Bedfordshire Bronco 2,140 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 (edited) Duplicate Edited June 19 by Bedfordshire Bronco Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 2,140 Posted June 19 Author Report Share Posted June 19 Just now, Bedfordshire Bronco said: To win the GF at the bookies I am no betting man but that must be long odds. I'd say nearer 20-1 Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 4,743 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 I wouldn’t back them at 66/1, certainly not 20s. Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 6,631 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 4 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: To win the GF I am no being man but that must be long odds. I'd say nearer 20-1 Thoughts? Don't want to be too unkind but you're aware of their last Cup final appearance aren't you? It's okay getting to the GF but winning it takes a special kind of mentality and if you're not prepared you've almost certainly lost before the kick off. The three teams that have made just one GF appearance have come out the other end all with similar one sided scorelines : 2006 Saints 26 Hull FC 4 2017 Leeds 24 Cas 6 2019 Saints 23 Salford 6 An each way bet might be slightly more attractive if you can get it at around 13/1 or 16/1 but, in spite of their great win last night, I don't think they'll be in the mix tbh. 1 And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming, or the moment of truth in your lies When everything feels like the movies, yeah, you bleed just to know you're alive Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 3,467 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 They certainly shouldn’t be anywhere near 20’s at present. 66 is probably a bit low for my liking at this moment in time, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Setter 1,585 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 15 minutes ago, Old Frightful said: t's okay getting to the GF but winning it takes a special kind of mentality 15 minutes ago, Old Frightful said: 2006 Saints 26 Hull FC 4 2017 Leeds 24 Cas 6 2019 Saints 23 Salford 6 It seems the GF is certainly a different occasion psychologically than the Challenge Cup. The cup inspires upsets and surprise performances, whereas the grand final always feels like a match made for experienced champions. Warrington got within a few points 4 times and still didn't have that special strength to overcome the barrier. I guess the GF is the occasion where you see thew true on-field leaders come to the fore... Tomkins, O'Loughlin, Peacock, McGuire to name just a few have all got that winning mentality that seems to be missing from the leaders of other teams. Link to post Share on other sites
ShropshireBull 883 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 Cant see KR getting to a final tbh. Good result and playoffs would be great for a team that has been stuck near the bottom for a while. But they will probably have to beat two of Wigan, Saints or Catalan just to make a final. Thats a tough ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Liverpool Rover 610 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 Just being in the playoffs will be enough for me after the last few years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DimmestStar 454 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 No one at Rovers is expecting to get to the Grand Final. We finished 11th last year so our current position of 6th is a real positive. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris22 1,562 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 If Hull KR were to finish 5th or 6th, that would be an excellent season. To win the comp, they would likely face a run (at present) of Wigan away, Catalans away, Warrington / Saints in the Grand Final. I cannot see them winning all of those fixtures and 66/1 seems about right to me. Saying that, Hull KR have been playing some wonderful rugby of late and Tony Smith is doing an excellent job. They won't win the competition, but if they make the play offs that will be a huge success. Twitter: @TrylineUK Latest Blog: Rugby League's Road to Nowhere Link to post Share on other sites
my missus 558 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 they will need to improve, wigan were shockingly bad last night i think anyone would admit that. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 2,140 Posted June 19 Author Report Share Posted June 19 4 hours ago, Old Frightful said: Don't want to be too unkind but you're aware of their last Cup final appearance aren't you? It's okay getting to the GF but winning it takes a special kind of mentality and if you're not prepared you've almost certainly lost before the kick off. The three teams that have made just one GF appearance have come out the other end all with similar one sided scorelines : 2006 Saints 26 Hull FC 4 2017 Leeds 24 Cas 6 2019 Saints 23 Salford 6 An each way bet might be slightly more attractive if you can get it at around 13/1 or 16/1 but, in spite of their great win last night, I don't think they'll be in the mix tbh. 66-1 is enormous odds though Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 2,140 Posted June 19 Author Report Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, Cheshire Setter said: It seems the GF is certainly a different occasion psychologically than the Challenge Cup. The cup inspires upsets and surprise performances, whereas the grand final always feels like a match made for experienced champions. Warrington got within a few points 4 times and still didn't have that special strength to overcome the barrier. I guess the GF is the occasion where you see thew true on-field leaders come to the fore... Tomkins, O'Loughlin, Peacock, McGuire to name just a few have all got that winning mentality that seems to be missing from the leaders of other teams. Would /will be great for a new winner Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 3,467 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 18 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: 66-1 is enormous odds though It’s not big enough at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 6,631 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 18 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: 66-1 is enormous odds though To be fair, I think most realistic Rovers fans would admit the odds reflect the chances of them winning it. 1 And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming, or the moment of truth in your lies When everything feels like the movies, yeah, you bleed just to know you're alive Link to post Share on other sites
Wellsy4HullFC 4,570 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 If you put £20 on Rovers at 66-1, you would lose £20. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 2,140 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 9 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: It’s not big enough at all. Maybe though I'm not a betting man Safe to say this thread is coming back big style if they get anywhere near Link to post Share on other sites
Wellsy4HullFC 4,570 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 35 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Maybe though I'm not a betting man Safe to say this thread is coming back big style if they get anywhere near Getting anywhere near would still lose you money. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DimmestStar 454 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 hull fc are 9-1 to win Super League. This means that the bookies think it is 9 times more likely that they will not than they will. Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 4,743 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 49 minutes ago, DimmestStar said: hull fc are 9-1 to win Super League. This means that the bookies think it is 9 times more likely that they will not than they will. 9/1? They should be about 40/1. Link to post Share on other sites
Derwent 2,595 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 21 hours ago, DimmestStar said: hull fc are 9-1 to win Super League. This means that the bookies think it is 9 times more likely that they will not than they will. No it doesn't mean that. Bookies work on a system called the overround, whereby they change the odds to guarantee them a set % profit of the total book. They will push the price out sometimes to attract more money for a certain team and shorten the odds on another team to deter people from backing them, its not necessarily down to probabilities or volume of bets its about preserving the overround. 2 I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 6,631 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 On 20/06/2021 at 19:22, DimmestStar said: hull fc are 9-1 to win Super League. This means that the bookies think it is 9 times more likely that they will not than they will. This thread is about the odds on Hull KR winning the SL GF. Care to explain why you decided to bring Hull FC into it? And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming, or the moment of truth in your lies When everything feels like the movies, yeah, you bleed just to know you're alive Link to post Share on other sites
Szymala 46 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 The very fact that only 4 clubs have ever won the GF - and no new winner since Leeds in 2004 - says that they should be 166/1 at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites
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