langpark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Interesting, this could be our first 'litmus test' case. I am not sure if Wales RL will support this, so it will be interesting to see their reaction to this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 That announcement plus incoming Birmingham announcement is going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Impartial Observer said: I thought I read recently that Wales RL would not sanction any of their teams entering as they were full members of RLEF What basis do Wales RL have to stop them, really, it’s 4 games max and let’s face it it’s not like there’s a high quality Welsh domestic competition. They should be pleased that one of their teams wants to do this and gain exposure for the game there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langpark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: What basis do Wales RL have to stop them, really, it’s 4 games max and let’s face it it’s not like there’s a high quality Welsh domestic competition. They should be pleased that one of their teams wants to do this and gain exposure for the game there. Maybe you should wait and see how it pans out first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Rhonnda have tweeted that they have permission from the Welsh RL to take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 According to a question I asked on twitter Wales RL have aparently said they are free agents and can enter the competition. I'm very surprised at that as it undermines the RLEF and increases the chances of a breakaway league/competition taking place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 So we have teams from: - Belgium. - Ireland. - Hungary. - Czechia. - Spain. - Holland. - Turkey. - Sweden. - Wales. Verona and Birmingham must be announced soon, that’s eleven. Five left to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Schism approaching funded ( ? ) by Yantos White Knight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 We really don't need egos and politics holding the game back in Europe. The RLEF will be essential for referees and continent wide sanctioning, clearly though the EUROXIII guys have some sort of finance and determination to get things moving. I don't find it difficult to believe that the RLEF could get progress bogged down in meetings and factional interests, but also think they still have to be the top arbiter for the game in Europe. The two organisations have to work together. A frustration with the IRL brought about the madness of World Rugby League and has set us back nearly a decade with SportAccord. Bypassing the RLEF (and it seems certain National Governing Bodies) doesn't strike me as a hugely positive step. The strategy, aims and point of this competition remains unclear, which to me doesn't bode well for its success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: We really don't need egos and politics holding the game back in Europe. The RLEF will be essential for referees and continent wide sanctioning, clearly though the EUROXIII guys have some sort of finance and determination to get things moving. I don't find it difficult to believe that the RLEF could get progress bogged down in meetings and factional interests, but also think they still have to be the top arbiter for the game in Europe. The two organisations have to work together. A frustration with the IRL brought about the madness of World Rugby League and has set us back nearly a decade with SportAccord. Bypassing the RLEF (and it seems certain National Governing Bodies) doesn't strike me as a hugely positive step. The strategy, aims and point of this competition remains unclear, which to me doesn't bode well for its success. Happy to wait and see what the RFL and RFEL say about all of this.... they have some long term and embedded people in these projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, del capo said: Happy to wait and see what the RFL and RFEL say about all of this.... they have some long term and embedded people in these projects Me too. I am wary of lack of strategic thinking and planning here - certainly for the announced team in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Me too. I am wary of lack of strategic thinking and planning here - certainly for the announced team in England. What have the RLEF got planned though, people who are frustrated by their lack of action are doing something themselves - good on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, langpark said: Maybe you should wait and see how it pans out first? Come on lad try harder. Anyway good to see the Welsh RL are happy with them entering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Eddie said: What have the RLEF got planned though, people who are frustrated by their lack of action are doing something themselves - good on them. I agree, like I said in my main post, that it wouldn't be surprising to see the RLEF tied down in bureaucracy and politics. That said we're still confused as to the purpose, aims and strategy of this competition - which, as with anything and any project in life, doesn't fill me with much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Eddie said: What have the RLEF got planned though, people who are frustrated by their lack of action are doing something themselves - good on them. So it's become a fight ? Really don't think we need this at this stage of the game ,, Pages ago asked if this was a power struggle / grab for control for the Euro club game ? Massive lack of reaction. at your end ..….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanto Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Eddie said: What have the RLEF got planned though, people who are frustrated by their lack of action are doing something themselves - good on them. Not quite true. How can a guy who has only been on the scene a sort time.. any one hear of him before.. be frustrated. He ain't been around long enough to know what frustrated in RL terms even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Name the White Knight please Yanto so we can all see what he is / can offer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanto Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, del capo said: Name the White Knight please Yanto so we can all see what he is / can offer ... Common knowledge Dean Buchan . The quote "I can fund it myself" is his . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 It's the owner of Valencia Huricanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said: It's the owner of Valencia Huricanes What are they though? Are they the best Spanish club? Are they an amalgamation of the clubs in the traditionally strong Valencia area? Are they effectively a national rep side? Are they just a random spanish club with an ambitious owner? This are legitimate questions over one of the leading clubs and administrators of this competition. It highlights the lack of clarity around the strategy and purpose of this competition that could be its undoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, del capo said: So it's become a fight ? Really don't think we need this at this stage of the game ,, Pages ago asked if this was a power struggle / grab for control for the Euro club game ? Massive lack of reaction. at your end ..….. It doesn't have to become a fight. Its not a power struggle, its just a determination to get on with it. If this thing has legs, then the RLEF should give it every encouragement and support. If it can't support it, (why not?) well get the hell out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: What are they though? Are they the best Spanish club? Are they an amalgamation of the clubs in the traditionally strong Valencia area? Are they effectively a national rep side? Are they just a random spanish club with an ambitious owner? This are legitimate questions over one of the leading clubs and administrators of this competition. It highlights the lack of clarity around the strategy and purpose of this competition that could be its undoing. I agree, all legitimate questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, yanto said: Not quite true. How can a guy who has only been on the scene a sort time.. any one hear of him before.. be frustrated. He ain't been around long enough to know what frustrated in RL terms even means. Why are people having to hang around to get frustrated by dealing with RL? That is the very antithesis of development. If the ''powers that be'' are frustrating fledgling developers they should get out of the way. Help them, give them the advice they deserve, support these innovative moves and quick! Or at least leave them alone. How dare they threaten them with sanctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, yanto said: Common knowledge Dean Buchan . The quote "I can fund it myself" is his . I am scratching my head to work out how this will be funded but hey ho sounds like its going to be fun. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, yanto said: Common knowledge Dean Buchan . The quote "I can fund it myself" is his . Has Dean Buchan the 500k plus to make this happen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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