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1. Billy Slater

2. Israel Folau

3. Mal Meninga

4. Greg Inglis

5. Martin Offiah

6. Darren Lockyer

7. Jonathan Thurston

8. Shane Webke

9. Cameron Smith

10. Petro Civoneciva

11. Sam Burgess

12. Brad Thorn

13. Jason Taumololo

 

This is close I think.

Some of these guys are unanimously the best in their position of all time like Smith, Meninga and Slater. Folau is in for his prowess in the air, still unmatched by any other player (he's a reprehensible person though).

Everyone else speaks for themselves.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pulga said:

1. Billy Slater

2. Israel Folau

3. Mal Meninga

4. Greg Inglis

5. Martin Offiah

6. Darren Lockyer

7. Jonathan Thurston

8. Shane Webke

9. Cameron Smith

10. Petro Civoneciva

11. Sam Burgess

12. Brad Thorn

13. Jason Taumololo

 

This is close I think.

Some of these guys are unanimously the best in their position of all time like Smith, Meninga and Slater. Folau is in for his prowess in the air, still unmatched by any other player (he's a reprehensible person though).

Everyone else speaks for themselves.

No, not "unanimously" ... I for one don't agree ! 😉

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2 hours ago, RL does what Sky says said:

No, not "unanimously" ... I for one don't agree ! 😉

I guess everyone has the right to a wrong opinion.

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In my time.

1 Billy Slater

2 Eric Grothe Senior

3 Greg Inglis

4 Mal Meninga

5 Martin Offiah

6 Brett Kenny

7 Andrew Johns

8 Glen Lazarus

9 Cam Smith

10 Kevin Ward

11 Sam Burgess

12 Gavin Miller

13 Ray Price

Honorable mentions to Brad Clyde, Wally Lewis, Peter Sterling, Jason Robinson, Petero Civoniceva, Adrian Morley, Ellery Hanley, Garry Schofield and others.

You only need so many on field Generals in a team and this has plenty of Generals / playmakers.

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22 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

His first ever match in the UK was at Leigh in 82 , we were watching him practicing kicking pre match , thought unusual to see a prop kicking , then ran out with the number 2 on his back 

His first match was against Hull KR in the first match of the tour. I remember it well. Played number 3 with the not much smaller Eric Grothe at 2. Played number 3 against Leigh later in the tour and was 1st choice centre all tour and for the rest of his international career. His hand off on Les Dyl in the 1st test will live long in the memory. 

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1 minute ago, Marty Funkhouser said:

His first match was against Hull KR in the first match of the tour. I remember it well. Played number 3 with the not much smaller Eric Grothe at 2. Played number 3 against Leigh later in the tour and was 1st choice centre all tour and for the rest of his international career. His hand off on Les Dyl in the 1st test will live long in the memory. 

You are a day late , this was pointed out yesterday , where I accepted my memory disfunction , although we are talking about 37 years ago when I basically watched football and went to Hilton Park every other Sunday because the pubs shut at 2 , we didn't have the information back then we had now , and I didn't seek it out in the press 😀

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Can only go back to the 82 kangaroo tour when I started watch RL, Il probably forget some players as well!

1. B Slater

2. E Groth

3. M Meninga

4. G Inglis

5. M Offiah

6. B Kenny

7. J Thurston

8. A Morley

9. C Smith

10. S Burgess

11. S Kearney

12. W Pearce

13. E Hanley

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Some great players here but, if John Kear was coaching, it would still be five drives and a kick.

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Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police

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On 19/10/2019 at 16:23, GeordieSaint said:

From the Players I have seen live:

1. Slater 2. Addo-Carr 3. Meninga 4. Inglis 5. Offiah 6. Lockyer 7. Thurston

8. Webcke  9. C Smith 10. Civoniceva 11. Tallis 12. Gilmeister 13. Clyde

Edited,  but similar to your Team.

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FB    1    Nigel Barker

RW    2    John Marsden

RC    3    Steve Quinn

LC    4    John Gilbert

LW    5    Ken Kellett

SO    6    Alan Banks

SH    7    Terry Hudson (c)

PR    8    Michael Gibbins

HK    9    Raymond Handscombe

PR    10    Steven Hankins

SR    11    David Hobbs

SR    12    Tim Slatter

LF    13    Peter Smith
 

 
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On 19/10/2019 at 17:51, RL does what Sky says said:

Again it down to personal opinions. I don't like today's comedians who swear - but apparently some people think to use such language (or hint at it) is OK.

Yet you have just said you liked Jim Davidson and Bernard Manning - 2 comedians who not only swore a lot a lot of it was blatantly racist.

 

Anyway, on the topic, its too difficult to list I think, mainly because there are a lot of players who would probably qualify but I can't really form an opinion as I haven't seen them play. TBH I'm struggling to narrow it down to 13 from the players I have seen play!

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48 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Yet you have just said you liked Jim Davidson and Bernard Manning - 2 comedians who not only swore a lot a lot of it was blatantly racist.

