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It appears to be Dave Valentine but the shirt number and even the shirt itself confuse matters. 

Back then the forwards shirt numbers didn't correspond with the modern day. 

Did GB play in dark jerseys? 

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I think the caption is maybe wrong. 

Valentine also captained the Other Nationalities who played in France in '52 and' 53. They wore dark shirts. 

Edit: the design of the grandstand looks like the Stade Velodrome. If so, then 1952 vs ON. 

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19 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

I think the caption is maybe wrong. 

Valentine also captained the Other Nationalities who played in France in '52 and' 53. They wore dark shirts. 

Edit: the design of the grandstand looks like the Stade Velodrome. If so, then 1952 vs ON. 

That's what I thought also, I think the captain is Tom McKinney.

Would this seem correct?

Anyone know the referees name?

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29 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

It appears to be Dave Valentine but the shirt number and even the shirt itself confuse matters. 

Back then the forwards shirt numbers didn't correspond with the modern day. 

Did GB play in dark jerseys? 

I checked the 1953 CC FInal programme and the forwards were numbered as today's are.

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7 minutes ago, rlno1 said:

That's what I thought also, I think the captain is Tom McKinney.

Would this seem correct?

Anyone know the referees name?

His blazer badge says he's French.

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When you look at Valentine with the trophy, his hair looks different to the man in the OP's post. I suspect rlno1's post suggesting Tom McKinney might be right.

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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Out of interest, rino1, from which publication does the picture of Pipette and AN Other come?

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2 hours ago, rlno1 said:

That's what I thought also, I think the captain is Tom McKinney.

Would this seem correct?

Anyone know the referees name?

McKinney played in the 1952 game but according to Roger Grimes in his well-researched book Still Crowing the captain that day was Valentine. That said, McKinney was a hooker, so #9 fits. Maybe it is the Salford man.

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48 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

Out of interest, rino1, from which publication does the picture of Pipette and AN Other come?

The title's at the top of the scanned page, so I assume it is this: https://livre.fnac.com/a5251686/Bernard-Pratviel-Immortel-pipette 

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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3 hours ago, rlno1 said:

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Obviously the French captain is Puig Aubert but who is the other captain and team?

 

Other Nationalities or Wales I would guess.

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20 minutes ago, Chronicler of Chiswick said:

Just looked it up in League Publication's book on the WC, and the ref was Cyril Appleton and our captain was Dave Valentine.

The photo is not from the WC.

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34 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

The photo is not from the WC.

But what a legend that Aubert.  Took his nickname for his smoking habits even on the field and once famously took an up and under whilst playing against Wigan in a snowstorm one handed whilst not dropping his Gaulloise.....

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2 hours ago, del capo said:

But what a legend that Aubert.  Took his nickname for his smoking habits even on the field and once famously took an up and under whilst playing against Wigan in a snowstorm one handed whilst not dropping his Gaulloise.....

Also, he switched codes after shinning down a rope of sheets from his bedroom, because his dad was a RU fan who had forbidden him from talking to those horrid, tax-paying League types and locked him up.

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6 hours ago, rlno1 said:

That's what I thought also, I think the captain is Tom McKinney.

Would this seem correct?

Anyone know the referees name?

Tom also captained combined nationalities against france in 54

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france played a combined nations team on 3jan 1954 at lyon.     the combined nations hooker was a   w.richardson and the ref was charlie appleton. the game was to celebrate the 20th anniversary french rugby league

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On 03/05/2020 at 12:57, Gooleboy said:

Other Nationalities or Wales I would guess.

Bon Jour Monsieur Roast Boeuf

Would you like to partake in a little tipple of Ricard and a Gitane before we kick off?

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