Bobby123 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 17 hours ago, Tommygilf said: There has been plenty of very reasonable discussion over why Wakey do not have a whole brand new ground like others have achieved. HOWEVER, there is absolutely valid criticism to be made for parts of the ground, particularly those that the players use, just not being kept up at all. We're not talking millions of pounds here. Even if Wakefield thought they could be moving next month, those dugouts are totally unacceptable to be used right now. Its a cycle that has followed multiple ownership regimes and it is disappointing that it has continued into the present one. Basics, absolute basics, just not being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby123 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 17 hours ago, Tommygilf said: There has been plenty of very reasonable discussion over why Wakey do not have a whole brand new ground like others have achieved. HOWEVER, there is absolutely valid criticism to be made for parts of the ground, particularly those that the players use, just not being kept up at all. We're not talking millions of pounds here. Even if Wakefield thought they could be moving next month, those dugouts are totally unacceptable to be used right now. Its a cycle that has followed multiple ownership regimes and it is disappointing that it has continued into the present one. Basics, absolute basics, just not being done. The financial organisation,commencing in the sixties,was always a topic of conversation. They had a very good following, home and away, organised lotteries and other financial off-shoots and the monies must have been rolling in but as years progressed, the echelons changed, the coffers were slowly drained. It has been a constant struggle ever since. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, dboy said: Really? You're going with this? They don't exist. Full stop. That's it. They never existed. The club did not promise to re-build. The RFL did not require a re-build as a condition of promotion. It's an urban myth. In that case could you please confirm the scenario around the aforementioned game at Barnsley? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 10 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: In that case could you please confirm the scenario around the aforementioned game at Barnsley? I don't understand what you are asking. What do you want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 12 minutes ago, dboy said: I don't understand what you are asking. What do you want to know? What was the reason for switching game (or games) to Oakwell when Wakefield were first promoted to Super League? Did Wakefield not make any assurances about ground improvements when they applied for, and were given, a franchise in 2008 and 2011? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Bobby123 said: The financial organisation,commencing in the sixties,was always a topic of conversation. They had a very good following, home and away, organised lotteries and other financial off-shoots and the monies must have been rolling in but as years progressed, the echelons changed, the coffers were slowly drained. It has been a constant struggle ever since. It has definitely been a story of decline and stagnation since then sadly. Epitomised by nothing else more obviously than Belle Vue itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 10 minutes ago, phiggins said: What was the reason for switching game (or games) to Oakwell when Wakefield were first promoted to Super League? Did Wakefield not make any assurances about ground improvements when they applied for, and were given, a franchise in 2008 and 2011? Ah right. No, they made no promises (nor were they required to), about the ground. They DID say they would aim to play televised games away from BV (the lights weren't up to TV standards), but that never materialised, as they were never picked for home TV games anyway. Lights were subsequently upgraded and they themselves have just been replaced with new lights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef K Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said: In that case could you please confirm the scenario around the aforementioned game at Barnsley? I went to Barnsley when Saints played there against Wakey, i was furious we lost that game. I loved the old stand on the touchline at Oakwell it’s a pity it couldn’t be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 10 minutes ago, Josef K said: I went to Barnsley when Saints played there against Wakey, i was furious we lost that game. I loved the old stand on the touchline at Oakwell it’s a pity it couldn’t be saved. The old stand on the touchline is still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Fevrover said: The old stand on the touchline is still there. Just about. Barnsley closed the stand last season, but probably so they could shift stewards to accommodate more away fans to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 29 minutes ago, phiggins said: Just about. Barnsley closed the stand last season, but probably so they could shift stewards to accommodate more away fans to be honest. That's what they said,but then say say anything. Blamed the council at first and a lot of fans got their season ticket money back,others came into the East stand where i sit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 25/07/2022 at 04:22, Henson Park Old Firm said: First Huddersfield no Saints, maybe clubs are actively trying to get rid of clubs for the deal? Next they will be putting out weakened teams against Toulouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said: Next they will be putting out weakened teams against Toulouse Surely teams won't do that ? It's tantermount to cheating to keep Toulouse in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Last time i went to belle vue, and it’s likely to be the last until the ground is developed, to get into the seated areas you just gave £5 to a bloke who opened a side door, the seats were rusty dropping to bits and if they were in a public park would be knocked down, this was not that long ago either maybe 2014-2015. Never again go there. It makes Wheldon road look like a quint little hotel. When so many clubs are playing in new or redeveloped stadiums in SL and championship, its a disgrace is Belle vue and worry Wakey should have been kicked out years ago, it makes the whole game look bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Live after death said: Last time i went to belle vue, and it’s likely to be the last until the ground is developed, to get into the seated areas you just gave £5 to a bloke who opened a side door, the seats were rusty dropping to bits and if they were in a public park would be knocked down, this was not that long ago either maybe 2014-2015. Never again go there. It makes Wheldon road look like a quint little hotel. When so many clubs are playing in new or redeveloped stadiums in SL and championship, its a disgrace is Belle vue and worry Wakey should have been kicked out years ago, it makes the whole game look bad. You know it's being re-developed right now, at this very moment, don't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dboy said: You know it's being re-developed right now, at this very moment, don't you? They haven’t successfully knocked it down yet! when its built i’l believe it, could be a ling drawn out process like the Shay at Halifax. Edited July 27 by Live after death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 4 minutes ago, Live after death said: They haven’t successfully knocked it down yet! No. Only closed it 2 weeks ago. It's had all services disconnected, perimeter fencing erected, and temporary seating installed. Next job is removal of the asbestos roofing, scheduled to take 2 weeks I believe, then a rip-down demolition can take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, Live after death said: They haven’t successfully knocked it down yet! when its built i’l believe it, could be a ling drawn out process like the Shay at Halifax. So, you understand that the re-development is actually in progress right now, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Mead Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, dboy said: So, you understand that the re-development is actually in progress right now, don't you? 20 years too late pal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, Dallas Mead said: 20 years too late pal Stop crying. It's started, yes? #YeahBut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Mead Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, dboy said: Stop crying. It's started, yes? #YeahBut... Can’t say I’m crying tbh? Just hoping wakey go down and the top level of the sport can move on without this dead weight of a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dallas Mead said: Can’t say I’m crying tbh? Just hoping wakey go down and the top level of the sport can move on without this dead weight of a club And I'm just hoping you're wrong and we can keep you crying about us for another 12 months. The rent-free space in your head is very cosy for us. Edited July 27 by dboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Mead Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, dboy said: And I'm just hoping you're wrong and we can keep you crying about us for another 12 months. The rent-free space in your head is very cosy for us. Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hicks Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 its a work in progress and they recon the first part will be done in 12 months and then they will do the rest so lets just see how it progresses . at least they have started on the ground unlike some other teams that keep promising to make a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 22 minutes ago, paul hicks said: its a work in progress and they recon the first part will be done in 12 months and then they will do the rest so lets just see how it progresses . at least they have started on the ground unlike some other teams that keep promising to make a start What other teams ? I can only think of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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