Markos Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Currently 3 leagues of 11, 14 and 11 respectively? My vote, however messy for 1-2 years would be to get next season to a 12-12-12 and stick to that for the forseeable. Top 4 in Championship as it stands playoff for promotion to SL and bottom 4 playoff to avoid relegation, fixtures played in Feb/March for a return for all 3 leagues in April Yes that would mean little prep time and likely a quick relegation back down but at least it is a merit system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: So they’ll vote before they’ve decided on the criteria? Actually that wouldn’t surprise me at all. That sounds very similar to the original licencing process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The whole “rugby league is dying”, “rugby league hates expansion” etc mob will look mightily sillier than they already do if one of London or Toulouse get in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: That sounds very similar to the original licencing process Was that what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 If they follow the usual RL thought process they'll probably vote in Ottawa. 1 3 Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Celt said: So almost 10% of voters would like to see a 3rd team from the Greater Wakefield area. Mmm. That will add a lot to the competition, and doubtless help us to attract those elusive big-name sponsors. I’d go further than that, kick Catalans out and get Normanton Knights in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: The whole “rugby league is dying”, “rugby league hates expansion” etc mob will look mightily sillier than they already do if one of London or Toulouse get in. They won’t vote Toulouse in, why pay for 25 Wizzair flights to France when you can let the players drive themselves along the M62 to away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Eddie said: They won’t vote Toulouse in, why pay for 25 Wizzair flights to France when you can let the players drive themselves along the M62 to away games. You know you’re being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggler Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I must say Eddie seems to make the most erudite comments on this topic. They make me smile as well. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbaldnmad Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, Celt said: So almost 10% of voters would like to see a 3rd team from the Greater Wakefield area. Mmm. That will add a lot to the competition, and doubtless help us to attract those elusive big-name sponsors. Having Wigan, Saints and Warrington all in SL is okay, but not the WF 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBranger Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 A well organised sport would have had plans in place. Super League clubs cannot run the game as they are only self interested and unable to plan long term for the greater good of the game. Loop fixtures are a boring joke so the only way is to increase the number of teams in SL. Yes less money per team from Sky but the clubs need to do more to promote themselves and gain fans and sponsorship etc. T.O. ,London and Newcastle in for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, Celt said: So almost 10% of voters would like to see a 3rd team from the Greater Wakefield area. Mmm. That will add a lot to the competition, and doubtless help us to attract those elusive big-name sponsors. Why on earth does it matter where they’re from 1 sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, DEANO said: Why on earth does it matter where they’re from Because of all our clubs are in one tiny area it will reduce the chance of getting sponsorship from national organisations. Instead you’ll end up with Streethouse Newsagents. Though that said if three teams from a tiny area win promotion on the field then so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Why will it reduce the chance of sponsorship 1 sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Eddie said: 70% of people favouring licensing so far. We should just do away with playing matches and have teams winning cups and getting promoted teams based on other criteria, like proof of funds etc. I think you are confusing being in a competition and winning a competition. Licensing/PR is a way to choose who is in. Playing each other in a format pre-set and agreed is the way of awarding the rewards finanicial and trophy/titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, DEANO said: Why will it reduce the chance of sponsorship If you dont understand this then you should study/get involved with how sponsorship works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I always thought if you were good sponsors would get on board. How many football clubs in London don’t have sponsorship sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, yipyee said: I think you are confusing being in a competition and winning a competition. Licensing/PR is a way to choose who is in. Playing each other in a format pre-set and agreed is the way of awarding the rewards finanicial and trophy/titles The objective of winning a league below the top tier is to get promoted though. With licensing you can quite easily winning a league while a team who finishes below them gets promoted instead. It lacks sporting integrity. I know it works in other countries in other sports but they don’t have the same set ups or richness of semi pro and amateur teams that we have. Nobody would ever suggest that the Premier League has licensing instead of P&R. Edited November 2, 2020 by Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Eddie said: Because of all our clubs are in one tiny area it will reduce the chance of getting sponsorship from national organisations. Instead you’ll end up with Streethouse Newsagents. Though that said if three teams from a tiny area win promotion on the field then so be it. Do you have a list of the National clubs cueieng up to join the pro game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, yipyee said: I think you are confusing being in a competition and winning a competition. Licensing/PR is a way to choose who is in. Playing each other in a format pre-set and agreed is the way of awarding the rewards finanicial and trophy/titles That's fine , but I'll be watching the football instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Eddie said: The objective of winning a league below the top tier is to get promoted though. With licensing you can quite easily winning a league while a team who finishes below them gets promoted instead. It lacks sporting integrity. I know it works in other countries in other sports but they don’t have the same set ups or richness of semi pro and amateur teams that we have. Nobody would ever suggest that the Premier League has licensing instead of P&R. Its the way the amateur game is run, you cant get into the national leagues unless you meet the criteria. Regardless of your prefered method (or mine) the difference between deciding who competes at each level is seperate to how the comps are decided Oh and on the premier league, the top clubs in europe are again discussing a closed shop breakaway Edited November 2, 2020 by yipyee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: Do you have a list of the National clubs cueieng up to join the pro game ? Newcastle, London, York, Sheffield. Then there are Toulouse, Ottawa and maybe New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, yipyee said: Its the way the amateur game is run, you cant get into the national leagues unless you meet the criteria. Regardless of your prefered method (or mine) the difference between deciding who competes at each level is seperate to how the comps are decided I doubt any NCL club would actually want to join League One, and I’m sure they could if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteronniegibbs Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Seeing as it's a business case that has been used to decide that TWP are out, it will have to be a business case that another club can prove is good enough in order to have the 11 chairmen let them in. So which club can beat what TWP were coming forward with? Which is unfortunate because who gets to be in the top flight should be decided by sporting endeavour on the pitch, RL is a sport and no fans turn up on match day to cheer on the chairman with the largest wallet 1 Wibble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: That's fine , but I'll be watching the football instead I dont get you, what does this have to do with anything? No one forces you to watch RL either, if you dont like it dont follow/watch it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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