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10 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Jamaica v Ireland at Headingly is a poor choice of venue - this is exactly the kind of game that was played in Rochdale/Halifax/Workington in 2013 and looked good. 6k at those grounds (and probably more) wouldn't have led to the negative perception.

But actual numbers-wise, it is maybe 1-2k down on what 2013 was delivering for this kind of game.

I know we had the host bidding process but the likes of York with a 8.5k capacity was made for some of the less appealing fixtures. A game could have been taken to places like this, and as you say Rochdale, and while still in the North would have been sold to different fans. I don't think we had to have host towns and cities with so many games each.

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3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I think that is evident, with the best will in the world will the Bronco's ever make headway in an oversubscribed area of professional football, wherever they have layed their hat in the last 40years it is not long before they have moved on, the local populas just doesn't seem to be persuaded.

Ackers, KPP and McMeeken - all with strong London links.

London still punches above its weight.

 

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2 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I think that is evident, with the best will in the world will the Bronco's ever make headway in an oversubscribed area of professional football, wherever they have layed their hat in the last 40years it is not long before they have moved on, the local populas just doesn't seem to be persuaded.

Broncos are done, and I'm a 20 year ST holder at the broncos (apart from last year).  But all we are doing here is trying to sell a couple of one off games and get the local French / Jamacian / Greek communities to buy into those 1 or 2 games

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10 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

There is a lot of concern about some disappointing attendances with the cost of tickets being largely to blame.

There are probably some valid criticisms we could make in relation to the marketing and pricing strategies. But wouldn't it be sensible for the tournament to progress a little further before we all rush too hastily to judgement?

We're talking about what we've seen so far. Warrington was a car crash. Newcastle was amazing, but wasn't the sellout Dutton has been telling us for months was on the cards. Leeds was underwhelming. 

We can judge the tournament so far and still be supportive and hopeful about what is to come. 

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3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I think that is evident, with the best will in the world will the Bronco's ever make headway in an oversubscribed area of professional football, wherever they have layed their hat in the last 40years it is not long before they have moved on, the local populas just doesn't seem to be persuaded.

The Broncos market and the big RL match (or any sporting event) market are completely different things.

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14 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

I'm not that fussed over the attendances and i don't think that many people are these days, despite the 000s of threads...

My concern is that the attendances are a symptom of poor management and it's this that is frustrating. Certainly for me anyway. 

I don't mind the losing (small attendances), if we'd play well, ie set up decent pricing structures, tried to spread it geographically, have a decent website, be able to choose seats etc etc etc, but we're seeing too many management issues over and over again.

 

It's madness that no games played in RU areas....like you say it would be an easy sell 

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4 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I think that is evident, with the best will in the world will the Bronco's ever make headway in an oversubscribed area of professional football, wherever they have layed their hat in the last 40years it is not long before they have moved on, the local populas just doesn't seem to be persuaded.

International RL has been a great sell in London. And we are talking about international RL. RL in London is not all about the Broncos.

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9 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

It's madness that no games played in RU areas....like you say it would be an easy sell 

The Rec in Bath would have been a good choice I think, particularly as there are a couple of League clubs in that area. Maybe Gloucester too. 

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10 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

Were any seats at Donny ever priced £100?

I'm not sure if its always been like this but tickets are now cheap with a set price for anywhere and even premium seats at just £25. I wonder if it was like this a few days ago?:

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3 hours ago, Balmain1969 said:

Going through the remaining fixtures and based on what we've seen so far (on the field), I think these will be the best potential games to draw a crowd

  • Tonga v PNG - 10k
  • Eng v Fra - 25k
  • Leb v Ire - 10k (this will decide QF spot)
  • NZ v Ire - 15k (esp. if Ire beat Leb)
  • Sam v Fra - 13k ((this will decide QF spot, and hopefully France have a good showing against England)

Potential QF

  • Aus v Ire/Leb - 15k (Huddersfield)
  • Eng v PNG - 25k (Wigan)
  • NZ v Fiji - 15k (Hull)
  • Ton v Samoa/Fra - 13k (HJ)

Potential SF

  • Aus v NZ - 40k (Leeds)
  • Eng v Ton - 60k (Emirates)

Potential Final

  • NZ/Aus v Eng - 70k (OT)

TOTAL - 311,000 + 74,464 that have already attended = 385,464

There are a remaining 44 fixtures across mens, womens and wheelchair, they would need to average 4,200 to get a total aggregate of 570k. 

 

 

385,464 total would yield an average of 12,434, lower than any tournament of the past 30 years except for 2000.

I can't see Sky being too impressed by that.

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1 minute ago, Damien said:

I'm not sure if its always been like this but tickets are now cheap with a set price for anywhere and even premium seats at just £25. I wonder if it was like this a few days ago?:

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It was always like this as was originally set up for a family crowd in October half-term (2021).

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4 minutes ago, Damien said:

I'm not sure if its always been like this but tickets are now cheap with a set price for anywhere and even premium seats at just £25. I wonder if it was like this a few days ago?:

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I booked the ticket package for Donny in Cat. A and the ticket lists the individual price as £11. I can’t complain at that.

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1 hour ago, londonrlfan said:

Middlesbrough is a poor choice imo. But when you've forced yourself to only play in a small corner of the country, there won't be many stadiums we could realistically use. 

Agreed.  The fact that Tonga v Cook Islands is being played in a bigger stadium then England's 2 remaining group games tell you all you need to know  about the organisation of this tournament

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