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6 hours ago, bbfaz said:

Right now, I honestly don't know.  Any suggestion I've ever made to the RFL has been politely ignored, including a plan for the 2018 London & South East Championship that I wrote on Christmas Day.  So all this is just apropos of nothing.

Western:
I think Cardiff are done.  Swindon need to look at whether they're spreading themselves too thin.  I assume Devon will apply but get rejected, though an application from Somerset would probably get both in.  A Midlands club would better fit the geographic footprint but nobody is anywhere near ready.  If they remain at five (or even six), they'd likely retain the current format.

Beyond that, who's vaguely ready for this?  If Devon do get rejected, the West of England seriously need to nut up and let them into their league.

Eastern:
It's still an extended London Premier league and it has operated as such.  I think there was too much mid-season faffing around tbh and formalising the calendar earlier would be good, as would sorting out rules for relief weekends.  The curiosity of the bottom half of this league amused me.  I think Eastern beat Hemel twice, Hemel beat Silverbacks twice but Silverbacks beat Eastern twice.  As for anybody who'd drop out?  Every team has some sort of viability issue, anybody can fall over at any time.  However, Brixton stick out like a sore thumb on facilities.  Given they finished bottom after two Grand Final wins (and one GF loss the season before), maybe they might question their viability, though that would be very sad.

I can't see anybody joining in the East either but that's OK.  Brentwood and St Ives emerged from the pack in East Region but that division needs to re-establish itself.  The London Premier was dominated by reserve teams.  Medway were the only firsts not to finish with a losing record and I've said repeatedly that it would be a mistake to allow a seconds/age group team into the SCL, so that rules out the Skolars U-20s.

There needs to be more work done to get teams into the regional setups.  I say this every year.

What will actually happen?  Well, what's the worst case scenario?  Probably that.

Thanks, Cardiff are a curious one as I keep hearing good noises coming out there, including setting up a women’s team but there doesn’t seem the commitment when union season starts. I’d like to see Devon in there, although realise the distance is a challenge. 

Where do Brixton play out of?

What league do Skolars u20s play in?

Do you think Medway have a chance of stepping up or is it too early?

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2 hours ago, DoubleD said:

Thanks, Cardiff are a curious one as I keep hearing good noises coming out there, including setting up a women’s team but there doesn’t seem the commitment when union season starts. I’d like to see Devon in there, although realise the distance is a challenge. 

Where do Brixton play out of?

What league do Skolars u20s play in?

Do you think Medway have a chance of stepping up or is it too early?

Looking at it, I don't think Merthyr to Bovey Tracey is completely unrealistic, especially compared to the idea of the Welsh clubs travelling to London.  Devon Sharks have proved they can play well with others.  As Saint1 said, Birmingham would fit the travel for Wales/Swindon/Gloucester but would it fit for Devon too?

Brixton play out of Woodmansterne School in Streatham.  The school is a perpetual building site, as it is being expanded from an infants school to a full 4-18 primary/secondary/sixth form school.  They have a tiny portakabin for changing, they use a pub 10 minutes away as a clubhouse and the pitch has drainage issues.  The whole thing is a little bit diminished compared to other clubs and while the quaintness was charming in the Entry League, it comes across as low-rent at this level. I understand they don't have a ton of options and the RFL was apparently prepared to spend money for facilities at the school but that's been put on the back burner.  Hopefully a solution can be found.

Skolars under-20s (bit of a misnomer, they have some over-20s too) are playing in the London Men's League, which is three firsts (Medway, Newham and Elmbridge), three SCL reserves (Wests, Brixton and Chargers) and a semi pro team's amateur development side.  Without the twos, the firsts would have nobody to play.  Problem is, they're not on the level of the better twos.  Medway are an awkward outfit to play but they only won one game against a team above them, which was a walkover against Wests.  Brixton were beating these twos for three seasons.

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On 16/08/2019 at 16:03, bbfaz said:

With hindsight, Hemel going semi-pro is a bit like that Jeff Goldblum line in Jurassic Park.  They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.  Was the ride ultimately worth it?  Would it have worked even if they hadn't removed the provisions to keep League 1 as a development league or did that speed up the inevitable?

Great shout. And the answer is surely 'no'. some good memories of those first couple of League One years, but long term i don't think it has been good for the club.

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2 hours ago, Dr Tim Whatley said:

Great shout. And the answer is surely 'no'. some good memories of those first couple of League One years, but long term i don't think it has been good for the club.