They may well have sworn when doing a private function (but I never went to one) but did they regularly swear when on tv as much as the modern comedians do ?  I doubt it.

People today might say they were racist but if you had watched them at that time then you would probably have laughed with the many others who did. That was the world then.

Who knows, something what we currently consider OK might not be in another 30 years.  So should we be vilified for it sometime in the future just because we agreed with it at this time ? Do you still despise all today's German people because of what their ancestors did in the 1940s ? NO, it was a different time then.

Regarding the list of players, why can a list only be issued if you have actually seen them play ?  I read about past players and their achievements in order to submit my all-time list as shown earlier in this thread.

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8 minutes ago, RL does what Sky says said:

They may well have sworn when doing a private function (but I never went to one) but did they regularly swear when on tv as much as the modern comedians do ?  I doubt it.

People today might say they were racist but if you had watched them at that time then you would probably have laughed with the many others who did. That was the world then.

Who knows, something what we currently consider OK might not be in another 30 years.  So should we be vilified for it sometime in the future just because we agreed with it at this time ? Do you still despise all today's German people because of what their ancestors did in the 1940s ? NO, it was a different time then.

Regarding the list of players, why can a list only be issued if you have actually seen them play ?  I read about past players and their achievements in order to submit my all-time list as shown earlier in this thread.

What alot of common sense (IMHO)👍

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18 minutes ago, RL does what Sky says said:

They may well have sworn when doing a private function (but I never went to one) but did they regularly swear when on tv as much as the modern comedians do ?  I doubt it.

People today might say they were racist but if you had watched them at that time then you would probably have laughed with the many others who did. That was the world then.

Who knows, something what we currently consider OK might not be in another 30 years.  So should we be vilified for it sometime in the future just because we agreed with it at this time ? Do you still despise all today's German people because of what their ancestors did in the 1940s ? NO, it was a different time then.

Regarding the list of players, why can a list only be issued if you have actually seen them play ?  I read about past players and their achievements in order to submit my all-time list as shown earlier in this thread.

Swearing by anyone was less common if not pretty much not allowed on TV when Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson were in their heyday, if they could have sworn they would have.

I did watch Jim Davdson at the time and he was unfunny and a racist and I didn't laugh, I believe he still works and tours?

A quick look on his website seems he's claiming to be the 'The People's Comedian (whatever that means)' so you can still go and see him if you like.

 

Your German comparison is a bit weird, have you got Brexit fever or something, but anyway...

 

I just stated that I find it difficult to name players who I haven't seen play, you can of course name whoever you like.

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23 minutes ago, RL does what Sky says said:

People today might say they were racist but if you had watched them at that time then you would probably have laughed with the many others who did. That was the world then.

Sorry, but Jim Davidson and Bernard Manning were always recognised as being racist (the latter in particular as Davidson tried to go more mainstream with the Generation Game etc.)

The difference between now and then is that it was OK to be a racist in some comedic circles... not that we didn't know what racism was in the 1980's.

As I have said before, I recognised Bernard Manning as a racist and disgusting human being from the first moment I saw him.

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On 19/10/2019 at 15:24, Dunbar said:

I wouldn't be able to comment on players who finished their careers before I started watching the game (1984), the team below is the best I have seen when they are playing at their absolute best.

1. Darren Lockyer

2. Martin Offiah

3. Mal Meninga

4. Greg Inglis

5. Wendell Sailor

6. Wally Lewis

7. Andrew Johns

8. Kevin Ward

9. Cameron Smith

10. Glen Lazarus

11. Mark Graham

12. Paul Sculthorpe

13. Ellery Hanley

Great side, still don't know if it's the best ever.

I once went to watch Leeds United with Mark Graham's cousin, he insisted on it.

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16 minutes ago, Mister Ting said:

I once went to watch Leeds United with Mark Graham's cousin, he insisted on it.

Mark Graham's cousin insisted or Mark Graham insisted?

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4 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Mark Graham's cousin insisted or Mark Graham insisted?

Mr Graham insisted, a boatbuilder from Te Atatu. I never knew until about 20 years ago that they were cousins.

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So many great players over the years from different eras, Billy Boston was one of the all time greats.

Here's mine 

1. E.T.

2. Brian Bevan

3. Mal Meninga

4. Greg Inglis

5. Martin Offiah

6. Darren Lockyer

7. Jonathan Thurston

8. Kurt Sorenson

9. Ben Elias

10. Paul Harrogan

11. Paul Sironen

12. Gordon Tallis

13. Steve Menzies

 

Had to leave out the likes of Wally Lewis,Peter Sterling, and Phil Ford

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I don’t see how this is definitively possible... here’s my 1-13 of favourite players... and I reckon this team would take some beating too:

1- Jonathan Davies

2- Eric Grothe 

3- Andrew Ettingshausen

4- James Leuluai

5- Martin Offiah

6- Brett Kenny

7- Benin Marshall

8- Paul Anderson

9- James Roby

10- Kurt Sorensen 

11- Wayne Pearce

12- Mike Gregory

13- Wally Lewis

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