LeagueConvert Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 l have been having a look at the signings so far and thought l would pick a 17 and compare it with what you folks think. l have done a bit of research on some of the players and there are some who can operate in different positions. So here goes 1. Jake Sweeting 2. Andy Gabriel 3. Adam Ryder 4. Ollie Greensmith 5. Davey Dixon 6. Alex Smith 7. Matty Beharrell 8. Owen Harrison 9. Reiss Butterworth 10. Jon Magrin 11. Keenan Tomlinson 12. Michael Knowles 13. Chris Annakin 14. Dom Speakman 15. Lewis Carr 16. Ross Peltier 17. Dale Ferguson The reason for putting Sweeting at Fullback is that he has played there a lot and can add a bit of pace coming into the line much like Flem did last year. Smith has played Hooker and Loose Forward so brings option there too. Butterworth and Speakman provide cover at half and hooker so good there . Plenty of options at prop/second row too. Just my first stab with who we have currently on the books 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 17 hours ago, LeagueConvert said: l have been having a look at the signings so far and thought l would pick a 17 and compare it with what you folks think. l have done a bit of research on some of the players and there are some who can operate in different positions. So here goes 1. Jake Sweeting 2. Andy Gabriel 3. Adam Ryder 4. Ollie Greensmith 5. Davey Dixon 6. Alex Smith 7. Matty Beharrell 8. Owen Harrison 9. Reiss Butterworth 10. Jon Magrin 11. Keenan Tomlinson 12. Michael Knowles 13. Chris Annakin 14. Dom Speakman 15. Lewis Carr 16. Ross Peltier 17. Dale Ferguson The reason for putting Sweeting at Fullback is that he has played there a lot and can add a bit of pace coming into the line much like Flem did last year. Smith has played Hooker and Loose Forward so brings option there too. Butterworth and Speakman provide cover at half and hooker so good there . Plenty of options at prop/second row too. Just my first stab with who we have currently on the books Ain't a clue about many of the new lads so hard to pick anything at the mo. What I do know is that Chris Annakin would never have been a 13 in the good old days...Makes me sad just to think about all those ball handling loose forwards of old. These days it seems you're just another battering ram. Why can't Michael Knowles play there? At least he can pass a ball and hasn't got a bad kicking game. You could put Dom Speakman there too for the same reasons... I think you have to have a fit Jason Walton in any starting line up and am surprised you have no place for Jimmy Beckett. He made a big difference when he played last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeagueConvert Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 I think loose forward is a position you could play several of the current squad in...a bit spoilt for choice there. l guess it depends on the opposition and the game plan. No particular reason for not including Jimmy, just my first stab to prompt discussion 1 hour ago, NickD said: Ain't a clue about many of the new lads so hard to pick anything at the mo. What I do know is that Chris Annakin would never have been a 13 in the good old days...Makes me sad just to think about all those ball handling loose forwards of old. These days it seems you're just another battering ram. Why can't Michael Knowles play there? At least he can pass a ball and hasn't got a bad kicking game. You could put Dom Speakman there too for the same reasons... I think you have to have a fit Jason Walton in any starting line up and am surprised you have no place for Jimmy Beckett. He made a big difference when he played last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham fisher Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 From what I’ve heard you can take Owen Harrison out of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moscow01 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, graham fisher said: From what I’ve heard you can take Owen Harrison out of the team. Injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham fisher Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Moscow01 said: Injury? No, Let’s just wait for the club to announce it,that’s if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, LeagueConvert said: I think loose forward is a position you could play several of the current squad in...a bit spoilt for choice there. l guess it depends on the opposition and the game plan. If the game plan is the same as last year there would be no point playing Knowles or Speakman at 13 but maybe this year we will be modelling ourselves on St Helens so would need someone with some flair........PLEASE...please...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham fisher Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, NickD said: If the game plan is the same as last year there would be no point playing Knowles or Speakman at 13 but maybe this year we will be modelling ourselves on St Helens so would need someone with some flair........PLEASE...please...... Sorry but I’m too old now,the knees aren’t like they used to be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, NickD said: If the game plan is the same as last year there would be no point playing Knowles or Speakman at 13 but maybe this year we will be modelling ourselves on St Helens so would need someone with some flair........PLEASE...please...... Boom you woke up… 2 http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 15 hours ago, NickD said: If the game plan is the same as last year there would be no point playing Knowles or Speakman at 13 but maybe this year we will be modelling ourselves on St Helens so would need someone with some flair........PLEASE...please...... This should be influenced by the playing style of our half backs I would hope. Last year's approach was determined by the players available- you can't play pacy attacking football without pacy players. With reference to your comments about loose forwards, who was the last proper loose forward that played for us and how long ago was that? Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: This should be influenced by the playing style of our half backs I would hope. Last year's approach was determined by the players available- you can't play pacy attacking football without pacy players. With reference to your comments about loose forwards, who was the last proper loose forward that played for us and how long ago was that? Chris Squires…brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said: This should be influenced by the playing style of our half backs I would hope. Last year's approach was determined by the players available- you can't play pacy attacking football without pacy players. With reference to your comments about loose forwards, who was the last proper loose forward that played for us and how long ago was that? Les Holiday maybe Damian Ball 1 http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 hours ago, NickD said: Chris Squires…brilliant. He was a centre Nick, never a loose forward. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Keep The Faith said: Les Holiday maybe Damian Ball I agree. Les was the last one that we had who met the old-fashioned description of a proper ball-handling loose forward. That was 20+ years ago - the game has changed so much since then that the role has become virtually redundant, sadly. My namesake ended up in that position eventually, of course, but that is another story. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Blind side johnny said: He was a centre Nick, never a loose forward. Def was. Sorry BSJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield Ram Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 14 hours ago, NickD said: Def was. Sorry BSJ. I might be shot down for this but I think Chris Squires did play the odd game at 13, but he was def a centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wakefield Ram said: I might be shot down for this but I think Chris Squires did play the odd game at 13, but he was def a centre. Yes, Chris played in a lot of positions for us over the years but centre was his real position. As Nick earlier implied we went for many years without anyone that you could call a loose forward. Nowadays everyone is a second row/centre. Edited November 21, 2021 by Blind side johnny Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DewsburyRams4ever Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 08:16, Blind side johnny said: This should be influenced by the playing style of our half backs I would hope. Last year's approach was determined by the players available- you can't play pacy attacking football without pacy players. With reference to your comments about loose forwards, who was the last proper loose forward that played for us and how long ago was that? Les Holliday, Damien Ball, Glen Coughlan, Paul Delaney, Daniel Frame, Tommy Gallagher, Rob Roberts, Richard Slater, Josh Weeden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, DewsburyRams4ever said: Les Holliday, Damien Ball, Glen Coughlan, Paul Delaney, Daniel Frame, Tommy Gallagher, Rob Roberts, Richard Slater, Josh Weeden You’ve named 3 out of out 13’s the rest were shirt fillers from either Halves or props… 1 http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 hours ago, DewsburyRams4ever said: Les Holliday, Damien Ball, Glen Coughlan, Paul Delaney, Daniel Frame, Tommy Gallagher, Rob Roberts, Richard Slater, Josh Weeden Crikey. Any of them would be welcome now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Keep The Faith said: You’ve named 3 out of out 13’s the rest were shirt fillers from either Halves or props… I hi cares? Everyone on that list would be a better 13 than any we’ve had of late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, NickD said: Who cares? Everyone on that list would be a better 13 than any we’ve had of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Flatter Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) Returning to the topic, my team of 17 would be: 1 Paul Sykes 2 Andy Gabriel 3 Adam Ryder 4 Davey Dixon 5 Lewis Carr 6 Alex Smith 7 Matty Beharrell 8 Jimmy Beckett 9 Reiss Butterworth 10 Chris Annakin 11 Jason Walton 12 Keenen Tomlinson 13 Michael Knowles 14 Dom Speakman 15 Jordan Schofield 16 Dale Ferguson 17 Jon Magrin I would play Sykes as an interim FB as he is an outstanding defender. I think prop is Annakin’s best position and Knowles at LF; he can pass, kick and run. Schofield seemed to get better with more regular selection towards the end of last season and of the new boys not in my team, well I will have to see them play first. If Hall can regain his form shown earlier in the year, I would have to consider him. Edited November 28, 2021 by Crown Flatter 3 Legs, Dews, Legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 hours ago, NickD said: I hi cares? Everyone on that list would be a better 13 than any we’ve had of late. The 13 position died years ago with the hooker one… scrums been non contested made sure of that… be happy it happened 1 http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield Ram Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Think it's looks a stronger lineup than last year and with the new players to add. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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