Then again, I don't know how many times we've been on the end of good-natured arm twisting to basically bullying by the RFL so we'd do what they needed from us.  The RFL wanted Hemel Stags to go semi-pro as much as they did.

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38 minutes ago, bbfaz said:

Then again, I don't know how many times we've been on the end of good-natured arm twisting to basically bullying by the RFL so we'd do what they needed from us.  The RFL wanted Hemel Stags to go semi-pro as much as they did.

Oh for sure, I'm saying this with 20:20 hindsight. Some really exciting times when the League One membership (anyone else on here have 'Gold Membership at the club? 😁 ) but once that division was expanded it all went downhill.

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On 20/08/2019 at 17:39, Dr Tim Whatley said:

Oh for sure, I'm saying this with 20:20 hindsight. Some really exciting times when the League One membership (anyone else on here have 'Gold Membership at the club? 😁 ) but once that division was expanded it all went downhill.

I think part of the problem with the game is that there's always something bigger and shinier that attracts the attention.  Toronto came along and suddenly expanding to Hemel comes across as glamorous as expanding to Blackpool.

On the earlier question, what hasn't worked this year has been publicity.  A number of promises were made about publicising the competition, I don't think that's really come off.  Also, situations with dedicated staff (the competition manager disappeared mid-season) and chopping and changing behind the scenes means it's all been dumped on a person who already had too much to do.  Once again, successes in our game seem to come despite the setbacks.

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Final East combined table.

Pos	Team				Pl   W   D   L   GF   GA    GD    Pts
1	Wests Warriors			11   11  0   0   432  140   292   22
2	London Chargers			11   8   1   2   312  156   156   17
3	Hammersmith Hills Hoists	11   6   1   4   350  192   158   13
4	Bedford Tigers			11   5   1   5   225  350  -125   10*
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5	Hemel Stags			12   6   0   6   252  269   -17   12
6	North Herts Crusaders		12   5   0   7   228  354  -126   10
7	Eastern Rhinos			12   4   0   8   268  312   -44    8
8	South London Silverbacks	12   4   1   7   254  324   -70    8*
9	Brixton Bulls			12   1   0   11  200  424  -224    2

* Both deducted one point for non-fulfillment of fixtures

 

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On ‎23‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 22:22, bbfaz said:

I think part of the problem with the game is that there's always something bigger and shinier that attracts the attention.  Toronto came along and suddenly expanding to Hemel comes across as glamorous as expanding to Blackpool.

On the earlier question, what hasn't worked this year has been publicity.  A number of promises were made about publicising the competition, I don't think that's really come off.  Also, situations with dedicated staff (the competition manager disappeared mid-season) and chopping and changing behind the scenes means it's all been dumped on a person who already had too much to do.  Once again, successes in our game seem to come despite the setbacks.

The RFL were offered the services of someone who would have happily volunteered to co-ordinate publicity etc but that person was never emailed/phoned back!  

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On 09/09/2019 at 10:01, RoverBear said:

The RFL were offered the services of someone who would have happily volunteered to co-ordinate publicity etc but that person was never emailed/phoned back!  

I'm not surprised, which is why I am still not sure whether to continue with the game.  It'd be easy to walk away if I had personal animosity with those in the club but I genuinely like the other people on the committee and the lads makes me laugh. I'm not going to list all my gripes again for fear of being branded a moaner.

However, then I look at some other sports.  Some of them can't even get results on their website.  Some can't tell you your local team.  If I am to compare my local amateur RL scene to that of any other sport with a similar number of local amateur teams, or even more, we're not beaten by that many sports.

It's deeply-flawed but others are even more flawed.  It's like some sort of private race to the bottom.

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Keep it going!

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"It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires"  - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933

"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."  - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure"

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh and the finals.

Eastern Rhinos vs. Hemel in the East Div Plate Final

Hammersmith vs. London Chargers in the National Playoff Final

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Hammersmith still the Aussie lads?


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires"  - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933

"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."  - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure"

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 11/09/2019 at 12:34, audois said:

Hammersmith still the Aussie lads?

Yes, Audois.  Hammersmith are Aussies, Wests are primarily Kiwis.

Hammersmith won 16-10 against London Chargers.  In a result sure to please anybody who played them, Hemel beat Eastern 28-16.

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Both games were competitive and played in a good spirit. Shame the crowd was sparse, but to be honest I didn't see that much advertising for the event on any RFL site.

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