HawkMan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, On the buses said: Kind of Reminds me of jocks shouting for and buying jerseys of teams playing against England in the football World Cup. They have to do that because they never qualify themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, HawkMan said: They have to do that because they never qualify themselves. Exactly. insecure and small time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 55 to go. 2 2 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggFace Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, On the buses said: Don’t see why anyone should celebrate the decline of any sport to be honest. id rather concentrate on making RL better and more successful than cheer on the demise of another sport even if it is our rival. The bigger question to ask is why this decline is happening in both codes of rugby and the alarming rise of the football behemoth that just seems to be getting bigger and bigger year on year. I know I keep harping about it but I do think a combined code net a good deal with either Skyd or TNT. PS check out my next post on Cross Codes in the next few hours or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, EggFace said: I know I keep harping about it but I do think a combined code net a good deal with either Skyd or TNT. PS check out my next post on Cross Codes in the next few hours or so. Playing at being Mr Spock I'll say a combination of League and Union is illogical. If League is the greater game, which it is, a hybrid of the two codes must produce a lesser game. If TGG hasn't swept all before it, why should a lesser hybrid game? For a new hybrid game to be bigger than Union it'll have to maintain many elements of Union, otherwise logically why would Union intelligentsia ( an oxymoron) go for it? This wooly thinking about combining the codes, by League fans, is based on the assumption that the end product would be League but with a bit of Union kept in to keep the dark side happy, but there's no reason they'd go for it. One code might happen eventually but only if the other collapses and is defunct. The best way to achieve that is to push push and push RL to cause Union to wither naturally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N2022 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, dkw said: It looks bad wishing ill on a sport that actively tries to destroy ours at every opportunity? Don't be soft. I don't think your use of the present tense is fair there. Historically, there have been real injustices - in France, armed forces - but I don't believe Union actively think much about League these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, footy_fan_nrl said: Why do you play it if you hate it so much Because I now too slow to play the real thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, On the buses said: The 6 nations and autumn internationals are massive money spinners for union. Might want to check out the RFU's finances though mate They have a very big income but still seem to have no money to spend .....Christ knows how because the massively stripped back grassroots spending and development officers They even brought in Ralph to help with financial oversight.....couldn't make it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 57 minutes ago, N2022 said: I don't think your use of the present tense is fair there. Historically, there have been real injustices - in France, armed forces - but I don't believe Union actively think much about League these days. Go speak to the Greek league lads about that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 47 minutes ago, dkw said: Go speak to the Greek league lads about that. Or ask Sol Mokdad about what happened in the UAE. 3 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 26 minutes ago, Futtocks said: Or ask Sol Mokdad about what happened in the UAE. Absolutely, shocking that. There's also still some messing around by Union authorities in France too. Very naive to believe they don't think much about league anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, dkw said: Absolutely, shocking that. There's also still some messing around by Union authorities in France too. Very naive to believe they don't think much about league anymore. With the internet, it's harder for them to get away with things on the scale of the past. But when there's a chance, you know they'll take it. 1 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtheborder Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, On the buses said: Every time I go back to my home town of Whitehaven and the wider west Cumbrian region I see less and less people wearing RL jerseys and kids playing with rugby balls compared to seeing plenty of Man City, Newcastle and Liverpool jerseys as well as kids playing football. I'd imagine Cumbria in general is affected by not having a top tier RL team, and maybe places like Bradford, Halifax etc. too that are traditional heartlands but don't have an SL team. To be fair it doesn't seem to be a problem in Wigan, St Helens etc. - kids will follow the top teams generally, so I think the biggest thing that could change that is a successful Cumbrian team IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyed8 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, dkw said: Go speak to the Greek league lads about that. And Hussein M'Barki in Morrocco! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Cool Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 10 hours ago, On the buses said: Don’t see why anyone should celebrate the decline of any sport to be honest. id rather concentrate on making RL better and more successful than cheer on the demise of another sport even if it is our rival. The bigger question to ask is why this decline is happening in both codes of rugby and the alarming rise of the football behemoth that just seems to be getting bigger and bigger year on year. I absolutely love the rah rah clubs going bust and the sport struggling. Total joke of a "sport". Edited January 28 by Tre Cool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, overtheborder said: I'd imagine Cumbria in general is affected by not having a top tier RL team, and maybe places like Bradford, Halifax etc. too that are traditional heartlands but don't have an SL team. To be fair it doesn't seem to be a problem in Wigan, St Helens etc. - kids will follow the top teams generally, so I think the biggest thing that could change that is a successful Cumbrian team IMO. Cumbria didn’t have a top flight team during the 90’s apart from 1996 either but the game was still top dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N2022 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Futtocks said: Or ask Sol Mokdad about what happened in the UAE. Interesting and informative cases you've read. I read the articles. Pretty appalling. Seems the meddling does continue in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Tre Cool said: I absolutely love the rah rah clubs going bust and the sport struggling. Total joke of a "sport". Sorry but I couldn’t disagree more as I just can’t love seeing people lose their jobs especially in the background staff like the tea ladies or the office workers or the grounds staff etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N2022 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 11 minutes ago, On the buses said: Sorry but I couldn’t disagree more as I just can’t love seeing people lose their jobs especially in the background staff like the tea ladies or the office workers or the grounds staff etc. Agree with your more human perspective and, whilst people may have various objections to the way some union figures have treated league, to label it a joke sport doesn't make sense. It has a wider profile than league, in terms of international calendar and countries where it is played to any level, and as a spectacle it's a matter of taste. Worst you can say IMO is that some of the play, especially scrum, is slow. Don't think that makes it a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just before we get locked. Yes, there are plenty of decent people in the Union game. But equally there are still some, and the further up you go, there more there are, who would destroy our sport in an instant if they could. And they wouldn't give a flying you know what about our tea ladies, office staff or groundsmen. The difference between the two sports is that one has tried to end the other... and we know which way around that is. 9 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, EggFace said: I know I keep harping about it but I do think a combined code net a good deal with either Skyd or TNT. PS check out my next post on Cross Codes in the next few hours or so. Think that ship sailed a long time ago both in terms of merging the 2 codes and getting a good tv deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 33 minutes ago, N2022 said: Agree with your more human perspective and, whilst people may have various objections to the way some union figures have treated league, to label it a joke sport doesn't make sense. It has a wider profile than league, in terms of international calendar and countries where it is played to any level, and as a spectacle it's a matter of taste. Worst you can say IMO is that some of the play, especially scrum, is slow. Don't think that makes it a joke. Union also has a wider profile than league at the domestic level as well both at professional levels and grassroots levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 20 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Just before we get locked. Yes, there are plenty of decent people in the Union game. But equally there are still some, and the further up you go, there more there are, who would destroy our sport in an instant if they could. And they wouldn't give a flying you know what about our tea ladies, office staff or groundsmen. The difference between the two sports is that one has tried to end the other... and we know which way around that is. Two wrongs and all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, On the buses said: Two wrongs and all that. Which wrong has Rugby League done? 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the buses Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Which wrong has Rugby League done? I’m talking about wishing ill on both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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