was in the same situation as me so maybe that is what kept us all relatively safe)

I don't suppose sunglasses have made it into Lancs yet?.

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 If we spare a second to stop fawning over that hugely privileged old #### , and actually spare a moment's thought for the nine month old child in the other car. But the nasty old #### was still sent a replacement vehicle in very quick time, almost like the royal family don't give a ...

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

 If we spare a second to stop fawning over that hugely privileged old #### , and actually spare a moment's thought for the nine month old child in the other car. But the nasty old #### was still sent a replacement vehicle in very quick time, almost like the royal family don't give a ...

Yes Kathy Burke's tweet said more of less that with a few extras. I didn't want to embed it as it said a rather naughty word to describe the Duke.

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20 hours ago, Damien said:

That may be so, and I often face the same on my commute. It can be a nightmare but it is advisable to wear sunglasses in such situations and to keep your windscreen clean both inside and out. Regardless the Duke was pulling out of a junction out of a road he knew very well.

Thanks for the advice Dad.

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5 hours ago, Phil said:

 If we spare a second to stop fawning over that hugely privileged old #### , and actually spare a moment's thought for the nine month old child in the other car. But the nasty old #### was still sent a replacement vehicle in very quick time, almost like the royal family don't give a …

Except the thread is about Prince Philip.

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14 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Except the thread is about Prince Philip.

It's a valid point and certainly more relevent to the discussion than you not being able to stop on the East Lancs.

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I hope the two women and the little tot are ok . I’m sure they’re shook up to , they’re more important and should get at least equal attention rather than the totally unbalanced media obsession with everything from Prince Philips perspective. 

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Just now, DavidM said:

I hope the two women and the little tot are ok . I’m sure they’re shook up to , they’re more important and should get at least equal attention rather than the totally unbalanced media obsession with everything from Prince Philips perspective. 

Had it not been Prince Philip, it would get no attention whatsoever.

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1 minute ago, Bob8 said:

Had it not been Prince Philip, it would get no attention whatsoever.

No doubt , but turning it round with it being Prince Phillip he gets all the attention . 

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1 hour ago, JohnM said:

You are right. People are clearly putting the blame on him.

Despite it being very obviously his fault I have seen little blame.

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Well seems Philip is back behind the wheel and driving without a seatbelt. The Queen regularly drives without a seat belt on public roads too but is immune from prosecution. He is not though and has been photographed and observed constantly and presumably with Police Officers present. I wonder why he never seems to get 3 points on his license and a fine.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/19/prince-philip-97-back-driving-without-seatbelt-less-48-hours-crash-8363612/

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29 minutes ago, Damien said:

Despite it being very obviously his fault I have seen little blame.

But we don't yet know that.  The police investigation has still to be completed. 

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18 minutes ago, Damien said:

Well seems Philip is back behind the wheel and driving without a seatbelt. The Queen regularly drives without a seat belt on public roads too but is immune from prosecution. He is not though and has been photographed and observed constantly and presumably with Police Officers present. I wonder why he never seems to get 3 points on his license and a fine.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/19/prince-philip-97-back-driving-without-seatbelt-less-48-hours-crash-8363612/

So the paper claims.  However, one close up photo of him is from 2018 (it says so beneath the photo) and the others are not dated so they could be zoom shots of him driving on private land, which he is free to do without wearing a seatbelt.

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