marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) We move on. Given the state of the squad at the moment, a free weekend is a blessing. Our 30 man squad....... 2 Luke Briscoe 3 Joey Leilua 5 Gareth Gale 9 Connor Jones 11 Brett Ferres 15 John Davies 16 Junior Moors 17 Ben Hellewell 20 Morgan Smith 21 Luke Cooper 29 Johnathon Ford 32 Sam Eseh 4 Craig Hall Not selected 25 Bayley Gill Not selected 8 Craig Kopczak Injured 10 James Lockwood Injured 12 Jesse Sene-Lefao Injured 13 Jack Bussey Injured 18 Josh Hardcastle Injured 26 Adam Cuthberston Injured 27 Ryley Jacks Possibly Injured 28 Mark Kheirallah Possibly Injured 31 Tyla Hepi Possibly Injured 1 Brandon Pickersgill Possibly Injured/Loaned out 19 Callum Field Loaned out 22 Kyle Trout Loaned out 23 Loui McConnell Loaned out 24 Jacob Doyle Loaned out 30 Ben Mathiou Loaned out Edited June 16, 2022 by marklaspalmas Updated https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 To quote Andrew Vause 22nd March {The age of the team is alarming.It will be broken up soon whether promoted or not.}I reckon we have 9 players 32 or over.Who is responsible for letting this happen.Eseh has been a breath of fresh air.He has plenty to learn but has age on his side his body will not be fully developed for another 3 years.Older players pick up more injuries FACT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 37 Adam Cuthberston 36 Brett Ferres 36 James Lockwood 35 Craig Kopczak 35 Junior Moors 34 Craig Hall 32 Jesse Sene-Lefao 32 Mark Kheirallah 32 Johnathon Ford 31 John Davies 31 Matty Wildie 31 Kyle Trout 30 Ben Hellewell 30 Joey Leilua 29 Jack Bussey 29 Josh Hardcastle 29 Ryley Jacks 28 Gareth Gale 28 Luke Briscoe 28 Tyla Hepi 27 Luke Cooper 27 Ben Mathiou 26 Connor Jones 24 Callum Field 24 Brandon Pickersgill 24 Bayley Gill 24 Morgan Smith 22 Loui McConnell 21 Jacob Doyle Don't know Sam Eseh https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 I know Ryley has just turned 30. I think these are early season ages. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, marklaspalmas said: I know Ryley has just turned 30. I think these are early season ages. Thanks for that info as you know i am not always right with stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, marklaspalmas said: Don't know Sam Eseh FROM Wakey on jan 12th 21 Wakefield Trinity are delighted to announce that Academy Sam Eseh Junior signed First Team contract with the Club. Eseh, 17, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Phil Loxton Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 It's an indictment of the lack of young lads coming through the amateur game. Top clubs are now under pressure to sign experience hence they are older. How long can it last though without a reserve system of some kind that we are never going to get soon. Sad state of affairs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, POR said: FROM Wakey on jan 12th 21 Wakefield Trinity are delighted to announce that Academy Sam Eseh Junior signed First Team contract with the Club. Eseh, 17, He's 17?? Jeez he looks handy. I thought he was about 21..... https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, sentoffagain2 said: Thanks for that info as you know i am not always right with stats. No probs. Tbh I don't think age is really an issue unless the player just isn't up to it anymore. All our players over 30 will be on one year contracts. If this year is their last, so be it. Such is the rapid turnover of players, so can sign up a bunch every year, as Leigh have done in 2022. Building for the future is laudable but almost impossible in the Championship. See Harrison, Halton, etc. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 You'll be ok, a week off does wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RogerT said: You'll be ok, a week off does wonders. Could do with a fortnight lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskey Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just a thought= If Hall out of favour. Killer &Bussey injured. Who kicks the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, haskey said: Just a thought= If Hall out of favour. Killer &Bussey injured. Who kicks the goals. Luke Cooper or John Davies...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, haskey said: Just a thought= If Hall out of favour. Killer &Bussey injured. Who kicks the goals. With so many players out injured Hall has to play.He is under contract and getting paid so Mark Campbell should sort it out with Mac.I don't want players coming back before they are fit enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 A few mentions of Kheirallah being injured - have I missed something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, RobLambert said: A few mentions of Kheirallah being injured - have I missed something ? He has been playing on one leg the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 11 hours ago, marklaspalmas said: 37 Adam Cuthberston 36 Brett Ferres 36 James Lockwood 35 Craig Kopczak 35 Junior Moors 34 Craig Hall 32 Jesse Sene-Lefao 32 Mark Kheirallah 32 Johnathon Ford I keep hearing about our Dads Army but I dont really agree. Maybe we could do with a couple of younger NRL props (havent we been saying that all year) but of the older players we have on our books they are a massive part of what we do well..... Of the oldest of the old (above) we have some of the very best at this level. For me its way too early to write Ford off (and if its not working for him at Rovers I'm sure its not an age thing). Kheiralla and Hall are as good as they have ever been. In many cases their ability to do big minutes (Moors / Locky) are exceptional as are most of their injury records. Koppy was outstanding last year and the start of this but looks to have been carrying a knock for a few weeks. Ferres and Cuthbertson - I dont think anyone thought that these 2 would be doing anything more than making up the numbers in case of injuries but Cuthbertson has looked very handy when he's played. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just now, RobLambert said: I keep hearing about our Dads Army but I dont really agree. Maybe we could do with a couple of younger NRL props (havent we been saying that all year) but of the older players we have on our books they are a massive part of what we do well..... Of the oldest of the old (above) we have some of the very best at this level. For me its way too early to write Ford off (and if its not working for him at Rovers I'm sure its not an age thing). Kheiralla and Hall are as good as they have ever been. In many cases their ability to do big minutes (Moors / Locky) are exceptional as are most of their injury records. Koppy was outstanding last year and the start of this but looks to have been carrying a knock for a few weeks. Ferres and Cuthbertson - I dont think anyone thought that these 2 would be doing anything more than making up the numbers in case of injuries but Cuthbertson has looked very handy when he's played. Agree with all that. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, sentoffagain2 said: He has been playing on one leg the last two games. Yep couldnt understand why he carried on against Bradford but seemed to last longer against Leigh before he started hobbling around. I'd assumed it was a dead leg and nothing serious. he did take a late knock but I thought he looked ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, RobLambert said: I keep hearing about our Dads Army but I dont really agree. Maybe we could do with a couple of younger NRL props (havent we been saying that all year) but of the older players we have on our books they are a massive part of what we do well..... Of the oldest of the old (above) we have some of the very best at this level. For me its way too early to write Ford off (and if its not working for him at Rovers I'm sure its not an age thing). Kheiralla and Hall are as good as they have ever been. In many cases their ability to do big minutes (Moors / Locky) are exceptional as are most of their injury records. Koppy was outstanding last year and the start of this but looks to have been carrying a knock for a few weeks. Ferres and Cuthbertson - I dont think anyone thought that these 2 would be doing anything more than making up the numbers in case of injuries but Cuthbertson has looked very handy when he's played. Exactly WHEN he's played,first Chisholm now Hall where's it all going to end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingaro Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Do you think if he'd had a bust up with the club he'd be modelling new merchandise for the summer bash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, RobLambert said: I keep hearing about our Dads Army but I dont really agree. Maybe we could do with a couple of younger NRL props (havent we been saying that all year) but of the older players we have on our books they are a massive part of what we do well..... Of the oldest of the old (above) we have some of the very best at this level. For me its way too early to write Ford off (and if its not working for him at Rovers I'm sure its not an age thing). Kheiralla and Hall are as good as they have ever been. In many cases their ability to do big minutes (Moors / Locky) are exceptional as are most of their injury records. Koppy was outstanding last year and the start of this but looks to have been carrying a knock for a few weeks. Ferres and Cuthbertson - I dont think anyone thought that these 2 would be doing anything more than making up the numbers in case of injuries but Cuthbertson has looked very handy when he's played. Terrific post,loads of good points in that. I'll add that, although it's true that older players overall tend to be more injury prone, we did sign a really big squad to help counteract that. Moreover, you can't really predict who is going to get injured before the event. Cam King and Nu Brown must have been just about the two biggest "red flag" signings in terms of their lengthy injury histories, but I think most of us would describe them as very successful signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, RobLambert said: Yep couldnt understand why he carried on against Bradford but seemed to last longer against Leigh before he started hobbling around. I'd assumed it was a dead leg and nothing serious. he did take a late knock but I thought he looked ok ? For me I think Kheirallah deserves a lot of credit because it looks like he has been playing through the pain, especially on Monday where he continued to battle on, he clearly was nowhere near 100% and you could see him wincing yet still looked a threat at times. I like Pickersgill a lot and hope he has a future with us but Kheirallah is on a different level for me. Really hope he can shake off that knock in the next couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Kheirallah is a terrific player and is involved in our attacking moves.One fault is that he tends to come into the line to defend instead of staying 10m behind and defending deeper.But at the moment our backs do need a bit of help defending so he is probably helping them out.I have nowt against older players but for me 4 over 32's would be enough.When we had a top of Championship team under Powell the age was much lower as he can build a team.At present as an earlier poster has pointed out we do seem to just sign players because the are available not for the future development of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fevnut Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, marklaspalmas said: 37 Adam Cuthberston 36 Brett Ferres 36 James Lockwood 35 Craig Kopczak 35 Junior Moors 34 Craig Hall 32 Jesse Sene-Lefao 32 Mark Kheirallah 32 Johnathon Ford 31 John Davies 31 Matty Wildie 31 Kyle Trout 30 Ben Hellewell 30 Joey Leilua 29 Jack Bussey 29 Josh Hardcastle 29 Ryley Jacks 28 Gareth Gale 28 Luke Briscoe 28 Tyla Hepi 27 Luke Cooper 27 Ben Mathiou 26 Connor Jones 24 Callum Field 24 Brandon Pickersgill 24 Bayley Gill 24 Morgan Smith 22 Loui McConnell 21 Jacob Doyle Don't know Sam Eseh Sam Eseh is 18. 19th birthday in a fortnight. dob: 30/06/2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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